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minik

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Still.. thats like 60 days max.
I just got the price list from the vendor and the current MacBook Pro w/M3 Pro is actually cheaper than my M2 Pro. Since my pervious Intel Mac won't run macOS Sonoma officially, I had to ask for whatever MacBook Pro that supported dual displays at that time.
 

lJoSquaredl

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Mar 26, 2012
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If you're using the Max chips or really tax your MBP with 3D/gaming you have a decent reason, but outside that it sounds like most M1/M2 users still feel fine from their machines and ain't budging. Even I was waiting for the M3, but looks like I'd be just as good getting an M2 Pro since there's no black on the M3 MBP anyways, and I'd just get more power/ports/fan for a lower price. (tho slightly lower battery life) Could go M3 Pro, but for just a color and slightly more speed I don't need it doesn't seem worth. (raytracing is cool but I doubt it's gonna do much in League of Legends or WoW)
 

Spotlighter9

macrumors regular
Apr 28, 2021
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A little bit, it's fairly unprecented for two processor bumps like that in one year.. but not enough that I'm about to try and get rid of machine and trade up.
Unprecedented? Perhaps for Apple Silicon...however, it was fairly common prior to 2016 for Apple to bump processors two times a year (e.g., Early, Mid, Late models). I actually think that more frequent revisions makes it easier to just buy when you need and not worry about missing out on new features.
 
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Fomalhaut

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Let down because Apple released a newer model and some here can’t claim to own the latest and greatest? Absurd notion.
Although that may be the case for a few people, it's not the general point I was trying to make about the timing of Apple purchases.

It's great that Apple makes technical advances that raise the bar, but the (understandable) lack of transparency on release dates can be source of some anxiety for purchasers.

I would expect that for a lot of people, possibly the majority who buy a new Mac, it's a major purchase that only happens every few years. Because of this, the timing of releases is an important part of the purchase decision - which is of course why sites like MacRumors exist with buying recommendations.

People just want to feel that they have bought at the right time in the release cycle, so that they get the maximum "perceived value" from their purchase. If you bought an M2 Max, and the M3 Max was released a day after the return window, you are likely feel some regret about your own timing - not Apple's release.

Of course, this "purchase window" is particularly relevant between N and N+1 releases, where you have purchased release "N", but it might have an impact on resale value down the track. If you have advertise some device as "2022 model", then it is likely to have a lower value than the "2023" device, so you don't want to buy at the cusp of the transition from 2022 to 2023 if possible. This is at least one of the reasons why I look at MacRumors when considering a new Mac.

By timing it right, you're also getting a better machine for the next few years of ownership, and that can increase the time after which you feel compelled to buy an upgrade - so it has a real financial impact as well.

What *is* absurd is people who think it's Apple's fault if they release technology when it's ready and not to some arbitrary timeline that should cater to people with the older model who have lost bragging rights at having the latest and greatest.
 

leifp

macrumors 6502a
Feb 8, 2008
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To these and other comments you might consider being a little more sensitive.

I'm lucky enough to be able to afford an upgrade any time I feel like it. That's not the case for everyone. It's not necessarily about being the on bleeding edge of technology, it's about buying a computer that needs to last a long time, and there's no getting around the fact that Apple will drop support for M2-gen earlier than M3-gen. I know that is many years away, but the fact that that someone might have bought an M2 and it JUST out of their return window can sting a little bit. It will also be INSTANTLY worth less than the M3-gen for the same money spent.

I have an M1Pro and it's still crushing it. It two years old and it feels like I'm going to have it for ever - I couldn't be happier with it and I don't care that the M3-series is out because the M1Pro barely breaks a sweat on my workflow. However, I did also just buy an M2 15" Air (had it about 6-weeks) and if the M3 Air comes out before the end of the year, I will feel a little miffed. Not because the laptop suddenly sucks, but it's so soon since I spent all that money and it's now instantly worth less than an M3 when I come to sell in a year or two.
It’s instantly worth less the moment you bought it. Like a car. And like a car, it works just fine for as long as you want/need… in other words luck (got a lemon?), care (do you make sure it’s in good shape with maintenance?), use (is it functional for the tasks assigned it? That RX-7 is a terrible people hauler…), and desire are all bundled together with “can I afford to replace it, assuming I want to?”. And those can each only be answered by a given individual. And has nothing to do with the car or the computer itself…
 

drugdoubles

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Jul 3, 2023
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Those of you who bought M2 MacBook Pro earlier this year, do you feel let down by Apple, considering they released M3 MBP’s so quickly after M2 with noticable performance gains? I don’t think it’s a big deal if M2 performance is enough for you, because after all, there will ne a new chip every year or so. But Apple did release this almost immidiatly after M2 MBP so I can see some people being annoyed by that. What do you think about Apple’s inconsisrent release schedule?

