M1 iMac Crooked Hinge Alignment Issues: How Prevalent Are They?

[Yebubbleman]

Yep. its tiny but its there.

Where was your M1 iMac manufactured?

I looked under the bottom foot of my new M1 iMac and, to my surprise, it was made in Thailand! Anyone else have Thai iMacs? Mine is a launch day Silver 8/8, 16GB, 1T.

forums.macrumors.com

Very interesting! I wonder if there's any correlation here!

 

[sublunar]

Having read about the 24" M1 iMac's crooked hinge misalignment issues, I'm now curious as to how widespread this issue is. For those that bought an M1 iMac, are you affected by the issue? How about those who ordered one since the news of those problems broke out?

I'm asking largely because (a) my mother is in the market for either that or an M1 Mac mini and (b) I am constantly in the position of recommending Mac models to people and if this issue is both widespread AND STILL ongoing, that affects whether or not I recommend this. Incidentally, I don't want to recommend an iMac for my mom if it has those issues. I'd much rather have her get a Mac mini and a 4K LG Ultrafine or some other 4K display at that point.

I’m looking on with interest - I’m not an owner of any M1 Mac yet, but as a Rev A model the iMac stands out to me as something to wait until the tail end of production to let Apple iron out any issues. If it were me buying I’d swerve all of the M1 models and perhaps plump for a Rev B model (M1X or M2).

That said, the iMac 24 is the only one so far I would advise that drastic an approach for - the other M1 Macs look like same case light redesigns so perhaps it might be safe to wait until later in the production life of those models (now is basically fine since most of them were launched last year.

If you were buying an off the shelf SKU - easy to replace - rather than a BTO there should be no reason why you can’t buy one to check out for yourself - if returns are allowed from the retailer you choose.

And on another note - UK Amazon has sold out of iMac 24 models and Apple‘s own store has none coming until late July/August so there seem to be some stock constraints at the moment. I haven’t checked a custom configuration.

The US Apple store is quoting 3-4 weeks for all iMac 24 SKUs - I think the basic SKUs have sold out of their initial stocks So we may be in for a bit of a wait for stuff to arrive from the Far East.

The Mac Mini seems a decent bet at the moment but that has suspected display sleep issues that have been rumbling on in that case design for years. I may be interested in an M1 Mini myself at some point since I have display, keyboard and mouse already and I know my 2012 Mini has the occasional sleep issue from experience.

But by the time I come to a decision I’m hoping the top SKU gets an M1X makeover to make the options really interesting but for the purposes of trialling ARM designs a base SKU M1 mini might be sufficient for replacing an upgraded 2012 i5.

 

[Realityck]

I guess some will wait for the next model, but hey IMHO this 24" model is an ideal pacifier for the long wait to the next M something iMac.

 

[Yebubbleman]

I’m looking on with interest - I’m not an owner of any M1 Mac yet, but as a Rev A model the iMac stands out to me as something to wait until the tail end of production to let Apple iron out any issues. If it were me buying I’d swerve all of the M1 models and perhaps plump for a Rev B model (M1X or M2).

The M1 Air and M1 2-port 13" Pro both seem fairly stable. Most of the previous quirks seemed to be software/firmware related and Apple seems to have finally ironed out most of them in macOS 11.4. The mini seems to have some glitchiness depending on specific accessory configuration. Though, for all I know, that's also been resolved. It's the Macs that have whole new body styles that worry me. That's when you have issues that have nothing to do with the CPU/SoC because you're dealing with an all new interior design. The Air and 2-port Pro are largely similar to their direct Intel counterparts. The mini is a little bit of an exception here as that logic board design IS different. But that doesn't seem to be the direct cause of issues.

That said, the iMac 24 is the only one so far I would advise that drastic an approach for - the other M1 Macs look like same case light redesigns so perhaps it might be safe to wait until later in the production life of those models (now is basically fine since most of them were launched last year.

Exactly!

If you were buying an off the shelf SKU - easy to replace - rather than a BTO there should be no reason why you can’t buy one to check out for yourself - if returns are allowed from the retailer you choose.

The BTOs are easy to return too, at least when you're dealing with Apple. I just don't like the idea of having to buy and return multiple iMacs especially when they're not MY iMacs.

