M1 Max is overkill, nobody needs this much power!!

[subjonas]

Simply get a gaming PC or console, if you're into that kinda stuff. Apple doesn't advertise their computers as gaming rigs for triple-A titles. Get the right tool for the job that you intend it to do.

Not sure how this response is relevant to my post.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

This is like comparing bodybuilders to strongman competitors.

 

[StudioMacs]

I agree. it’s very simple: Just use the right tool for the right job.

 

[Fallinangel]

Not sure how this response is relevant to my post.

I wanted to say that comparing the M1 assortment to gaming rigs is pointless. It's a different chip architecture, form factor, targeted towards distinct audiences, and Windows is far more optimized towards gaming with Direct X than macOS with Metal, which is younger.

 

[Random_Matt]

Nobody needs an iPhone either.
Most things in life we do not need, we are a society of consumerism.

 

[MayaUser]

That’s all you guys can come up with? “I am worse than a chess benchmark people. “He must be a hardcore gamer!”.

The fact still stands. The statement that only a small group of “professionals” use this much power is misinformation. It is not true.

Anyway, keep spreading this misinformation while it is fact that it is not true.

stop lying .i am one of those...as a maya user i need so much gpu as apple can give me. I can use even the next suppose mac pro 128 gpu cores, when this "max" that for you is overkill to me will be a baby bug
This thread should be close since its meant to be toxic by the OP

 

[cupcakes2000]

In any case, the statement that only a small group of “professionals” can only use this much power is simply not true. The Xbox Series X is just an example to show this.

To which statement are you referring? The one you made yourself in the title of this thread? Or is there a link somewhere to some sort of definitive 'end all' statement that is warranting your ridiculous obsession?

The Mac studio ultra is a very powerful machine, very few non professional tasks need this type of power, and can be easily done on the also very powerful but slightly lower spec M1's. This is a clear fact.
Even plenty of professional workflows don't even need this type of power. I want it as a professional photographer - but I certainly dont need it. It would be massive overkill.

Gamers do use a lot of power, and most are non professional. But they wouldn't even buy this machine - even if it was 10 x more powerful than an xbox. It's not for them - you can't buy any games for it. Video editors (for example) wouldn't buy an Xbox to edit their videos on even if it was 10 times as powerful as a top end Mac. Because their software wouldn't run on it. And if it did, it would be wildly unoptimised.

So your point is valid to an extent - but you comparison is absurd.

 

[appltech]

There are a lot of things that could use it. Spying included lol
And Web apps, chunky written apps, system features, 10K streams, new macOS "Bomberlay" with 16Gb min requirement, and so on.
Maybe it will extend the device's lifespan

 

[satcomer]

Can an X-Box compile a 8K video file or five thousand lines in their DAW! The Max is as so you don't have to wait all day for render to crunch!

 

[EvilMonk]

Xbox Series X = 12 TFLOPS
M1 Max. = 10 TFLOPS

And real world benchmarks is not something we need to go there as the Xbox Series X runs every AAA game at 4K resolution without any problems, while the M1 Max even struggles with super old games like Starcraft 2.

Looks like many people use more power than a M1 Max.

If you want to play on numbers it’s 10.4 Tflops for the m1 max… ?

 

[snak-atak]

Yet a $499 Xbox Series X is 20% more powerful than a M1 Max.

I've never used an Xbox and never will so I'll take your word for it. Sad to say the work I do cannot be done on the Xbox easily. I am happy you are pleased with your investment.

I will say that the M1 Max may be overkill, but I got one anyway and love it. I previously used an M1 for a year and it handled 98% of my work just fine, but I love having a machine that NEVER stresses no matter what I throw at it. I will probably still be using this machine even after the M3, M5, and M7 are old news. That to me is worth the price.

 

[Ethosik]

Xbox Series X runs every AAA game at 4K resolution without any problems

People need to stop being so over the top with the gaming discussions. Xbox can’t play God of War or Spider-Man. PlayStation can’t play Halo. Windows can’t play Spider-Man or Horizon Forbidden West.

 

[EvilMonk]

I love my Xbox One X and my PS5… I ain’t getting no Series X ?

 

[AxiomaticRubric]

Also wanted to add, I assume the thread title:

M1 Max is overkill, nobody needs this much power!!​

is a quote of some kind since it’s obviously not your belief. If anyone said that, then all that means is they don’t need that much power and they aren’t able to imagine other people’s workflows that do need that much power. That’s all. It’s a nonsense statement, therefore not a worthy starting off point for a debate.

It’s a statement designed to provoke a negative emotional response, also known as ‘trolling’.