May be M3 Plus in summer 2024 lol xd
 

Basic75

macrumors 68020
May 17, 2011
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Oh no, I purchased a machine that satisfies my requirements and was in my budget but now a better one has been made available, how dare they? Could they not have delayed their innovation to spare my feelings of self worth that are coupled to having the latest computer, not just one that does everything that I need It to?
 

Rob__Mac

macrumors member
Feb 18, 2021
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Although that may be the case for a few people, it's not the general point I was trying to make about the timing of Apple purchases.

It's great that Apple makes technical advances that raise the bar, but the (understandable) lack of transparency on release dates can be source of some anxiety for purchasers.

I would expect that for a lot of people, possibly the majority who buy a new Mac, it's a major purchase that only happens every few years. Because of this, the timing of releases is an important part of the purchase decision - which is of course why sites like MacRumors exist with buying recommendations.

People just want to feel that they have bought at the right time in the release cycle, so that they get the maximum "perceived value" from their purchase. If you bought an M2 Max, and the M3 Max was released a day after the return window, you are likely feel some regret about your own timing - not Apple's release.

Of course, this "purchase window" is particularly relevant between N and N+1 releases, where you have purchased release "N", but it might have an impact on resale value down the track. If you have advertise some device as "2022 model", then it is likely to have a lower value than the "2023" device, so you don't want to buy at the cusp of the transition from 2022 to 2023 if possible. This is at least one of the reasons why I look at MacRumors when considering a new Mac.

By timing it right, you're also getting a better machine for the next few years of ownership, and that can increase the time after which you feel compelled to buy an upgrade - so it has a real financial impact as well.

What *is* absurd is people who think it's Apple's fault if they release technology when it's ready and not to some arbitrary timeline that should cater to people with the older model who have lost bragging rights at having the latest and greatest.
Yeah - just to clarify my own feelings on the matter, I don't feel "let down" - it's great these things are coming. I'm feeling quite confident I won't need to buy a PC to replace my 2019 Mac Pro in a few years time, but yes… if I'd have known M3 was going to be SO much better as a GPU than M2, I think I would've chosen to wait 6 months rather than drop £4k+ when I did.
 

Zanton68

macrumors 6502
Sep 24, 2012
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Those of you who bought M2 MacBook Pro earlier this year, do you feel let down by Apple, considering they released M3 MBP’s so quickly after M2 with noticable performance gains? I don’t think it’s a big deal if M2 performance is enough for you, because after all, there will ne a new chip every year or so. But Apple did release this almost immidiatly after M2 MBP so I can see some people being annoyed by that. What do you think about Apple’s inconsisrent release schedule?
Yep. Had it 3 months. Could have got a higher spec machine for less money if I’d waited a short time.

Here’s hoping all the benchmarks show that the M3s are rubbish 😜
 

hirsthirst

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Nov 3, 2008
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psychologically the branding of M1 / 2 / 3 implies big generational bumps (true or imagined), whilst I’m not sure people really paid as much attention to Intel naming convention.
 

Sami13496

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Jul 25, 2022
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Correct me if I’m wrong but people kinda didn’t care too much about this stuff during Intel era. I mean new chip releases. They were more incremental updates anyway. Or am I mistaken? I don’t really remember since I’ve only owned two Macs, first one was MBA 13 from 2014 and the second one my current MBP 13 from 2019. Maybe it’s just me but I wasn’t too excited or even interested what chip it has inside when I bought it. I just assumed it’s fast enough for me since it’s a new model. Now when we have Apple silicon M chips I’m much more interested 😄 Even though I’m not in the market for new Mac - yet.
 

iSteveo

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Sep 14, 2023
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The part that disappointed me was that they released a new Macbook Pro in less than a year. I bought the M2 Max at the beginning of the year. However, I am ready to purchase a new iPad, the current iPad Pros have been released longer than the Macbook Pro. But they did not release new iPad Pros yet, so I have to wait longer. Hoepfuly NLT than next March and hopefully they will be some nice upgrades to the iPad.
 

Mac Hammer Fan

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Jul 13, 2004
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I think the owners of a M2 Pro shouldn't be disappointed because the M3 Pro is only slightly better than the M2 Pro.
 

Kung

macrumors 6502
Feb 3, 2006
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I think the owners of a M2 Pro shouldn't be disappointed because the M3 Pro is only slightly better than the M2 Pro.

Agreed. Literally the only thing I'm disappointed in, so to speak, is the fact that had I known there'd be a spiffy space black one coming out, I'd have waited a month...but other than that, I'm good.
 
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