Personally I will always happily carry a couple more pounds to get the far better display, far better speakers, etc. of the MBP. Plus having extra power/RAM makes everything run much more smoothly.
He had tried to sell it for $1700. I sent him links and said you haven’t sold it because you’re asking too much. He replied after he went another weekend. I think people just aren’t buying stuff for themselves right now. And he said he bought the computer and never used it. It has six battery cycles so I tend to believe him. He said he was done with Apple. He lost so much money because he bought it right before Apple introduced the M2 Max. And I said well think of how those people feel when nine months later Apple introduced a superior M3 Max in the same year. Mind blown. I don’t feel bad as I am taking a risk too. There are lots of bad actors out there. It’s always a risk. But the same thing would have cost me $2200 at like $1600 off from BH or Adorama new. And I get far less warranty. There has to be give and take on buying used items especially technology that could have had something spilled on it or some problem not disclosed.
We disagree because support does not matter really and "go with a base M3 Pro MBP 16"" means just 18 GB RAM. But your points are very well taken and it would come down to pricing and how important things like WiFi 6E are (very important to me personally).
It is not simply about power for the simple tasks mentioned. MBPs have better displays, better speakers, etc. Also note that stronger computers do not use fans for simple tasks, but the power is there if needed anytime during the 4-6 year life cycle of a new box. Weaker boxes are not better, they are just cheaper.
The Air screen is better than 99% of laptops out there, and most people can’t tell the difference. The one on mine is spectacular and the blacks are as good as I could ask for. Speakers I’ll give ya that but I havent heard the 15’s, and there are a few other niceties here and there sure.
I would say this is 75% correct.
He wants a 16" display. A 16" display is always going to be larger than a 15" display.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
For certain definitions of "recently," sure. July 2022 was the last update for Catalina.
Eh, it’s 0.9” larger (15.3 vs 16.2), not really that big of a deal. I think it’s worth checking out at an Apple Store or BB at least to see if it suits their needs. The extra 1.4lbs to lug around makes a big difference too if they’re going to take it anywhere.
.It is fine to say buy the MBA to save money, you will not mind the lesser display, the lesser speakers, less available RAM, the lesser memory bandwidth, throttling under heavy loads, etc. We agree some folks should buy the cheaper box. I considered buying an MBA but the very limited available RAM made it not an option.
Dude the thing has 64gb ram, you don’t think that’s overkill for someone who mainly wants to browse the web and do office tasks? You really think they’re going to use all that memory bandwidth?
Apple's HARDWARE vintage policy does not align with their SOFTWARE policy (i.e. Apple Watch 3 not getting updates).Apple has official vintage policy. Anything after that time is at mercy of the Apple. Sure you may get more time, but it’s always a risk to spend large amount of $$$ on something Apple stopped selling. If it was 1200 bucks, I would buy one. Personally 2500 is too much for me.
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It’s not Hardware specific policy. Apple is not obligated to provide updates after a product is vintage. Now, they do provide updates, but not obligated. Like I said 2500 is too rich for my tastes to gamble on what Apple may or may not do after product becomes vintage.
For some products (Apple Watch Series 3) Apple does not provide updates even when they were still selling the product :O Again, the hardware support status is not connected to the software support status.
That AW example is totally irrelevant to Vintage Product Policy of Apple. Apple policy is for Mac, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and iPod.
only if your dGPU is still good. I loved my 2012 MBP 15 retina. I didn't love it's frequent logic board failures.