 

[bobcomer]

I will say that the M1 Max may be overkill, but I got one anyway and love it. I previously used an M1 for a year and it handled 98% of my work just fine, but I love having a machine that NEVER stresses no matter what I throw at it. I will probably still be using this machine even after the M3, M5, and M7 are old news. That to me is worth the price.

I really hate all this overkill discussion, but in your case specifically, even if you don't use the max capabilities of your computer 98% of the time, that means you *need* that capability 2% of the time. Anything that makes what you do easier and less upsetting is well worth paying the price for it.

For me it's the same, I don't need all this computer power, and think of me having almost 3 times the amount of computing power in front of me. A Studio Max, a Windows Workstation with i9 and 128G of RAM (every bit as fast as my Studio), and a couple other computers. Do I need that all the time, heck no, not even close, but anything that makes what I need done easier and faster, that's what I'll do, every time. Nobody can tell you what you have is overkill as they cannot possibly know.

My next upgrade will probably be a Windows machine, but after that, an M3 Max or better will be nice. . I keep computers a long time, but my front line get upgraded fairly often.

 

[EvilMonk]

Nonono, I understand what OP means. He is a hardcore gamer and he purchased Intel Macs, using bootcamp to game before, and was quite satisfied with the results. Now, with Apple silicon, what he was used to do is no longer possible, and running windows games using compatibility layers we can find is clearly less than optimal.

He criticized Apple bacause:

- He cannot run windows anymore
- M1 series is not fast enough to run games in compatibility layers

Thus, he concluded that the transition to Apple silicon cost too much. And then, he compares a computer with a game console, because it makes little difference for a gaming people.

I was about to post a screenshot about what you wrote… it’s normal from the OP it seems to moan and whine about the M1 lately… as you can see ??

 

[rgwebb]

Xbox Series X = 12 TFLOPS
M1 Max. = 10 TFLOPS

And real world benchmarks is not something we need to go there as the Xbox Series X runs every AAA game at 4K resolution without any problems, while the M1 Max even struggles with super old games like Starcraft 2.

Looks like many people use more power than a M1 Max.

Apple never sold these SoCs as something that could drive 4K gaming. They built their high-end chips to satisfy the professional work flows that Apple has normally targeted (photography, videography, and software engineering).

You're essentially arguing that a Huracán is not a great automobile because it cannot climb rocks as well as Wrangler. You can decide who is the Lambo and Jeep in this comparison but it doesn't really matter. It is not a useful comparison even though both are automobiles.

 

[rgwebb]

I was about to post a screenshot about what you wrote… it’s normal from the OP it seems to moan and whine about the M1 lately… as you can see ??

Seems like the person is one of the few remaining, ardent Microsoft fanboys on this terra firma.

 

[EvilMonk]

Seems like the person is one of the few remaining, ardent Microsoft fanboys on this terra firma.

He even lies about having an m1 max 16” MBP to bash it ?‍♂️? pathetic…

 

[Captain_Mac]

Xbox Series X = 12 TFLOPS
M1 Max. = 10 TFLOPS

And real world benchmarks is not something we need to go there as the Xbox Series X runs every AAA game at 4K resolution without any problems, while the M1 Max even struggles with super old games like Starcraft 2.

Looks like many people use more power than a M1 Max.

Comparisons like these mean nothing. The number of TFLOPS is not an Apples to Apples comparison.
And we can video edit on an M1 Max so much faster than on an Xbox while the latter "struggles".
Choose the right tool for the right purpose. And software also plays a part on the story, it's not just hardware.

 

[kevcube]

Do you know what TFLOPS are? Floating point operations per second - something highly GPU bound, and typically not very important for development or 2D editing workflows - apples target market.

It’s like saying a Tacoma can tow more than a Supra.

Go buy a Tacoma then!

 

[SoldOnApple]

I wish I could use Creative Cloud on Xbox Series X.

 

[portland-dude]

If you want to play on numbers it’s 10.4 Tflops for the m1 max… ?

What’s funny to me is you’d never hear a real honest money making pro quote how many Tflops a machine has. Not gonna happen. We have a high end intel iMac (16GB GPU version) that my wife uses for her pro design work. She doesn’t give two shi*s about benchmarks. She just cares about getting work done to make money. How novel!

 

[MLL63QNA]

“M1 Max is overkill, nobody needs this much power!!”​

however the beauty of living in the real world, we can buy whatever you want regardless if it’s more powerful than what we need. I think it’s called freedom of choice. ?

Its also future proofing which is never a bad idea.

 

[MLL63QNA]

Im actually saving money to get M1 Max 16” with 32GB of ram and 1TB of storage just for web browsing and watching Twitch.

Why you may ask?

Like I said, future proofing. Im sick and tired of buying these 200 euros laptops that lasts 2 months, Ive said to myself “never again”. My next laptop will be pricy but worth it.