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@mikeyy00 You shouldn't make such claims without knowing what you are talking about. Those are SMART statistics and they are standardized. There is nothing that can go wrong reading that information out. Of course the controller itself could generate wrong data, but that also is not the case. People reporting the high TBW values are actually able to see insane amounts of data being written in Activity Monitor. So the issue definitely does exist. The question is what is causing the problem. It definitely isn't the SWAP file and it is not a general issue with macOS. To see why, check my post here.
 
Not true. I have old computers that supported initial Windows 10 but stopped on 1803. Even tried to install fresh 1809+ didn't work well.
This sounds like is a specific technical issue on your PC. Apple stops supporting older hardware as a matter of policy. My home PC is 10 year old and it runs the latest Windows 10 (updating regularly without my doing anything about it).
 
So.. people are trusting a homebrew app designed for traditional storage controllers. Keeping in mind any T2 based mac / M1 Mac use a proprietary controller unique to Apple.

Hmm. Smells like a nothing burger to me. Anyone else?

It's safer than Apple app store since there's source code you can audit before installing.
 
I run the tool on my M1 mac mini 256gb 8gb ram and it has written 20TB in 2 weeks! What the hell!
 
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Well if it’s unreasonable to automatically assume it’s an issue than it should also be unreasonable to automatically assume it isn’t one, no? Definitely would appreciate a statement from apple on this

It's only unreasonable if there are NO facts in evidence.

Also, why does Apple have to comment on every issue raised by incompetent/unqualified/panic-stricken cattle that are startled because some other incompetent/unqualified/panic-stricken cattle bolts?

Only an idiot would argue that Apple is not employing the brightest and most talented people the planet has to offer. If you think yourself worthy to criticize the decision-making abilities of the smartest and most savvy people on Earth, then it is literally time to put up or shut up. Apple's HR door is literally open 24x7x365 if you have the brainpower to show them what they are doing wrong. Apply and show us all the path to the light.

In other words, let he who is without sin start emptying the quarry.
 
This sounds like is a specific technical issue on your PC. Apple stops supporting older hardware as a matter of policy. My home PC is 10 year old and it runs the latest Windows 10 (updating regularly without my doing anything about it).
It wasn't my PC it was an HP Laptop from 2014.

If your 10 year old PC is a desktop, then it does not surprise me. But laptops are far worse for this type of thing. I had a co-worker with a cheapo 2011 laptop that couldn't upgrade to Windows 8 because the processor it used wasn't able to support the NX feature.
 
It's only unreasonable if there are NO facts in evidence.

Also, why does Apple have to comment on every issue raised by incompetent/unqualified/panic-stricken cattle that are startled because some other incompetent/unqualified/panic-stricken cattle bolts?

Only an idiot would argue that Apple is not employing the brightest and most talented people the planet has to offer. If you think yourself worthy to criticize the decision-making abilities of the smartest and most savvy people on Earth, then it is literally time to put up or shut up. Apple's HR door is literally open 24x7x365 if you have the brainpower to show them what they are doing wrong. Apply and show us all the path to the light.

In other words, let he who is without sin start emptying the quarry.
Obviously someone posting online probably in college working at McDonalds has more experience than the hundreds of Apple employees put together!
 
It's only unreasonable if there are NO facts in evidence.

Also, why does Apple have to comment on every issue raised by incompetent/unqualified/panic-stricken cattle that are startled because some other incompetent/unqualified/panic-stricken cattle bolts?

Only an idiot would argue that Apple is not employing the brightest and most talented people the planet has to offer. If you think yourself worthy to criticize the decision-making abilities of the smartest and most savvy people on Earth, then it is literally time to put up or shut up. Apple's HR door is literally open 24x7x365 if you have the brainpower to show them what they are doing wrong. Apply and show us all the path to the light.

In other words, let he who is without sin start emptying the quarry.
We’re entitled to a voice and customer services at this sort of price points. Give up whatever you want to give up but I remind you that the iPhone 4 was also just “cattle” at first. Somehow I just already know what side you were on back then
 
But Apple can choose to screw those customers and blame them from not using the machine correctly. They won’t lose money for that. They only ever set up repair program after enough media backlash.
It’s not like Apple is hurt from losing customers.

You want to know how I know you don't know what you are talking about?

Because I know the exact number of warranty extension programs Apple has established to exactly ZERO media backlash.

But don't let me interfere with your delusional ranting. Please continue.
 
It's only unreasonable if there are NO facts in evidence.

Also, why does Apple have to comment on every issue raised by incompetent/unqualified/panic-stricken cattle that are startled because some other incompetent/unqualified/panic-stricken cattle bolts?

Only an idiot would argue that Apple is not employing the brightest and most talented people the planet has to offer. If you think yourself worthy to criticize the decision-making abilities of the smartest and most savvy people on Earth, then it is literally time to put up or shut up. Apple's HR door is literally open 24x7x365 if you have the brainpower to show them what they are doing wrong. Apply and show us all the path to the light.

In other words, let he who is without sin start emptying the quarry.
Relax. Firstly, Apple is employing regular engineers not super-geniuses. Their salaries are somewhat competitive but not more than that. It's a job for hire which always has limited financial opportunities. Apple will comment on this whether the concerns are real or not because they have to address the issue that got their customers concerned. This happened many time before. They probably won't do it today but, regardless, it would be stupid to claim that the issue is not real because Apple has not commented on it (yet). Usually it takes them weeks (and sometimes - months) to come up with clarifications/explanations/recalls.
 
