Tell me you havent used Safari in the last year without telling me...Lol, Safari for serious productivity its a sad joke. Even for casual browsing & performance lacks big time.
Tell me you havent used Safari in the last year without telling me...Lol, Safari for serious productivity its a sad joke. Even for casual browsing & performance lacks big time.
@ipedro yep that was another thing I had considered, I actually use Chrome, Safari AND FireFox. I saw you had both Chrome and Safari open. I could probably ditch Chrome. I do most things in Safari, but web dev I prefer FireFox - but then I end up just filling whatever browser I'm in with tabs and windowsThese are exactly my symptoms, verbatim. All the way down to Quick Look just showing an icon instead of a preview. I'm glad I'm not alone – though I'm sorry for your poor machine performance.
Do you use Chrome @ajergome? I use Google Chat and Drive on my Mac, both are Chrome based.
This has been broken since Monterey beta 1 and reported several times.Another symptom I forgot to mention is that iCloud sync sometimes hangs uploading or downloading forever (right now it's downloading - 206.5mb of 209.6mb and it'll stay there forever until a reboot.
ah! thank you.This has been broken since Monterey beta 1 and reported several times.
Those video and graphics apps are native apps. Websites are basically Javascript apps these days running on top of a Javascript interpreter. Modern web frameworks are memory and cpu hogs and that's without all the ads and tracking cookies that get loaded.Overall, with the tips from the folks in this thread, I'm fairly certain the culprit is all the browser windows. That's kind of surprising given the heavy video and graphics rendering this machine is (was?) capable of, websites are bringing it to its knees.
Is Honey mining bitcoin these days??? What the hell???Memory:
How many tabs do you have open?Another update:
So, Chrome has been banished from my Mac... but Brave has taken over the hungry hippo role:
How many tabs do you have open?
Are you still running the same extensions? Did you try turning off all your Chrome/Brave extensions off and adding them back one by one?
That reminds me... @ipedro... if you havent, install an adblocker. All the crap on various pages sucks up an incredible amount of resources. You can whitelist work domains, etc. You can also show %GPU as a column which might ID some things...and that's without all the ads and tracking cookies that get loaded.
Not to question their browser habits, but many of them could be turned into on-demand tab groups.I still can't understand how somebody can keep 80 tabs organized. I think I'd go schizophrenic. I doubt all of those tabs have active information continuously that would prevent you from using a link to open them as needed.
I still can't understand how somebody can keep 80 tabs organized. I think I'd go schizophrenic. I doubt all of those tabs have active information continuously that would prevent you from using a link to open them as needed.
Here's a suggestion since you're tied to Chromium and the GPU acceleration (regardless of Chrome/Brave) seems to be eating the machine alive:
Try disabling GPU Acceleration.
How to Turn Hardware Acceleration Off or On in Google Chrome
(I imagine its a similar process in Brave/Edge/etc)
- Launch Chrome, then select “Menu” > “Settings“.
- Scroll down to the bottom and select the “Advanced” option.
- Scroll to the “System” section and toggle “Use hardware acceleration when available” on or off as desired.
Maybe, maybe not, but unless you are regularly, actively switching between all of them have you considered doing them as tab groups instead.8 open windows with 10 tabs each is not unusual.
Great news!!!24hrs after deleting Chrome & Keystone, things definitely seem better. Memory pressure is in the green even after slamming Safari with 60+ tabs across ~12 windows, WindowServer and kernel_task both seem better behaved, and quick look is working fine. It's early days but it seems positive so far
This did cut Brave's memory usage by half, resulting in a bit of a snappier computer overall. Thanks for the the tip.
I can keep 100 tabs open on brave or chrome on my 16gb machine before it bogs down. Safari probably 200-300. Your 32gb machine should handle it fine.Not running any extensions. About 80 tabs. Sounds like a lot, but Apple's top of the line latest pro tier computer shouldn't be brought to its knees in normal use with a browser.
This. And... use bookmarks. UNless you need a site continuously, there's no justification for having it sitting there taking resources and while one site might not be much additional load, 20, 40, 80... can be.Maybe, maybe not, but unless you are regularly, actively switching between all of them have you considered doing them as tab groups instead.
Depends on what site and what they run. And whether or not one has a content (ad) blocker. Between Ka-Block in safari and nextdns at the network level nothing gets through that I don't want to get through.I can keep 100 tabs open on brave or chrome on my 16gb machine before it bogs down. Safari probably 200-300. Your 32gb machine should handle it fine.
Though at some point I declare tab bankruptcy and archive them all into tab groups.