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This was going to be my dream machine after a long time of not upgrading. However, the 8/256GB standard, no USB-C accessories, and still charging extra to have Touch ID and a Magic Trackpad really leave a bad taste in my mouth. It seems they just slapped this thing together within the past month, when they had literally two years of planning available.

It should've been 12/320GB, at least for the base model, and 16/512GB for the mid and upper configurations.

They also, at least, could have lowered the price of RAM and SSD upgrades to $100, and not the current stingy price of $200.

I think it would be crazy to imagine they'd go up from 8/256 for the base iMac. Get real. That's plenty for 90% of the regular folks who get an iMac.

It is odd they didn't go USB-C on the accessories yet. I'm annoyed.

Apple is never going to lower the price of RAM and SSD upgrades until it impacts sales, and it hasn't.
 
I still think intel based macs were better machines than M-series Macs. Those machine were more complete with the possibility of boot camp and was more powerful with dedicated graphic card, ability to add ram by ourselves etc.

Nowadays I have the impression Macs computer are targeted towards creators and photo/video editors more than ever or for those who just want a simple computer for their daily workflow. When the time will come when I'll have to change my computer, I'll probably go back to the PC world. The way mac computers are going isn't what I needed anymore.
The irony of this is that Apple markets their new machines for musicians but the recording industry still doesn’t properly support Apple silicon two years into the transition. So many plugins and audio interfaces still require Rosetta to run properly it’s almost a joke. Most musicians don’t use logic or garageband. And to be fair, I don’t think I can blame the audio companies for the delay in supporting Apple silicon natively. They were forced to make the move to Intel in 2006 in much the same way. Apple seems to have no respect for their users or their 3rd-party developers. Shareholders and the almighty dollar win out. No surprise there.
 
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I still think intel based macs were better machines than M-series Macs. Those machine were more complete with the possibility of boot camp and was more powerful with dedicated graphic card, ability to add ram by ourselves etc.

You can think what you like, but this is kind of delusional. It's true you lost boot camp, but it's been years since you could add your own RAM...and only a few designed got to have decent dedicated graphics cards.

Oh and the AS macs are TWICE AS FAST. Come on.
 
I for one is very satisfied with my Studio/Studio Display purchase from last year.
I didn't expect a new iMac 27" to come out at that time, and highly doubted the rumors that have been moving around lately as well.
 
Yup. I have a 27-inch 2019 iMac with i5 9600K chip, 64GB of RAM, a 1TB SSD and 8GB of dedicated video/graphics memory. The fanbois will insist even an M1 chip will wipe the floor with my computer. In some ways that’s true but in other ways, it’s not. Overall, I still consider my machine to be better - and it still takes the latest macOS updates. I’m just going to pass on the new iMac. If an M3 Pro chip were offered, I’d consider it. Now, I need think about whether I’m going to wait for an M3 Pro Mac Mini and pair it with a third-party monitor, save up for an Apple Studio and pair it with a Studio Display… or just leave the ecosystem.
This is your last OS update though. 11 months from now your 2019 will be dropped for new features.

Source: my 2017 was dropped this year.
 
Current iMac feels and looks like a toy. It feels like a very safe bet from Apple.

We don’t want safe though. What happened to Apple being revolutionary?

Give us at least M3 Pro, 27” or even 32” 6k.
 
Current iMac feels and looks like a toy. It feels like a very safe bet from Apple.

We don’t want safe though. What happened to Apple being revolutionary?

Give us at least M3 Pro, 27” or even 32” 6k.

Have you used one for any significant amount of time?

The M series chip is fast, the screen is great, the design is low footprint, the colors are good. If the product is not for you stylistically or you need more power, fine, Apple makes plenty of products that fill your need. But there seems to be an irrational dislike of this particular product.

In terms of the upgrade itself - I plan to upgrade because I want to future proof for RAM and storage - but I don't really *need* to upgrade, because the M1 iMac is pretty great
 
This is your last OS update though. 11 months from now your 2019 will be dropped for new features.

