NOT with me! I buy on the cheaper side.. MBA or base MBP m3..In that case OP should buy a MBP at $7,200 with M3 Max, 128GB, 8TB or a Mac Studio at $8,800 with M2 Ultra, 192GB, 8TB...if they need the extra 64GB RAM
NOT with me! I buy on the cheaper side.. MBA or base MBP m3..In that case OP should buy a MBP at $7,200 with M3 Max, 128GB, 8TB or a Mac Studio at $8,800 with M2 Ultra, 192GB, 8TB...if they need the extra 64GB RAM
Like I said, people here are inexplicably fetishish on RAM to the point of a cult. In another MBA thread someone just complained and complained about 8GB of RAM not enough. Turned out he owns a Mac Studio so his use case is very different yet he comment on “MBA” topic anyway.Honestly reading the comments on other topics here and a large amount of people slamming the 8 gig really made me second guess my choice. Im hoping to keep using it for years to come.
I am hoping to keep it for at least 5 years or more. I just got rid of my 2015 macbook pro recently so hoping to get that kind of use out of this.
I understand you, but for me, it made me second guess about buying Macs in the future, because M3 MBA 16GB is $3000 in my country (includes tax though) and my rent is $500 and the average net salary is $1200. You can also buy a used car for that money and let alone much better PC.Honestly reading the comments on other topics here and a large amount of people slamming the 8 gig really made me second guess my choice. Im hoping to keep using it for years to come.
Too far over budget sadly.M3 MBA with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage or 1TB if you can afford it.
Good point.Like I said, people here are inexplicably fetishish on RAM to the point of a cult. In another MBA thread someone just complained and complained about 8GB of RAM not enough. Turned out he owns a Mac Studio so his use case is very different yet he comment on “MBA” topic anyway.
These people scare themselves and others to think that 8GB would never work for 5 years. Some even said you can only run a couple of tabs on Chrome with it.
I say let these people spend their hard earned money foolishly (even though theyre thinking it’s very smart) because the poster above is right. When it comes to longevity in term of OS support it doesnt care how many RAM you’re having. It only cares about the generation of chip. If 8Gb M3 is more expensive than 16GB M2 I’ll say go with the latter but it’s the not case so why spend more for previous generation of chip? 🤷🏻♂️
It just doesn’t make any sense. Bad advices.
I don’t see any sign that I won’t be able to use my 8Gb M1 for more than 5 years. Now it’s already 4 years and is still as good for my need as the day I purchased it.
Too far over budget sadly.
But are you really crippling the longevity? As others have said it depends entirely what you are using the machine for. I have a HTPC i built in 2013 that has 8gb of ram and is still running great today for its purpose. Unless you are editing Video or large image files or doing heavy multitasking 8gb of ram is enough and will continue to be enough for many years to come and if you are Doing those heavy tasks then the MBP is probably the correct machine for you anyway due to thermal throttling.For the cost difference, get 16 GB, otherwise you're crippling the longevity of the machine for a relatively minor cost saving.
It's funny, isn't it?! We have folk posting here about their 10 year old MacBooks still in use, and how older versions of macOS are better anyway, yet we're also saying that a brand new computer with the same specifications isn't good enough.But are you really crippling the longevity? As others have said it depends entirely what you are using the machine for. I have a HTPC i built in 2013 that has 8gb of ram and is still running great today for its purpose. Unless you are editing Video or large image files or doing heavy multitasking 8gb of ram is enough and will continue to be enough for many years to come and if you are Doing those heavy tasks then the MBP is probably the correct machine for you anyway due to thermal throttling.
What browser are you using? I used to get that error on Shutterfly using Chrome. When I switched to Safari, I never saw that error again. Not dogging Chrome (use it everyday), I just could never figure out why that error kept happening only on Chrome! My point is that regardless of the message itself, I don't think it's actually a computer RAM issue.Seems like a good thread to pop in my query.
Currently own a 2018 Intel i7 MBP 13" 512GB with 16GB RAM (the highest offered back then)
Nowadays, when I'm on website like X for example, I always get a warning that "this page is consuming too much memory". And Im thinking...huh....why is this happening?
Currently, evaluating a stock M3 MacBook Air 15" w/16GB...and wondering if I'll run into the same issue as
on my Intel MBP w/16GB.
1. Will 16GB on a current M3 MBA machine behave in the same way as 16GB does on a 2018 Intel MBP?
I have to think it will not...but would love some detail as to why.