And on another note - UK Amazon has sold out of iMac 24 models and Apple‘s own store has none coming until late July/August so there seem to be some stock constraints at the moment. I haven’t checked a custom configuration.

The US Apple store is quoting 3-4 weeks for all iMac 24 SKUs - I think the basic SKUs have sold out of their initial stocks So we may be in for a bit of a wait for stuff to arrive from the Far East.

Hopefully Apple is using this as an opportunity to investigate and correct the hinge issues.

The Mac Mini seems a decent bet at the moment but that has suspected display sleep issues that have been rumbling on in that case design for years. I may be interested in an M1 Mini myself at some point since I have display, keyboard and mouse already and I know my 2012 Mini has the occasional sleep issue from experience.

But by the time I come to a decision I’m hoping the top SKU gets an M1X makeover to make the options really interesting but for the purposes of trialling ARM designs a base SKU M1 mini might be sufficient for replacing an upgraded 2012 i5.

I've never heard of design specific display sleep issues with that body style before. Interesting. I've only heard of issues with that for the M1 mini, but it doesn't seem to be universally applicable; some monitors have that problem and others don't. At least, from what I've heard. I may not be fully up on those issues.

I guess some will wait for the next model, but hey IMHO this 24" model is an ideal pacifier for the long wait to the next M something iMac.

It'd honestly be ideal (at least the 4-port/8 GPU Core version) were it possible to guarantee no crooked hinge.

 

[Realityck]

It'd honestly be ideal (at least the 4-port/8 GPU Core version) were it possible to guarantee no crooked hinge.

I walked into a Apple store yesterday, took it home, it's dead even. That was 8/8 16GB 1TB in stock. I thought about it slightly, it turned out to be a big nothing IMHO.

 

[sublunar]

I walked into a Apple store yesterday, took it home, it's dead even. That was 8/8 16GB 1TB in stock. I thought about it slightly, it turned out to be a big nothing IMHO.

Didn’t know Apple Stores stocked anything other than basic SKUs, I’ve seen third party retailers with upgraded models but useful to know.

 

[Realityck]

Didn’t know Apple Stores stocked anything other than basic SKUs, I’ve seen third party retailers with upgraded models but useful to know.

Blue and Silver $1699 models with 16 GB/1TB options is the 4th standard config. You'll see the check local stores with that config.

 

[sublunar]

The M1 Air and M1 2-port 13" Pro both seem fairly stable. Most of the previous quirks seemed to be software/firmware related and Apple seems to have finally ironed out most of them in macOS 11.4. The mini seems to have some glitchiness depending on specific accessory configuration. Though, for all I know, that's also been resolved. It's the Macs that have whole new body styles that worry me. That's when you have issues that have nothing to do with the CPU/SoC because you're dealing with an all new interior design. The Air and 2-port Pro are largely similar to their direct Intel counterparts. The mini is a little bit of an exception here as that logic board design IS different. But that doesn't seem to be the direct cause of issues.

If the top SKU Mac mini ends up being the kind of redesign that has been mooted by John Prosser - splitting the current Mac Mini range into two distinct models - that would be a first unless Apple are going to replace the existing design altogether and refresh the current M1 mini too. It would be a shame as reports suggest that the M1 (due to the excess thermal headroom available) is arguably now the quietest Mac with a fan under load.

Removing the all aluminium case ought to eliminate the USB3/WiFi/Bluetooth issues that have been stated but making the case even smaller - despite the rumoured polycarbonate top reducing interference - will be interesting and I’ll be checking out what the early adopters say.

This is largely the reason why I’m following the current M1 mini with interest - it would be typical Apple to take the opportunity to make the mini case smaller just because the next CPU in it doesn’t need to be as big to soak up the thermal output of an ARM SoC. But I guess the co-location guys have to be on board if the rumours are true - and it doesn’t turn out to be an AppleTV Pro.

Of if Apple are in fact looking to make a Mac Pro Mini in a bigger case going forward in 2022 and THAT is what the co-location guys are looking at.

Hopefully Apple is using this as an opportunity to investigate and correct the hinge issues.