Source: my 2017 was dropped this year.
Yup. So I have another year to think about what I want to do next. Longer, actually, since we both will probably get security updates for another couple of years. Frankly, unless I’m forgetting something, I haven’t used a single new “feature” that Apple has offered over the past two or three years.
 
I'm annoyed they didn't release a mouse, trackpad and keyboard with a USB-C port. Anyone guess how long before Apple changes this? Very soon I will have had my current iMac for 10+ years.
Before the end of 2024. At least in Europe. The common charger law also applies to keyboards and mice.
 
I really dont understand where all this complaining comes from. Do you expect a groundshaking revolutionary product each keynote?
Yes, the prices for the RAM are ober the top, like allways. Thats nothing new.
Whe you rhink the iMac screen is to small, then go for a Mac Studio with bigger Display. Whats the problem?
Complaining about no USB-C for the keyboard or the Mouse??
Why? The cable for loading the stuff comes colormatching with the iMac.
Etc, etc, etc.
I am not a fanboy and I dont line everything Apple does, but I really think the actual lineup has something for every need.
 
I don't consider colors as a regression. Hardware-wise, you could argue that.

It's a sad state that something being colorful deems it for children. When did adults become so f**king boring?
I don’t deem it anything. I just want something that looks awesome. Professional, powerful. I don’t want what looks like a kids toy
 
I guess it’s time for Apple to go back to 2014, offering 4GB of RAM and 64GB of storage, remove Touch ID, Ethernet, USB-A and SD Card slot. At least macOS itself demands 4GB so everyone NEEDS 4GB Of RAM.
Wait, what? No one produces 4GB module in large quantity anymore? Same for 64GB NAND flash? What a bummer.
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Your straw man sprung a leak.

Yes, everyone needs more than 4GB for macOS. Why does EVERYONE need more than 8GB? Not you - EVERYONE.
 
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“Major” decisions to sell down existing inventory before rolling out replacements with a different port? That’s “major”?
The "major" decision I was referring to is the one you mentioned, namely deciding to release new iMacs that don't come with USB-C peripherals, which would mean new mouse, new keyboard, new trackpad plus changes to the iMac itself inside and out, so use whatever adjective you prefer.

My point is that someone who you say is known as the "king of the supply chain" wouldn't be stuck in the position you're describing if he really wanted to switch iMac accessories to USB-C right away. There's no evidence for it and I don't buy it.

It reminds me of another MR thread shortly after the new iPhones were released. Someone here was arguing that Apple had warehouses full of brand new iPhones and they were just not sending them to stores and customers in order to drive up demand. The whole argument was nuts, and I'm not comparing that with what you said except for this: I have to laugh at the many people on MR who claim to know what Apple has stocked up in warehouses, gathering dust.
 
Before the end of 2024. At least in Europe. The common charger law also applies to keyboards and mice.
But only to NEW keyboards & mice. The existing one can be sold as long as it's not changed. "Regardless of their manufacturer, all NEW mobile phones... {etc} will have to be equipped with a USB Type-C port"
 
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Why are you settling? You’re telling Apple they did the right thing. Why are you rewarding them? If there isn’t a Mac alternative that you like well enough, I suggest that you look outside the Apple ecosystem. That’s the only metric the corporate world understands.

Not everyone wants to take the time to learn Linux. Sometimes loosing a few inches off your dream screen really is just the most practical option.
 
Have you used one for any significant amount of time?

The M series chip is fast, the screen is great, the design is low footprint, the colors are good. If the product is not for you stylistically or you need more power, fine, Apple makes plenty of products that fill your need. But there seems to be an irrational dislike of this particular product.

In terms of the upgrade itself - I plan to upgrade because I want to future proof for RAM and storage - but I don't really *need* to upgrade, because the M1 iMac is pretty great
I've got the M1 iMac and it's a really fantastic machine. I have a 27" 5k iMac on my desk at work that doesn't get as much use - the M1 experience is amazingly better.
 