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What's your typical workload and apps that you run?
Internet browsing (edge & safari) and iMessage? How is it even possible to write 20TB of data that I never consumed. Something must be going really wrong with their swap (which I typically see at around 6GB).
 
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Relax. Firstly, Apple is employing regular engineers not super-geniuses. Their salaries are somewhat competitive but not more than that. It's a job for hire which always has limited financial opportunities. Apple will comment on this whether the concerns are real or not because they have to address the issue that got their customers concerned. This happened many time before. They probably won't do it today but, regardless, it would be stupid to claim that the issue is not real because Apple has not commented on it (yet). Usually it takes them weeks (and sometimes - months) to come up with clarifications/explanations/recalls.

Yeah he is not just a regular old engineer.
 
It wasn't my PC it was an HP Laptop from 2014.

If your 10 year old PC is a desktop, then it does not surprise me. But laptops are far worse for this type of thing. I had a co-worker with a cheapo 2011 laptop that couldn't upgrade to Windows 8 because the processor it used wasn't able to support the NX feature.

Sounds like user error. Should've checked BIOS settings to ensure NX support is enabled, update the BIOS or, just bypass the message and proceed with OS installation.
 
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What you wrote is still false. PCs as old or even older are still supported by latest Windows 10 while Macs are abandoned and no longer supported by latest MacOS Big Sur.
I was speaking to build quality, so I don’t know how I can be wrong on that.

I also don’t understand why my friend should stop using his 2010 machine just because it’s not running Big Sur...that’s an odd sentiment.
 
We’re entitled to a voice and customer services at this sort of price points. Give up whatever you want to give up but I remind you that the iPhone 4 was also just “cattle” at first. Somehow I just already know what side you were on back then
Exactly, completely, 100% wrong.

You are "entitled" to value in exchange for your money. You received that value when you exchanged money for your Apple product. You are NOT entitled to one thin penny more. In fact, Apple has spent a great deal of money paying lawyers to exactly and precisely explain in a contract what value you are "entitled" to receive. Look at apple.com/legal - not that you will - to educate yourself as to exactly what your "entitlements" are in reality.

If you attempt to extract one penny more, that is what is called "breech of contract". Apple should immediately sue you for it, but then you would be all butthurt and run off crying to the media or anyone else who mistakenly listens to your bleating.

Unlike you, I read contracts. I know exactly where the lines are drawn. I don't attempt to claim that I have "rights" that are not spelled out in the contract to which I HAVE AGREED TO ALL THE TERMS. If you don't agree, then don't buy Apple products.

It really is just that simple.

Trying to invent "rights" after all contracts are executed should get you sued, but you are just lucky this hasn't happened to you yet.
 
Internet browsing (edge & safari) and iMessage? How is it even possible to write 20TB of data that I never consumed. Something must be going really wrong with their swap (which I typically see at around 6GB).
What apps do you have installed? Even with me having Adobe apps under rosetta I am not even at 1TBW yet over a month and a half of ownership.
 
Sounds like user error. Should've checked BIOS settings to ensure NX support is enabled, update the BIOS or, just bypass the message and proceed with OS installation.
Nope, even the official Intel specification said it was not using NX.
 
It's only unreasonable if there are NO facts in evidence.

Also, why does Apple have to comment on every issue raised by incompetent/unqualified/panic-stricken cattle that are startled because some other incompetent/unqualified/panic-stricken cattle bolts?

Only an idiot would argue that Apple is not employing the brightest and most talented people the planet has to offer. If you think yourself worthy to criticize the decision-making abilities of the smartest and most savvy people on Earth, then it is literally time to put up or shut up. Apple's HR door is literally open 24x7x365 if you have the brainpower to show them what they are doing wrong. Apply and show us all the path to the light.

In other words, let he who is without sin start emptying the quarry.

You mean the same talented folks that brought us the failed butterfly keyboard?
 
Nope, even the official Intel specification said it was not using NX.

Doesn't mean anything unless you provide the make and model. It's like claiming a car is unreliable but don't state what make and model it is. NX is supported on 2008 era so it sounds fishy it's not supported on 2011 and 2014.
 
I was speaking to build quality, so I don’t know how I can be wrong on that.

I also don’t understand why my friend should stop using his 2010 machine just because it’s not running Big Sur...that’s an odd sentiment.

Hello? Your friends are running High Sierra which is no longer receiving security updates. You're back pedaling.
 
Doesn't mean anything unless you provide the make and model. It's like claiming a car is unreliable but don't state what make and model it is. NX is supported on 2008 era so it sounds fishy it's not supported on 2011 and 2014.
You honestly expect me to remember a specific Intel processor on a 2011 laptop (which was probably 2010 or 2009 processor) when I investigated issues upgrading to Windows 8 when we upgraded systems in 2013? I have since left that job and have had several other jobs since then. How do you expect me to remember the model number? Its not like I can export all my notes when I leave a company and take them with me.

I guess you never worked in corporate IT or managed services provider where you look at hundreds of systems a week.
 
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You mean the same talented folks that brought us the failed butterfly keyboard?

I’m not sure if you know this or not, but sometimes things that are viable on the engineering floor, flop in practical use. It’s easy to try guess what might happen, but at the end of the day there’s this thing called the human element, and it’s very hard to try and account for.

This is oh so common in the automotive industry, if you haven’t noticed.
 
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