I would imagine they would look at manufacturing tolerances and try to reduce errors in due course. As with car manufacture over the course of 4-5 model iterations they should be able to iron out any early manufacturing flaws. I am more concerned with shipping delays being caused by the global chip shortage which is likely to last well into next year. Apple will have forecast demand and ordered accordingly so may not be as affected as many companies (such as GPU manufacturers) but it does strike me that one reason they may have finished production on the 12 mini (aside from the theorised lack of demand) could be that they need the A14 CPU to go into more lucrative 12 models due to increased demand on that front.

I've never heard of design specific display sleep issues with that body style before. Interesting. I've only heard of issues with that for the M1 mini, but it doesn't seem to be universally applicable; some monitors have that problem and others don't. At least, from what I've heard. I may not be fully up on those issues.

There’s long running threads in the Mini forum about that. I don’t daily drive my 2012 mini so the issue hasn’t been clear and present to me but I have noticed when I used to use it more often than I do now that when I let it sleep sometimes the display doesn’t wake up when I come back to it And I end up restarting it. I’ve not enough incidents to declare my 2012 and issue but there’s been reports of that sort of thing (and snow on display from the HDMI port) since the 2011 design.

I assumed it might be fixed with the move to the M1 chipset but there’s continuing reports from that too - most recent comments I have seen is aimed at the HDMI/DP version in use.

 

[trip1ex]

I can debate forever in my passing time, because I don't have to surrender and be without my computer. Incidentally, how many iMacs would you buy and return before you became sick of wasting your time? I'll debate for weeks if I don't have to go through that kind of nonsense. Especially since in-store returns still require a degree of planning (to my knowledge, you still need to make appointments for it).

Also, I have no idea where you get the ridiculous notion that I'm trying to spread false user data. I'm trying to see how many people do or don't have this issue. I'm only debating those that feel the need to criticize my doing so. As such, I'm only debating with you for this reason.

lol. Just walk into the store and grab an iMac. Make sure it isn't crooked before you leave if you believe this fantastical scenario that Apple has stocked their stores full with crooked iMacs. Quit spreading FUD. Hell you can go into the Apple store and look at the ~8 iMacs on display for signs of crookedness. I can tell you they all look purty. The one at BB looked purty. The one at Costco looked purty as well.



btw FUD isn't False User Data. lol. IT's Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. You didn't even encounter this problem and your spreading the FUD based an anecdotal report on the internet of a problem with a mass market product.

Newsflash: There are always going to be customers who have a problem with their mass market product. Some won't even share their problems on the internet.

 

[reclusive46]

I just got the 24" 8C-GPU/16GB/1GB model.
I measured a few times and I get about 1-2mm off.
Should I return it?

Yeah 1-2mm is definitely within manufacturing tolerances and I doubt it would be noticeable at all.

 

[za9ra22]

Post removed. No point at all.

 

[Yebubbleman]

lol. Just walk into the store and grab an iMac. Make sure it isn't crooked before you leave if you believe this fantastical scenario that Apple has stocked their stores full with crooked iMacs. Quit spreading FUD. Hell you can go into the Apple store and look at the ~8 iMacs on display for signs of crookedness. I can tell you they all look purty. The one at BB looked purty. The one at Costco looked purty as well.

If they sold models with the RAM and storage that I wanted to buy, I'd do that. Your strategy fails when you want a CTO model.

btw FUD isn't False User Data. lol. IT's Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. You didn't even encounter this problem and your spreading the FUD based an anecdotal report on the internet of a problem with a mass market product.

Actually, I'm basing it on these articles:

Some M1 iMac Models Shipping With Crooked Mountings

Some M1 iMacs appear to have a manufacturing defect that causes the display to be mounted on the stand in a way that's not perfectly aligned,...

www.macrumors.com

Some M1 iMac models appear to sit off-center due to manufacturing flaw | AppleInsider

Some M1 iMac buyers are reporting an apparent issue with the way that the device is mounted to its stand, causing some iMacs to sit slightly crooked when on a flat surface.

appleinsider.com

Customers complain about M1 iMac with crooked stand - 9to5Mac

Customers are now complaining about iMac M1 units that were shipped with a "crooked" stand. It's unclear whether this is a widespread defect.

9to5mac.com

Does Your M1 iMac Have a Crooked Display? You May Not Be Alone.

