M1 Ultra - for rendering charts!

[tigo013]

If anyone picks up an M1 Ultra, - could you please check to see whether it is capable of rendering stock / currency trading charts continuously - across 2 or more monitors.

I know that the machine is being touted as a creators tool - for photography / videos - but if it can do the charting - then, - amazing!

Based on the review by the verge - commenting on its rendering capability relative to the RTX3090 - - it doesn't fare well. But, if it fares reasonably well next to RTX3070 / 3080. Then, that would be fine too.

 

[ct2k7]

I guess someone will get theirs before me, but in case no one does, ping me… also interested to see if the unit can handle this

 

[JEuro2285]

i trade full-time and use an M1 Mini and that is fine. Studio will be even better

 

[hugodrax]

M1 Mini has no issues rendering live charts from Apps like TD or E*Trade etc..

 

[JEuro2285]

M1 Mini has no issues rendering live charts from Apps like TD or E*Trade etc..

a 10yr old computer wouldnt either. just need some ram

 

[tigo013]

how about rendering from TV? - i'm now feeling more confident with the Ultra

 

[JEuro2285]

ihave 15 charts up at a time on my M1 mini. ill take a screenshot tomorrow. i will say that TOS by TD runs better on Windows though. its not optimized for Silicon

 

[tigo013]

RAM is one thing. But it's about the rendering of the GPU - and running the scripts of the trading program.
Almost every machine out there can display a static image or a video on a monitor, but not every machine can handle the continuious flow of data - rendering - and computing the scripts.

 

[tigo013]

ihave 15 charts up at a time on my M1 mini. ill take a screenshot tomorrow. i will say that TOS by TD runs better on Windows though. its not optimized for Silicon

yes - please, appreciate your thoughts on it.

 

[JEuro2285]

it is def perfectly fine on the M1. i use a 65" TV that has 15 charts up... which platform are you trading with? and whats ur current trading rig?

 

[Lobwedgephil]

RAM is one thing. But it's about the rendering of the GPU - and running the scripts of the trading program.
Almost every machine out there can display a static image or a video on a monitor, but not every machine can handle the continuious flow of data - rendering - and computing the scripts.

Honestly, rendering day trading charts is way overkill for the studio. You could render two full screen 27 in displays with an M1 MacBook Air with no issue. You don't need to Ultras for trading view charts.

 

[tigo013]

Honestly, rendering day trading charts is way overkill for the studio. You could render two full screen 27 in displays with an M1 MacBook Air with no issue. You don't need to Ultras for trading view charts.

day charts are practically static. The Ultra may meet what I need or it may not. I have one on order for delivery in May. A part of me thinks that it'll be an overkill for todays' needs but may be just okay in 3 years time, and another part of thinks it may be okay for todays' needs, and in 3 years time useless.

The macs that I've owned generally last a minimum of 5 years with me. I always overkill when I buy the machine - as it'll be just good enough in the last leg of it's life 4-6 years.

If the Ultra is not an overkill today, then I may just hold-off for the Mac Pro, or just use a PC for charting (which I'd hate). I reckon it's an issue with the software being developed - that it's just a bit sloppy (inflated code that kills the cpu/gpu) given the smaller user base on Macs, and the greater focus on Windows.

I don't know. Keen to hear people's thoughts that use TV across multiple monitors with different chart time frames.

 

[Lobwedgephil]

day charts are practically static. The Ultra may meet what I need or it may not. I have one on order for delivery in May. A part of me thinks that it'll be an overkill for todays' needs but may be just okay in 3 years time, and another part of thinks it may be okay for todays' needs, and in 3 years time useless.

The macs that I've owned generally last a minimum of 5 years with me. I always overkill when I buy the machine - as it'll be just good enough in the last leg of it's life 4-6 years.

If the Ultra is not an overkill today, then I may just hold-off for the Mac Pro, or just use a PC for charting (which I'd hate). I reckon it's an issue with the software being developed - that it's just a bit sloppy (inflated code that kills the cpu/gpu) given the smaller user base on Macs, and the greater focus on Windows.

I don't know. Keen to hear people's thoughts that use TV across multiple monitors with different chart time frames.

Keep the Ultra is you ordered it, the possible Mac Pro will of course be better, but you don't need it. I run 3 27 inch screens using a 2017 iMac, running Tradingview, Bookmap, TOS, and Das Trader in VM Windows and I don't have any issues. My home setup is better, but you don't need what you think you do to day trade.

And for the record, I wasn't talking about daily charts. My trading view charts are 1 min, 13, min, 65, min, and daily. So I cycle between tickers, but use those time frames, and I have about 8 showing at one time, also 3 Bookmap charts, 1 flow.

 

[tigo013]

Keep the Ultra is you ordered it, the possible Mac Pro will of course be better, but you don't need it. I run 3 27 inch screens using a 2017 iMac, running Tradingview, Bookmap, TOS, and Das Trader in VM Windows and I don't have any issues. My home setup is better, but you don't need what you think you do to day trade.