As someone who is using an M2 Pro Mac Mini there is no reason for me to upgrade. A 24 inch imac would be a downgrade from my current 27 inch display and it seems like they will wait until 2025 to make the 27 inch version. These long wait times for essential items I consider to be highly dubious.
 
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As someone who is using an M2 Pro Mac Mini there is no reason for me to upgrade. A 24 inch imac would be a downgrade from my current 27 inch display and it seems like they will wait until 2025 to make the 27 inch version. These long wait times for essential items I consider to be highly dubious.

You already have your essential item - a powerful Mac with a 27" display! When the M3 Pro Mac mini is released, you can upgrade that computer if you want and keep your screen. What is the issue?
 
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Geez that's brutal. Desktop use is definitely a small percentage now, and likely tiny for households (as you mentioned).

I do think for businesses / offices they're quite useful though. I'm in an office with 30+ computers and they're all iMacs. They give such a clean look and they're easy to treat like appliances in a sense - if one fails it's simple to swap it out. I'd hate to lose this option.
It’s better to give everyone laptops - that way nobody needs to be fixed to a desk.

Give every desk a cheap fixed monitor then nobody can complain about needing two screens…

Me personally - I love the 27 inch 5K screens that have been on the bigger iMacs.
 
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It’s better to give everyone laptops
MBP plus StudioDisplay is 6—7K, more if you go for a MaxAS. This is iMacPro-pricing, the 5K, which was plenty fine for AdobeCC, Indesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, some AfterEffects etc... was 4K with solid specs. If you take that x30, it matters. And it might make some CFO decide to opt for Windows-Machines. And not everyone wants to take his work home. I'd agree that there is a market for a 27"/32"-form factor with M3, M3Pro, maybe M3 Max, somewhere between Mini and Studio and as an alternative to MBP. If it were a lite and small and sexy as the iMac24 is, I would love to see some of those machines on our desks :-D
 
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(Because that's the thing, if you lift the iMac24 up, you just do not believe how light the 3,5kg ist in respect to the size. Scale that WOW-effect to 27" and it will be a really fun machine. And the parts are all there... Apple has the 5K displays, the stands, the SoC... everything. It's not even an expensive new idea...)
 
Read back your sentence about the Apple Pencil, it’s so fragmented and confusing. Why should there be some “low cost” option? It’s like seeing the Microsoft leak about the mid-gen series x refresh… that comes with a less robust power supply and no disc drive. It’s all downgrades.
There are two reasons for the confusion. The iPad’s forced transition to USBC—that will cause some necessary awkwardness, but it’s temporary. And the fact that Apple delayed the release of the cheaper USBC Pencil. Had everything remained Lightning and had Apple released the cheaper Pencil at the same time as the (flagship) Pencil 2, then it would have been clear that Apple was simply offering two tiers—a more expensive fully featured Pencil, and a cheaper less featured Pencil.
Companies have low cost versions because some people want to save money and don’t need all the features.
If the series x refresh is an option, not a replacement, and offered at a lower price, then it’s not a downgrade, just a cheaper additional option.

The intel iMacs had boot camp, user replaceable ram. Bigger screen, sleek expensive aesthetic. You weren’t SO locked into what you order. These new iMacs are a step back in design and usability. Ok sure maybe faster on thread count. But they’re basically iPads that run macOS. It’s awful.

Not all design is subjective. The new iMacs look like kid toys. Pastel colors, white bezel, minimal connections. The old ones looked like serious designs. Steel grey and black, striking, lots of ports.

The new ones are clearly designed for young startup type that wear glasses with clear frames, don’t do very hard or important work, and don’t know any better. Apple used to represent the Lamborghini of computers. You had an iMac you knew what you were doing. Now it’s just silly childish looking
You’re definitely entitled to your set of values. But different people have different values, and I don’t think it’s great to belittle those who don’t share yours.
 
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