This isn't exactly breaking news, but it also hasn't been blowing up the interwebs either. Some users are noticing something unusual with their new

eshop.macsales.com

Surprise M1 iMac design flaw spotted – is yours affected?

Some users aren't happy.

www.creativebloq.com

Some Apple M1 iMacs have crooked displays, and now you can't unsee it

Some Apple M1 iMac owners are reporting that their new computer has a crooked display. And once you see it...

www.androidauthority.com

There was a crooked man who bought a crooked M1 iMac, and we presume they lived together in a little crooked house

It's Crookedgate! Folks report receiving whizzy Apple gear with slightly wonky displays

www.theregister.com

Some M1 iMacs are arriving to customers with a crooked display

Multiple reports from new customers indicate that the mounting for some of the new M1 iMacs is crooked.

www.imore.com

M1 iMac owners complain that it's 'crooked'

Multiple reports of slightly tilted display on Reddit, YouTube and Apple's own support forums.

www.macworld.co.uk

Some M1 iMac Units are Shipping With Tilted Display and Crooked Mountings

Apple's new M1 iMac is tilted for some users with a misaligned display or a crooked mounting and it is not fixable by the userrs.

wccftech.com

Some brand new M1 iMacs are shipping with crooked displays

Apple last April unveiled its biggest iMac update in years. Aside from featuring the company’s brand new M1 processor, the new entry-level iMac boasts a …

bgr.com

Some brand new M1 iMacs are shipping with crooked displays

Apple last April unveiled its biggest iMac update in years. Aside from featuring the company’s brand new M1 processor, the new entry-level iMac boasts a larger 24-inch display, 2x faster GPU performance, a 1080p FaceTime HD camera, better speakers, and of course, a variety of color options. On...

www.yahoo.com

Sure sounds like an anecdotal report!

Newsflash: There are always going to be customers who have a problem with their mass market product. Some won't even share their problems on the internet.

You're only further validating my reasoning for trying to determine just how widespread this actually is.

 

[Realityck]

If they sold models with the RAM and storage that I wanted to buy, I'd do that. Your strategy fails when you want a CTO model.

Actually, I'm basing it on these articles:

Spoiler: Same news - discussed in multiple articles

Some M1 iMac Models Shipping With Crooked Mountings

Some M1 iMacs appear to have a manufacturing defect that causes the display to be mounted on the stand in a way that's not perfectly aligned,...

www.macrumors.com

Some M1 iMac models appear to sit off-center due to manufacturing flaw | AppleInsider

Some M1 iMac buyers are reporting an apparent issue with the way that the device is mounted to its stand, causing some iMacs to sit slightly crooked when on a flat surface.

appleinsider.com

Customers complain about M1 iMac with crooked stand - 9to5Mac

Customers are now complaining about iMac M1 units that were shipped with a "crooked" stand. It's unclear whether this is a widespread defect.

9to5mac.com

Does Your M1 iMac Have a Crooked Display? You May Not Be Alone.

This isn't exactly breaking news, but it also hasn't been blowing up the interwebs either. Some users are noticing something unusual with their new

eshop.macsales.com

Surprise M1 iMac design flaw spotted – is yours affected?

Some users aren't happy.

www.creativebloq.com

Some Apple M1 iMacs have crooked displays, and now you can't unsee it

Some Apple M1 iMac owners are reporting that their new computer has a crooked display. And once you see it...

www.androidauthority.com

There was a crooked man who bought a crooked M1 iMac, and we presume they lived together in a little crooked house

It's Crookedgate! Folks report receiving whizzy Apple gear with slightly wonky displays

www.theregister.com

Some M1 iMacs are arriving to customers with a crooked display

Multiple reports from new customers indicate that the mounting for some of the new M1 iMacs is crooked.

www.imore.com

M1 iMac owners complain that it's 'crooked'

Multiple reports of slightly tilted display on Reddit, YouTube and Apple's own support forums.

www.macworld.co.uk

Some M1 iMac Units are Shipping With Tilted Display and Crooked Mountings

Apple's new M1 iMac is tilted for some users with a misaligned display or a crooked mounting and it is not fixable by the userrs.

wccftech.com

Some brand new M1 iMacs are shipping with crooked displays

Apple last April unveiled its biggest iMac update in years. Aside from featuring the company’s brand new M1 processor, the new entry-level iMac boasts a …

bgr.com

Some brand new M1 iMacs are shipping with crooked displays

Apple last April unveiled its biggest iMac update in years. Aside from featuring the company’s brand new M1 processor, the new entry-level iMac boasts a larger 24-inch display, 2x faster GPU performance, a 1080p FaceTime HD camera, better speakers, and of course, a variety of color options. On...

www.yahoo.com

Sure sounds like an anecdotal report!