And for the record, I wasn't talking about daily charts. My trading view charts are 1 min, 13, min, 65, min, and daily. So I cycle between tickers, but use those time frames, and I have about 8 showing at one time, also 3 Bookmap charts, 1 flow.

I'll keep the order as it is then. I'm upgrading from a 2018 macbook pro, - with the thought that a desktop will be a better machine than a laptop across the board. cheers

 

[Pressure]

Honestly, rendering day trading charts is way overkill for the studio. You could render two full screen 27 in displays with an M1 MacBook Air with no issue. You don't need to Ultras for trading view charts.

Except the MacBook Air only supports one external monitor. The Mac mini could though.

 

[JEuro2285]

 

[Freida]

Mac Studio for trading charts? Or even Mac Pro?

M1 Mac Mini is totally fine for that and its still overkill.
So maybe get that instead

day charts are practically static. The Ultra may meet what I need or it may not. I have one on order for delivery in May. A part of me thinks that it'll be an overkill for todays' needs but may be just okay in 3 years time, and another part of thinks it may be okay for todays' needs, and in 3 years time useless.

The macs that I've owned generally last a minimum of 5 years with me. I always overkill when I buy the machine - as it'll be just good enough in the last leg of it's life 4-6 years.

If the Ultra is not an overkill today, then I may just hold-off for the Mac Pro, or just use a PC for charting (which I'd hate). I reckon it's an issue with the software being developed - that it's just a bit sloppy (inflated code that kills the cpu/gpu) given the smaller user base on Macs, and the greater focus on Windows.

I don't know. Keen to hear people's thoughts that use TV across multiple monitors with different chart time frames.

 

[JEuro2285]

the M1 is overkill, trust me. i also have about 10 windows in addition to those 15 charts lol. and my M1 only has 16gb of ram. i usually have 2 web browsers open w several tabs, including youtube and everything is good to go.... you can get by with an average PC and just 16gb of Windows memory

 

[macacam]

I'll add my voice to the ultra is overkill choir. You're over buying. Max out the ram on the base model mini and call it a day. In two years or whenver the next mini comes out, buy the new base model with maxed out ram and you'll be fine once again.

 

[LonestarOne]

Honestly, rendering day trading charts is way overkill for the studio. You could render two full screen 27 in displays with an M1 MacBook Air with no issue. You don't need to Ultras for trading view charts.

I don’t know if he’s serious or just pulling our legs.

 

[Freida]

He is probably trolling as otherwise he is crazy if he wants M1 Max for this. I've been doing charts on my old 2017 MBP without any issue for years

I don’t know if he’s serious or just pulling our legs.

 

[tigo013]

Thanks all for the feedback. I'm keeping the order, and glad that it'll be an overkill for charting, as that'll balance out with the other things that I do on the machine! cheers

 

[coachmj]

If anyone picks up an M1 Ultra, - could you please check to see whether it is capable of rendering stock / currency trading charts continuously - across 2 or more monitors.

I know that the machine is being touted as a creators tool - for photography / videos - but if it can do the charting - then, - amazing!

Based on the review by the verge - commenting on its rendering capability relative to the RTX3090 - - it doesn't fare well. But, if it fares reasonably well next to RTX3070 / 3080. Then, that would be fine too.

Hey all, a little late to the party... I'm running on 2 separate pcs. one has 24 gb ram and the other has 32gb. I run Ninjatrader and a 3rd party trading software, feature rich, order flow, etc. along with thinkorswim. i like the new apple m1 platform but can't decide between m1 or m1 ultra. my isp is t-mobile 5g. Neither machines have little to no problems rendering charts. I'd like to stay with a minimum of 32gb which if I understand what apple has to offer means i go with the ultra. The monitors are 1080x1920. I'm not sure if the m1 mac mini with 16gb would be enough hp. Any thoughts? and thanks!

 

[coachmj]

Hey all, a little late to the party... I'm running on 2 separate pcs. one has 24 gb ram and the other has 32gb. I run Ninjatrader and a 3rd party trading software, feature rich, order flow, etc. along with thinkorswim. i like the new apple m1 platform but can't decide between m1 or m1 ultra. my isp is t-mobile 5g. Neither machines have little to no problems rendering charts. I'd like to stay with a minimum of 32gb which if I understand what apple has to offer means i go with the ultra. The monitors are 1080x1920. I'm not sure if the m1 mac mini with 16gb would be enough hp. Any thoughts? and thanks!

I meant to say I'd go with the studio m1 max 32gb.

 

[Freida]

Max is overkill for charts. Mini is more than enough.

Hey all, a little late to the party... I'm running on 2 separate pcs. one has 24 gb ram and the other has 32gb. I run Ninjatrader and a 3rd party trading software, feature rich, order flow, etc. along with thinkorswim. i like the new apple m1 platform but can't decide between m1 or m1 ultra. my isp is t-mobile 5g. Neither machines have little to no problems rendering charts. I'd like to stay with a minimum of 32gb which if I understand what apple has to offer means i go with the ultra. The monitors are 1080x1920. I'm not sure if the m1 mac mini with 16gb would be enough hp. Any thoughts? and thanks!