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Which one is more logical purchase?

  • M1 Air 16gb, 256

    Votes: 157 74.1%
  • M2 Air 8gb, 256

    Votes: 55 25.9%

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MajorFubar

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We don't know that. Only because Apple did use only one 256 GB chip in the M2 MacBook Pro they don't have to use that exact same configuration in the MacBook Air.
Of course we don't know. But it takes only a tiny modicum of intelligence to make a highly educated guess that Apple aren't going to use 2x128GB NANDs in their absolute cheapest M2 Macbook when they opted to use one 256GB NAND in a more expensive model, considering 2x128GB NANDs are more expensive.
 

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Of course we don't know. But it takes only a tiny modicum of intelligence to make a highly educated guess that Apple aren't going to use 2x128GB NANDs in their absolute cheapest Macbook when they opted to go for one 256GB NAND in a more expensive model, considering 2x128GB NANDs are more expensive to source.
true, but what is stopping Apple from doing the same on their M1 MBA line from now on?
 
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Juuro

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Of course we don't know. But it takes only a tiny modicum of intelligence to make a highly educated guess that Apple aren't going to use 2x128GB NANDs in their absolute cheapest M2 Macbook when they opted to use one 256GB NAND in a more expensive model, considering 2x128GB NANDs are more expensive.
That's the more expensive model, but also probably the most unimportant model in Apples whole lineup. Apple will sell heaps more of the MacBook Air. It is a much more important device for Apple. So it will make a much higher wave if the newer model is slower in some regards than the older model. That's why I still have hope.
That being said, I don't think we can speak in absolutes when there is still a chance they will use two chips. Even if the chance is slim.
 
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MajorFubar

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true, but what is stopping Apple from doing the same on their M1 MBA line from now on?
Very true indeed...but maybe there are additional considerations preventing them from doing that, also considering it's almost now a run-out model, they may have a load of 256GB M1 Air boards already made up. Total guesswork on my part of course, but if history shows the final 256GB M1 MBAs were slower than the first, we'll know why!
 

ian87w

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Yup. No one inflates RAM needs like Macrumors Forums :D
Nobody told the OP to get 32GB of RAM. That's inflating. But 16GB is actually normal for a computer in 2022.
The problem are people who think that light/office usage of computing still the same as they were in the 90s, and telling people to just get 8GB of RAM because that was enough 10 years ago. That's almost as bad as those youtubers who claimed that 8GB of unified RAM was magically equals 16GB RAM on intel machines.
 

MajorFubar

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That's the more expensive model but not the model, but also probably the most unimportant model in Apples whole lineup. Apple will sell heaps more of the MacBook Air. It is a much more important device for Apple. So it will make a much higher wave if the newer model is slower in some regards than the older model. That's why I still have hope.
That being said, I don't think we can speak in absolutes when there is still a chance they will use two chips. Even if the chance is slim.
Seems incredible for me to believe that the 256GB M2 MBA will be configured in such a way that in many real-world scenarios it outperforms the 256GB 13" MBP because the SSDs are faster. But none of us will truly know until next week.
 
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NewUsername

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Bit confused..

Waited over a year for the M2 air, but find it’s quite a bit more expensive- and of course unproven..

And speed wise not a huge bump right?

So if I only have fixed amount to spend I’m starting to think I gotta go back to 2020 and just do 16gb M1 for slightly less - is that logical?

Especially as it sounds like 8gb is limiting if we want to use it for safari/ms office work for say 4+ years right?

What do you all think?
Feels wrong tho for me to go back to consider M1 when been waiting so long with my 2014 mbp….
At the same price point, the M2 is the better choice in every regard except for amount of RAM and SSD speed, but for the latter two, you won’t notice any difference with your usage. So I would definitely recommend the M2 MacBook Air. You’ll also have a good chance of having a longer time of macOS support.

However, the M2 MacBook Air might have supply issues for a while and even if you can get one, it might still be quite a bit more expensive than the 16GB M1. So that would be an argument for the M1.