You're only further validating my reasoning for trying to determine just how widespread this actually is.

Actually all those links just illustrate how the same observations replicate to multiple Apple centric sites, is not evidence that it is indeed pervasive to the extent that one could determine any real conclusion. You started this thread to see if you got a few positives to visible tilt with this model of iMac. There has been some slightly tilted iMacs on occasion for years. If you encounter it, a simple phone call would allow you to exchange something received because it has a visible manufacturing defect. But you have not proved anything or made a decision I see.

 

[trip1ex]

If they sold models with the RAM and storage that I wanted to buy, I'd do that. Your strategy fails when you want a CTO model.




Actually, I'm basing it on these articles:

Some M1 iMac Models Shipping With Crooked Mountings

Some M1 iMacs appear to have a manufacturing defect that causes the display to be mounted on the stand in a way that's not perfectly aligned,...

www.macrumors.com

Some M1 iMac models appear to sit off-center due to manufacturing flaw | AppleInsider

Some M1 iMac buyers are reporting an apparent issue with the way that the device is mounted to its stand, causing some iMacs to sit slightly crooked when on a flat surface.

appleinsider.com

Customers complain about M1 iMac with crooked stand - 9to5Mac

Customers are now complaining about iMac M1 units that were shipped with a "crooked" stand. It's unclear whether this is a widespread defect.

9to5mac.com

Does Your M1 iMac Have a Crooked Display? You May Not Be Alone.

This isn't exactly breaking news, but it also hasn't been blowing up the interwebs either. Some users are noticing something unusual with their new

eshop.macsales.com

Surprise M1 iMac design flaw spotted – is yours affected?

Some users aren't happy.

www.creativebloq.com

Some Apple M1 iMacs have crooked displays, and now you can't unsee it

Some Apple M1 iMac owners are reporting that their new computer has a crooked display. And once you see it...

www.androidauthority.com

There was a crooked man who bought a crooked M1 iMac, and we presume they lived together in a little crooked house

It's Crookedgate! Folks report receiving whizzy Apple gear with slightly wonky displays

www.theregister.com

Some M1 iMacs are arriving to customers with a crooked display

Multiple reports from new customers indicate that the mounting for some of the new M1 iMacs is crooked.

www.imore.com

M1 iMac owners complain that it's 'crooked'

Multiple reports of slightly tilted display on Reddit, YouTube and Apple's own support forums.

www.macworld.co.uk

Some M1 iMac Units are Shipping With Tilted Display and Crooked Mountings

Apple's new M1 iMac is tilted for some users with a misaligned display or a crooked mounting and it is not fixable by the userrs.

wccftech.com

Some brand new M1 iMacs are shipping with crooked displays

Apple last April unveiled its biggest iMac update in years. Aside from featuring the company’s brand new M1 processor, the new entry-level iMac boasts a …

bgr.com

Some brand new M1 iMacs are shipping with crooked displays

Apple last April unveiled its biggest iMac update in years. Aside from featuring the company’s brand new M1 processor, the new entry-level iMac boasts a larger 24-inch display, 2x faster GPU performance, a 1080p FaceTime HD camera, better speakers, and of course, a variety of color options. On...

www.yahoo.com

Sure sounds like an anecdotal report!




You're only further validating my reasoning for trying to determine just how widespread this actually is.

lol. those aren't separate reports even. I'm not sure even sure that we call those the plural of report. Nevermind Apple operates on such a huge scale that a handful of reports would be a nothing burger.

And afaik the hinge on the iMac is something Apple has done for ~10-15 years.

Also realize that, in a world where Apple sells ~16-20 million Macs per year, there are going to be thousands if not tens of thousands of customers who have problems with their newly purchased Macs every year.

