So the thinner, lighter, much faster, much better display, cooler, longer battery life, improved pencil, improved Magic Keyboard and the sound ~might~ be a little less. So that convinces you to return an iPad? That seems like a lot of waste for an odd decision, to me.
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iPad Pro M4 iPad Pro 11” 3-day use impressions (performance, heat, PWM and others)
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I usually use my 11" in portrait mode most of the time and I usually don't even notice that the camera used with FaceID moved. My iPad is usually on a stand so there's nothing blocking it.
I’m doing exactly what you mention but I use the right bezel to support my hand while pushing the lock button, which is the way I did it before (which is more natural in my opinion). Now I try to push the button from behind, which helps. It’s still annoying. It’s still my main complain still.
Other thing I realized is that the screen performance degrades a lot on low light conditions and with brightness of 25%-30%. Text starts to be less sharp, loosing the “retina” feeling. It can be ”fixed” increasing the brightness, but not ideal on low light conditions. Anyone saw something similar?
Never used keyboard or pencil, have had every iPad since day dot, wasn’t that impressed going from M1 to M4 11”
Maybe to a 13”.
Brighter screen is an improvement. Battery similar and speed not that noticeable.
Never had heat issues with our 2 x 11” 2018 and M1.
the verdict is not out on oled too.
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I appreciate it. I did get the 11" myself. It was just nice to see posts about the little brother since the big brother is getting all the attention.I have the 11” M4, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask
I've been using the 11" with magic keyboard in 'laptop mode' a lot these days. Now whenever I go back to using my 16" MBP, for the first time ever it feels like it's too big, like I've got a TV on my lap. Insane really, I thought 15/16" was 'just right' if not too small for the longest time. Once these tandem OLEDs come to the 16" MBP we will enter a new era of Heaven on Earth. The tandem OLED on iPad is the best display I've ever used.
Maybe I'm still in my honeymoon phase but I really like using this smaller 11" iPad (I'm a long time 12.9" user). I really can't see myself without an 11" iPad now. I enjoy it more than Apple Vision Pro.
Maybe I'm still in my honeymoon phase but I really like using this smaller 11" iPad (I'm a long time 12.9" user). I really can't see myself without an 11" iPad now. I enjoy it more than Apple Vision Pro.
Yeah, for me it’s always been the maximum enjoyable size for a tablet. Especially if you want to enjoy it on the move, like me.
I would say, the ideal tablet size for me, is between 10 and 11”
I would say, the ideal tablet size for me, is between 10 and 11”
That's actually exactly how I felt with my 12.9" that I ended up exchanging it for an 11". I used those exact words of "it felt like having a TV in my lap".
Alright, now I can finally give my opinion after having purchased it, and comparing it against my M2 iPad Pro.
One of the features, if not THE feature, that made me pull the trigger and spend 1k€, was the improved microphone array, as I use the integrated microphones A LOT. Judging by what I saw and heard on some YouTube reviews, the M4 microphone system sounded way clearer, at least during the video-calling test. I don’t use them for video calls but rather for raw recordings and, to my surprise, the differences are minimal in this context.
The screen, oh yes, the OLED screen offers such true blacks that make you see your old LCD look kinda grey. And color reproduction is a bit better than the LCD iPad Pro, especially from angles (I didn’t expect that, because OLED iPhone usually have such bad angles that, if you aren’t looking from the front, the screen looks greenish).
However, during the first two days, it gave me the usual PWM sensitivity symptoms: nausea, headache, itchy red eyes, and blurred vision. The third day the symptoms were less severe but still uncomfortable. Maybe after an extended period my eyes get used to it, or maybe not. Is it worth the effort though? In my opinion, not in my case. The LCD from my M2 iPP is already very good, with Pro-Motion, and very comfortable to look at.
The weight reduction, even on the 11” model, is noticeable. Just for that, I would switch to the new model, if I didn’t have the eye sensitivity to OLED screens. It feels well built just like the previous model and with the reduced weight and the slightly narrower screen form factor (in portrait), plus the center camera and two or three ambient light sensors, make this a really compelling -although overpriced- tablet.
That said, I’m most likely returning it, and either keeping my M2 iPad Pro, or selling it to get the 1TB/16GB version of this same M2 iPP if I catch any good deal. Why? This is probably the last high end iPad with an LCD display. I thought the microphone array in the M4 was vastly superior to the M2 model. According to my tests, they aren’t. And the itchy sore eyes, the light nausea and the headaches are just not worth it. Sure, the 6 efficiency cores really make the M4 model cool, silky smooth and snappy even in low power mode. But, in my opinion, it isn’t worth the drawbacks I’m suffering from the OLED technology.
If you want me to perform any side-by-side comparison of both iPad Pro, just let me know!
PS: in case anyone is wondering, I chose the Space Black one, way darker than my Space Grey M2 iPad Pro, and I absolutely love it, despite being more prone to fingerprints and smudges. I would choose the black one again in a heartbeat.
One of the features, if not THE feature, that made me pull the trigger and spend 1k€, was the improved microphone array, as I use the integrated microphones A LOT. Judging by what I saw and heard on some YouTube reviews, the M4 microphone system sounded way clearer, at least during the video-calling test. I don’t use them for video calls but rather for raw recordings and, to my surprise, the differences are minimal in this context.
The screen, oh yes, the OLED screen offers such true blacks that make you see your old LCD look kinda grey. And color reproduction is a bit better than the LCD iPad Pro, especially from angles (I didn’t expect that, because OLED iPhone usually have such bad angles that, if you aren’t looking from the front, the screen looks greenish).
However, during the first two days, it gave me the usual PWM sensitivity symptoms: nausea, headache, itchy red eyes, and blurred vision. The third day the symptoms were less severe but still uncomfortable. Maybe after an extended period my eyes get used to it, or maybe not. Is it worth the effort though? In my opinion, not in my case. The LCD from my M2 iPP is already very good, with Pro-Motion, and very comfortable to look at.
The weight reduction, even on the 11” model, is noticeable. Just for that, I would switch to the new model, if I didn’t have the eye sensitivity to OLED screens. It feels well built just like the previous model and with the reduced weight and the slightly narrower screen form factor (in portrait), plus the center camera and two or three ambient light sensors, make this a really compelling -although overpriced- tablet.
That said, I’m most likely returning it, and either keeping my M2 iPad Pro, or selling it to get the 1TB/16GB version of this same M2 iPP if I catch any good deal. Why? This is probably the last high end iPad with an LCD display. I thought the microphone array in the M4 was vastly superior to the M2 model. According to my tests, they aren’t. And the itchy sore eyes, the light nausea and the headaches are just not worth it. Sure, the 6 efficiency cores really make the M4 model cool, silky smooth and snappy even in low power mode. But, in my opinion, it isn’t worth the drawbacks I’m suffering from the OLED technology.
If you want me to perform any side-by-side comparison of both iPad Pro, just let me know!
PS: in case anyone is wondering, I chose the Space Black one, way darker than my Space Grey M2 iPad Pro, and I absolutely love it, despite being more prone to fingerprints and smudges. I would choose the black one again in a heartbeat.
Populus, sorry to hear about your PWM issues it sucks i know but did you not turn off Auto brightness, and set brightness manually to 50%? This resolved my PWM headaches and some other members on MR, although of course it does not work for everyone.
Yes reducing the white point and raising the brightness makes it easier to use, but its not worth the hassle. Maybe for the next iPad Pro