2. If I were to upgrade the RAM on the M3 MBA to 24GB, what sort of gains would I see?
And would this future proof the machine for a longer period?
I'd say this issue is far more like;y related to the browser than anything else, but that's easy to test simply by using a different browser on the exact same computer and seeing what the result is.Seems like a good thread to pop in my query.
Currently own a 2018 Intel i7 MBP 13" 512GB with 16GB RAM (the highest offered back then)
Nowadays, when I'm on website like X for example, I always get a warning that "this page is consuming too much memory". And Im thinking...huh....why is this happening?
Currently, evaluating a stock M3 MacBook Air 15" w/16GB...and wondering if I'll run into the same issue as
on my Intel MBP w/16GB.
1. Will 16GB on a current M3 MBA machine behave in the same way as 16GB does on a 2018 Intel MBP?
I have to think it will not...but would love some detail as to why.
2. If I were to upgrade the RAM on the M3 MBA to 24GB, what sort of gains would I see?
And would this future proof the machine for a longer period?
Unless you're doing something quite astonishingly RAM intensive, 24 very likely won't give you anything particularly over 16.
You will always gain something by increasing RAM, but since macOS is built around a modular framework, where OS components are loaded as needed rather than by default all the time, it isn't as clear a set of improvements as it would be in Windows. Plus, you're not so much future-proofing for OS improvements as building in an overhead, which once it becomes more typical as a user base, allows for further expansion then.Good to know...I just have this habit of maxing out the RAM when I buy an apple machine.
And I'm not exactly a power user...keep telling myself it is to future proof myself against
upcoming apps and OS upgrades...now with more apps set to embrace AI, I thought 24 may be the way to go.
But are you really crippling the longevity? As others have said it depends entirely what you are using the machine for. I have a HTPC i built in 2013 that has 8gb of ram and is still running great today for its purpose. Unless you are editing Video or large image files or doing heavy multitasking 8gb of ram is enough and will continue to be enough for many years to come and if you are Doing those heavy tasks then the MBP is probably the correct machine for you anyway due to thermal throttling.
It's funny, isn't it?! We have folk posting here about their 10 year old MacBooks still in use, and how older versions of macOS are better anyway, yet we're also saying that a brand new computer with the same specifications isn't good enough.
Somehow, some of the members posting here seem to think that at some point in the near future, an 8Gb model that is perfectly good and workable today, will grind to a mystical halt or explode in an overload of some kind in the future. There really isn't much logic to it.
While it is true that memory requirements go up over time the degree that it affects people is highly dependent on their use case. For someone who does Photo and video Editing or has 100's of tabs open at a time in Safari it is going to affect them more then someone like myself who generally only has 2 or 3 tabs open with a single session of Remote Desktop. For my use case 8gb is borderline overkill, I can assure you it will be more than enough for someone like myself for the lifetime of the machine (if you get a M3) which is 7 years till it stops getting OS updates.Yes.
Memory requirements go up over time as new libraries are written and higher level programming abstractions are used.
CPUs these days spend most of their time idle for most end user tasks. Especially light duty stuff like a MacBook Air will typically be used for.
Cheaping out to save say, 10% of the total BOM cost on a machine you plan to keep long term is not a good idea especially when the baseline spec is borderline in 2024 already.
I am one of those users, thanks. True certainly that on the older systems with less RAM I may be constrained to old (meaning age appropriate) software, but that's not an issue at all. The systems were bought for a purpose, and they still fulfill exactly that.As above, memory requirements go up over time.
Go talk to some users who went with the 4 GB or 2 GB spec on previous models and see how they're doing today.
Running older versions of macOS means you can't stay secure, and give up the ability to run future applications that require new macOS features.
Thing is, if you don't keep up with security updates you're rolling the dice with internet connectivity and not getting your stuff (id, files, etc.) stolen.In that respect it isn't actually true that memory requirements go up over time, because they only do this if the user keeps updating, updating and even more updating the system.
To some extent this is true, but somewhat also not.Thing is, if you don't keep up with security updates you're rolling the dice with internet connectivity and not getting your stuff (id, files, etc.) stolen.
Sure, you might be OK, but personally I'd rather not risk my digital (and therefore financial) life with old unsupported hardware running old unsupported known insecure software.
The risk tradeoff is unacceptable to me. Not keeping current is not an option, and I simply can not recommend anybody pursue that.