It really seems like you have no interest in an iMac. And just want to gossip and spread FUD.

 

[Realityck]

It'd honestly be ideal (at least the 4-port/8 GPU Core version) were it possible to guarantee no crooked hinge.

just go to this link for blue or silver and check for both the standard 8GB/512TB config and the 16GB /1TB config (select those options) in stock locally. (they dribble in) Then go to the store or buy online, then pickup and verify at that time. Then you would be guaranteed.

 

[Yebubbleman]

Actually all those links just illustrate how the same observations replicate to multiple Apple centric sites, is not evidence that it is indeed pervasive to the extent that one could determine any real conclusion. You started this thread to see if you got a few positives to visible tilt with this model of iMac.

I was looking for positives and negatives. What I WASN'T looking for was all of the "this isn't a real concern" commentary. Because enough data from actual M1 iMac owners would be able to prove enough of that one way or the other and it sounds like everyone commenting doesn't have anything other than their own opinion (which is nothing more than a mostly educated guess) to tell me how widespread this is or isn't.

Furthermore, most of those links detail individual first-hand experiences of the phenomenon in question, leading to the suggestion that this is more of an issue

There has been some slightly tilted iMacs on occasion for years. If you encounter it, a simple phone call would allow you to exchange something received because it has a visible manufacturing defect. But you have not proved anything or made a decision I see.

I'm not looking to prove anything other than that commentary that suggests that this is or isn't worth even questioning doesn't mean anything given how many places are reporting it (also how many different forums are reporting it). I'm looking for data. Nothing more. Whether or not you or others think it's a stupid question to be posing is entirely irrelevant to the purpose of the original post.

lol. those aren't separate reports even. I'm not sure even sure that we call those the plural of report. Nevermind Apple operates on such a huge scale that a handful of reports would be a nothing burger.

You clearly don't have much experience with these kinds of manufacturing/design defect issues as far as Apple is concerned then. They're seldom a nothing burger. Not with that much news coverage and people posting about it across multiple different forums.

And afaik the hinge on the iMac is something Apple has done for ~10-15 years.

Except that this hinge was redesigned for this year...?

Also realize that, in a world where Apple sells ~16-20 million Macs per year, there are going to be thousands if not tens of thousands of customers who have problems with their newly purchased Macs every year.

THEN LET THE DATA SHOW THAT. Your nonsense commentary that I'm spreading FUD proves nothing.

It really seems like you have no interest in an iMac. And just want to gossip and spread FUD.

I actually have great interest in an iMac. Albeit not for myself, personally. You seem unwilling to entertain any idea that isn't your own, especially as it pertains to what I'm actually trying to do in this thread. There is no point in debating you further here when you are responding in such a closed-minded fashion. Good day to you, sir.

just go to this link for blue or silver and check for both the standard 8GB/512TB config and the 16GB /1TB config (select those options) in stock locally. (they dribble in) Then go to the store or buy online, then pickup and verify at that time. Then you would be guaranteed.

Yes, but that's still annoying to have to do. I don't have to do that when I order a 13" MacBook Pro or a MacBook Air, or a Mac mini, or even a 16" MacBook Pro. One shouldn't have to play the damn lottery in order to buy a $1400-2100 desktop.

 

[trip1ex]

I was looking for positives and negatives. What I WASN'T looking for was all of the "this isn't a real concern" commentary. Because enough data from actual M1 iMac owners would be able to prove enough of that one way or the other and it sounds like everyone commenting doesn't have anything other than their own opinion (which is nothing more than a mostly educated guess) to tell me how widespread this is or isn't.

Furthermore, most of those links detail individual first-hand experiences of the phenomenon in question, leading to the suggestion that this is more of an issue




I'm not looking to prove anything other than that commentary that suggests that this is or isn't worth even questioning doesn't mean anything given how many places are reporting it (also how many different forums are reporting it). I'm looking for data. Nothing more. Whether or not you or others think it's a stupid question to be posing is entirely irrelevant to the purpose of the original post.




You clearly don't have much experience with these kinds of manufacturing/design defect issues as far as Apple is concerned then. They're seldom a nothing burger. Not with that much news coverage and people posting about it across multiple different forums.



Except that this hinge was redesigned for this year...?