But why not just get the 8GB M1? You’ll find good deals online and you’ll be able to get it quickly. The 8GB M1 is a great machine and good value for money, though I understand it might feel a bit strange to buy a 2020 laptop in July 2022.
 

eltoslightfoot

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At the same price point, the M2 is the better choice in every regard except for amount of RAM and SSD speed, but for the latter two, you won’t notice any difference with your usage. So I would definitely recommend the M2 MacBook Air. You’ll also have a good chance of having a longer time of macOS support.

However, the M2 MacBook Air might have supply issues for a while and even if you can get one, it might still be quite a bit more expensive than the 16GB M1. So that would be an argument for the M1.

But why not just get the 8GB M1? You’ll find good deals online and you’ll be able to get it quickly. The 8GB M1 is a great machine and good value for money, though I understand it might feel a bit strange to buy a 2020 laptop in July 2022.
I don't get this "longer time of support." The processor is literally less than 20% faster and has the same basis. I bet they end up with the same exact length of support. But do you seriously think the RAM and SSD speed don't matter? I can definitively tell you they absolutely do, having first a M1 MBA 8/256 and then changing it out for an M1 MBA 16/512. It really, really matters.
 

progx

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From early tests of the MacBook Pro 13 inch with the M2, it sounds like it handles swap differently than the M1. There isn’t anyway to know until July 15th when they’re released.

I’d say you can’t go wrong with either MacBook Air model for your use cases. M1 and M2 have differences, but I’m not sure you’d notice them in your daily driving. I’d lean toward the M1, the only suggestion I’d offer is get 512GB of storage for it minimum.
 

Pugly

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It's a weird tradeoff, and in a way it doesn't have much to do with the CPU. The M1 is already a very capable computer and by not giving it 16GB it's sort of limiting it's potential. The M1 is up near the Intel 15/16inch MBP and that computer started at 16GB. But that's only if you're really going to push the CPU.

One of the great things about the M1 being amazing, and the Air being cheap... is that you can put money into these ridiculous upgrade prices... without an overly high overall cost. I upgraded to a 16GB/1TB MBA and was pretty happy to pay for those upgrades... this was exactly the computer I needed at a good price. Such is the way that Apple has trained me to think of a good value... but a year or two earlier I would need to spend over $2000 to get similar specs.

It's really all the other bits that the M2 Air has that's the tradeoff. Is screen/design/magsafe/thinness/camera/speakers important to you? But if you don't care and just want a nice basic computer that'll last a long time, the 16GB M1 is great. It's not like the M1 is a bad computer anymore. It has no glaring weakness and is just not as nice as the M2.

If you are willing to wait, and cost is really the only factor here... you could wait 6 months or so for refurbished Macs to go up. Apple refurb discounts would put the M2 16GB price back to the same M1 16GB price... might be a while though with how weird supply is right now.
 
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progx

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What do you mean by that?
According to Max Tech’s tests, the swapping wasn’t the same between the M2 and M1 version. Could be just the 256GB model, but I’m wondering if they made a slight change to the chipset in regards to memory management.
 

jamesnajera

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So the M3.
No, I don’t think you will have to wait until the M3. It’s already being reported that TSMC will be transitioning to M2 3nm 2nd half of this year. I can imagine the MBA M2 getting a speed bump around Christmas or early next year, and would assume the speed bump is just M2 3nm.
 

johannnn

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I have had the 8GB M1 Air since launch. I don't have any pro apps or games etc, I'm just a casual user. I went with 8GB since I read that the SSD is so damn fast that it doesn't really matter if starts to swap to the SSD.

I was mistaken. The computer can get very slow when I have tons of safari tabs. And it can also get very slow when I do work stuff (Outlook+MS Teams+Word/Excel/Powerpoint).

I will definitely go with 16GB next time, even though it's ridiculous to pay $200 extra for it.

I wanted to love the M2 Air. I loved it when they announced it. I love the looks of it. I love the brighter screen.

