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M1 Macbook Air or M2?
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Op do you have a Costco nearby? Or Costco membership? They have great deals and 90 day return policy. You can always return if you need something else.
M2 100%. Get the first of the new, not the last of the old. Stretch your budget, delay purchase a couple months to increase budget, well worth getting new generation
Agreed. Apple engineers spent tens of thousands of hours improving M2 over M1. The differences are non-obvious but substantive, much more than the ~20% improvement seen in benchmarks.
M1 is first of the new… not last of the old?
20% in benchmarks is not worth the trade offs of 25% increase in price, and thermal issues imo.
1) My whole point is that there is a lot more to it than benchmark grades.
2) What "thermal issues?" I hope you are not listening to some clickbaiting UTube moron. I have had Mac laptops since the Duos, and my maximum-spec M2 MBP is the temperature-coolest Mac laptop ever; by a lot. Similarly-designed but lower-performing M1 MBPs may be even cooler, but even if so the issue is irrelevant.
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I am curious about the thermal issues? How often are these issues occurring? What workflow? What is the impact?
The "thermal issues" you refer to are the difference between very cool and slightly less cool, compared to the pre silicon era. It is ridiculous to be concerned about thermal issues on the M2 MBA.
I say this as a previous (for two years) owner of two M1 MBA, and current (for six months) owner of the M2 MBA. I have absolutely zero regrets about the change.
You may buy something other than an M2 MBA for lots of valid reasons, but please don't do it for supposed "thermal issues".
I did some testing of the throttling due to thermal issues comparing the M2 MBA vs M1 MBA, reported here. Yes the M2 throttles a bit more but is still faster than the M1 after 30 minutes of continuous 100% CPU Cinebench tests, and is still cool.
For many years "throttling" was seen as the sure sign of a badly designed, inadequately cooled machine. The whole paragidm has changed with Silicon Macs where throttling is a legitimate and deliberate design tool. The machines do not overheat because they throttle by circa 10-30% instead of having a noisy fan. Many people have a hard time understanding that fanless MBAs are still perfectly capable of doing high load tasks for extended periods (two hour test reported in post#279 here), just a bit more slowly (and silently!). You tube reviewers just love to panda to the "throttling is the work of the devil" brigade by mentioning throttling. It all has to be put in proper perspective.
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There was a lot of stuff about it in the news when the machines launched - I haven’t really looked into how severe it is but I just think the M1 - while technically inferior - is a much better value proposition than the M2 due to the reduced cost and mostly similar performance.
The MBP is not the MBA it has a fan to help with cooling, but there was a lot of stuff about it in the media when they launched:
'Severe' thermal throttling in Apple M2 chip raises questions about MacBook Air performance
The just-released MacBook Pro running Apple's new M2 processor offers generally good performance, but its single fan can't stop it from experiencing
www.cultofmac.com
Point is, I feel the M1 presents a much better value proposition than the M2. It’s much cheaper, gives mostly the same performance (or rather, enough performance for the workflow outlined here), runs cooler, comes with a base model SSD twice the speed of the M2. No brainer to recommend it over the M2 unless you really really need that extra 15-25% performance boost.
So you don’t have any first hand experience, it’s all based on some guy who said something. You do know max tech fudged the heat sink mechanism, modified and claimed it runs hot.
If you think M1 is better value, say so , no need to put FUD about M2. There are many on these forums who love M2, my family uses an MBA M2, has no heat issues. I use a M1 Max 16 MBP. Both are great machines.
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First hand experience would only ever be anecdotal - I based an opinion on widely reported media but no I didn’t verify it.
This said, the latest form on the front page is complaining about M2 temperatures so maybe there is some stock in it.
The link you provided was fake news. The guy himself wrote he is expecting mba m2 to be hot. It wasn’t even released. Lol the first page about M2 being hot is exactly same as my M1. The guy thinks his M2 is hot because it’s 45C. And his friends M2 is 35-40 C.
You can’t parrot some one’s opinion with out data. Like I said what issues? What workflows? What is hot? Provide the details. If it’s widely reported by some one, it’s not hard to provide credible data.
A big FUD. Did you read the link or just the heading. Here is the quote from the link.
You may need to consider screen on M2 Air, which is better (no PWM and slightly bigger) than M1 Air. Other than that, M1 Air has better value.
For that I just read the headline - there was other media around it at the time and believe it or not I don’t actually owe you anything
No, read an article before posting the link. Middle school level reading should be enough.
Or read the m2 air is hot thread before referencing it. I am yet to see any details on your allegations. m2 runs 5-10 % hotter is no big deal since it is over clocked. And also M2 has higher temperature threshold than M1.
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