THEN LET THE DATA SHOW THAT. Your nonsense commentary that I'm spreading FUD proves nothing.




I actually have great interest in an iMac. Albeit not for myself, personally. You seem unwilling to entertain any idea that isn't your own, especially as it pertains to what I'm actually trying to do in this thread. There is no point in debating you further here when you are responding in such a closed-minded fashion. Good day to you, sir.




Yes, but that's still annoying to have to do. I don't have to do that when I order a 13" MacBook Pro or a MacBook Air, or a Mac mini, or even a 16" MacBook Pro. One shouldn't have to play the damn lottery in order to buy a $1400-2100 desktop.

lol guy ~1 crooked report on the internet repeated 100x is still ~1 report. Meanwhile there are thousands of customers if not tens of thousands of customers with problems with Macs every year.

Yet somehow you purchased Macs and recommended them in the past I assume. I'm not sure how that was possible given you seemingly can't do so now because of ~1 anecdotal report.

 

[Yebubbleman]

lol guy ~1 crooked report on the internet repeated 100x is still ~1 report. Meanwhile there are thousands of customers if not tens of thousands of customers with problems with Macs every year.

Yet somehow you purchased Macs and recommended them in the past I assume. I'm not sure how that was possible given you seemingly can't do so now because of ~1 anecdotal report.

You do realize that there are more than ~1 people in this thread reporting the issue, also other threads with other people also reporting this issue, right? I'm not sure where you get the ~1 person figure from. Certainly, I welcome the data point, but if it's merely conjecture, that's not really useful to me. Thanks anyway!

 

[Realityck]

You do realize that there are more than ~1 people in this thread reporting the issue, also other threads with other people also reporting this issue, right? I'm not sure where you get the ~1 person figure from. Certainly, I welcome the data point, but if it's merely conjecture, that's not really useful to me. Thanks anyway!

So far only lastcosmonaut discussed his being 1-2 MM in this thread. You might want to audit your thread.

 

[Realityck]

Yes, but that's still annoying to have to do. I don't have to do that when I order a 13" MacBook Pro or a MacBook Air, or a Mac mini, or even a 16" MacBook Pro. One shouldn't have to play the damn lottery in order to buy a $1400-2100 desktop.

Yes buying limited availability is more challenging then widely available. It is what it is.

 

[trip1ex]

You do realize that there are more than ~1 people in this thread reporting the issue, also other threads with other people also reporting this issue, right? I'm not sure where you get the ~1 person figure from. Certainly, I welcome the data point, but if it's merely conjecture, that's not really useful to me. Thanks anyway!

you do realize if they sell 1 million iMacs per year that translates to ~3000 sold per day. And if 0.03% have a problem that means 10 problems per day.

How long has this topic gone on for? 3 days? 30 problems already if 0.03% problem rate since you started this thread.

You can't recommend it nor buy it. Those odds of a problem are too high for you.

 

[ZebedeeG]

Who knew a slightly wonky computer could cause so much angst... 🥴

...meanwhile a pandemic continues to engulf the world and millions die. 😷

 

[Fishrrman]

This is one of those threads in which, as it progresses, one thinks, "just how weird is this going to get..????"

 

[poked]

This is one of those threads in which, as it progresses, one thinks, "just how weird is this going to get..????"

Honestly I’m waiting for the flat earth Mac theory to come out with BiG Apple being at the center of it. “My iMac is 0.2mm tilted, I’m going to go live in a cave and cry!” Come on now. Defects happen in every mass-produced market. That’s the way it be. I don’t really think OP is going to buy one anyway, I think they wanted to find a defect to reccomend a Windows machine to their parents. Enjoy the bloat ware, op.

 

[Luis Ortega]

Reliability clearly isn't a concern for you because you have blind faith that Apple will remedy any actual design defect. I hope you never experience Apple behaving to the contrary as I, myself, have (as well as countless of others). My mom and stepdad don't want to have to deal with taking in an iMac to get everything transplanted into a whole 'nother iMac. That's an actual pain. They actually use their computers, so to be without them due to a design defect would be inconvenient. This is ABSOLUTELY the basis to decide. Who are you to insist otherwise?

The fanboys seem very intent on denying your experience.
Next they'll be telling you that the desks are crooked, not the iMac.