But the M2 chip is barely faster lol? And they had to overclock the M2 to be faster than M1 lol? Did all the chip guys depart from Apple? Also, I pray to all kinds of gods that M2 Air won't get that ****** SSD that they put in the M2 MBP.

If they put the fast SSD in the M2 Air I might buy it. I don't really need it, but just because 8GB in my current computer is not enough. I might also just buy a 16GB M1 Air, but if feels weird to go from a 2020 Air to another 2020 Air.
 
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jamesnajera

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I have had the 8GB M1 Air since launch. I don't have any pro apps or games etc, I'm just a casual user. I went with 8GB since I read that the SSD is so damn fast that it doesn't really matter if starts to swap to the SSD.

I was mistaken. The computer can get very slow when I have tons of safari tabs. And it can also get very slow when I do work stuff (Outlook+MS Teams+Word/Excel/Powerpoint).

I will definitely go with 16GB next time, even though it's ridiculous to pay $200 extra for it.

I wanted to love the M2 Air. I loved it when they announced it. I love the looks of it. I love the brighter screen.

But the M2 chip is barely faster lol? And they had to overclock the M2 to be faster than M1 lol? Did all the chip guys depart from Apple? Also, I pray to all kinds of gods that M2 Air won't get that ****** SSD that they put in the M2 MBP.

If they put the fast SSD in the M2 Air I might buy it. I don't really need it, but just because 8GB in my current computer is not enough. I might also just buy a 16GB M1 Air, but if feels weird to go from a 2020 Air to another 2020 Air.
I don’t think Apple lost a lot of their chip guys, I think Covid slowed down their manufacturing goals with TSMC. I believe the M2 was suppose to be 3nm, but Covid and supply chain delayed the 3nm production.
 
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MajorFubar

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No, I don’t think you will have to wait until the M3. It’s already being reported that TSMC will be transitioning to M2 3nm 2nd half of this year. I can imagine the MBA M2 getting a speed bump around Christmas or early next year, and would assume the speed bump is just M2 3nm.
They aren't going to make 5nm and 3nm versions and call it the same name no matter what the rumours say. That would just be utterly confusing, and would utterly devalue the price of V1 M2 computers.
 
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Dnzilla

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But why not just get the 8GB M1? You’ll find good deals online and you’ll be able to get it quickly. The 8GB M1 is a great machine and good value for money, though I understand it might feel a bit strange to buy a 2020 laptop in July 2022.
That’s the issue too, having waited 12 months extra now for a 2020 model😬

With no major price drop since them
 

Dnzilla

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They aren't going to make 5nm and 3nm versions and call it the same name no matter what the rumours say. That would just be utterly confusing, and would utterly devalue the price of V1 M2 computers.
Agree, and they’re always trying to push prices north

The 15 inch mba will be another price bump of significance….
 

Juuro

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No, I don’t think you will have to wait until the M3. It’s already being reported that TSMC will be transitioning to M2 3nm 2nd half of this year. I can imagine the MBA M2 getting a speed bump around Christmas or early next year, and would assume the speed bump is just M2 3nm.
I don't think there will be a "version" of M2 that is made with the 3 nm process. It might happen that the M2 Pro and Max are made with the 3 nm process, but that's already weird because it means the M2 does have little in common with the M2 Pro and M2 Max. But I suppose Apple doesn't care and just puts them in the same (marketing) family.
A M2 with the 3 nm process would be a completely different chip with a new die, that's expensive.
I think the M2 Pro and Max will be made with the 3 nm process. And we will see the M3 much sooner than we saw the M2 after the M1.
That’s the issue too, having waited 12 months extra now for a 2020 model😬

With no major price drop since them
It doesn't matter how long you waited, does it? Just get the model that suits you best. If that is still the 1.5 year old M1 MacBook Air, so be it.
 

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Get ready to fry some eggs on that M2 Air.

Throttling and major heat issues with NO Fan

Why buy something that has already been proven by the M2 MacBook Pro to be a LEMON for something that just works like your M1?
 
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