iPad Pro M4 iPad Pro Optimized Charging

[yegon]

Yeah. It would hurt me to sell it for even that price tbh. I cascaded mine to a lucky family member.

 

[mpetrides]

I agree for phones, but Apple dont replace iPad batteries very easily, at least here in the UK. My 5.5 year old 2018 iPP has a terribly battery, yet Apple claim it is >80% health wise and so won’t replace it. Conversely, I could walk in with my 90% battery health on my iPhone and they would replace it on the spot. They want nothing to do with iPads which is a shame as my 2018 iPP is great otherwise and i’m not going near a third party.

What exactly are you saying? I think you are saying that in real world use your battery drains unacceptably quickly, yet Apple claims the battery is OK because their app says it has >80% health. Is that right?

If so, I have several questions for you because I also have a 2018 12.9 inch iPad Pro that I keep AppleCare on partly so I don't have to worry about the battery. I tend to keep that iPP plugged in 24/7/365 and have done so for several years, so I really don't have a sense of how long the battery lasts.

1. Is this under Apple Care or if you are willing to pay for the replacement out of pocket?
2. How long does your iPad run on battery before the battery dies?

Thanks for enlightening me.

 

[AlexJaye]

It's interesting to me to see people embracing this "solution". The limit is for people neurotic about their battery health, so to maintain battery health, they live with a device that exhibits the functionality of a badly degraded battery. Makes no sense to me. I have always used my devices and enjoy them. When the battery needs replacing, I replace the battery.

It’s an OPTION. Keeping a battery at 100% endlessly will ruin it.

Anytime you need 100% you can turn the OPTION off.

 

[Isengardtom]

I have it on and have seen it charge to 100 about 3 times so far

 

[Fuzzball84]

I find that even though I have the 80% limit turned on for my 15pm, it’ll charge to 100% once or twice per week to calibrate. I’d imagine it’s the same with the m4ipps.

I doubt it’s charging to 100 percent twice a week for calibration. More likely it’s algorithms are thinking your usage history suggests charging to 100 percent is optimal.

A li ion battery doesn’t need calibrating that often at all unless you’re really abusing it.

 

[Abazigal]

With the new M4 iPad Pro, you have the ability to set the charging limit To 80%. For those who have had the M4 for a month, has this feature worked consistently for you, and have you noticed it charging to 100% occasionally, Ike the iPhone does under the same settings?

I wish we have the ability to use an app like AlDente Pro with iPads.

Once when I was charging it via the Magic Keyboard’s charging port. But every other time, it has consistently stopped at 80%.

 

[TechnoMonk]

It’s an OPTION. Keeping a battery at 100% endlessly will ruin it.

Anytime you need 100% you can turn the OPTION off.

Ruin it? Sounds bit paranoid.

 

[TechnoMonk]

I doubt it’s charging to 100 percent twice a week for calibration. More likely it’s algorithms are thinking your usage history suggests charging to 100 percent is optimal.

A li ion battery doesn’t need calibrating that often at all unless you’re really abusing it.

This. My MBP does something similar based on my patterns. I usually work from home or travel, I have noticed when I move around my Mac goes to 100%. I appreciate 100% charge on the move. It does no good at 80% with a dying battery.

 

[Jackbequickly]

I have my 13” limited to 80% from day one. It has charged to 100% for calibration one time.

 

[Chevyguy2021]

I’m gonna try it to see how it goes, then on vacation/ travel I can charge to 100 as needed

 

[AlexJaye]

Ruin it? Sounds bit paranoid.

Before Apple introduced charging limits, my older Apple devices batteries used to run down very quickly. It has been a noticeable change. My Macs used to do the same before I discovered Aldente.

 

[Jackbequickly]

At most, charging to 100% will slightly shorten your battery life.

 

[citivolus]

What I don’t understand is how does Apple justify bringing this feature only to the M4 iPad Pros when it could easily be supported by at least the prior generation, since iPhones have had this capability for even longer?

 

[Apple_Robert]

What I don’t understand is how does Apple justify bringing this feature only to the M4 iPad Pros when it could easily be supported by at least the prior generation, since iPhones have had this capability for even longer?

Apple will probably roll out to other iPads after the release of iOS 18. I believe they did the same thing with the phone.

 

[gusping]

What exactly are you saying? I think you are saying that in real world use your battery drains unacceptably quickly, yet Apple claims the battery is OK because their app says it has >80% health. Is that right?

If so, I have several questions for you because I also have a 2018 12.9 inch iPad Pro that I keep AppleCare on partly so I don't have to worry about the battery. I tend to keep that iPP plugged in 24/7/365 and have done so for several years, so I really don't have a sense of how long the battery lasts.

1. Is this under Apple Care or if you are willing to pay for the replacement out of pocket?
2. How long does your iPad run on battery before the battery dies?

Thanks for enlightening me.

Hey, sorry for the slow response. Your first sentence is correct. It's a widespread 'issue' that Apple refuses to replace your battery if you don't have AppleCare. It's mentioned here from time to time and on places like r/Apple and r/iPad. My iPad battery is probably half what it is was at launch, so 4-5 hours depending on usage. It is a 5.5 year old device, so i'm not moaning about the battery condition worsening itself, rather Apple refusing to replace it despite their website suggesting it is possible. Oh well....

 

[jazz1]

Hey, sorry for the slow response. Your first sentence is correct. It's a widespread 'issue' that Apple refuses to replace your battery if you don't have AppleCare. It's mentioned here from time to time and on places like r/Apple and r/iPad. My iPad battery is probably half what it is was at launch, so 4-5 hours depending on usage. It is a 5.5 year old device, so i'm not moaning about the battery condition worsening itself, rather Apple refusing to replace it despite their website suggesting it is possible. Oh well....

Are you saying I can’t just buy the battery replacement service from Apple without AppleCare? They did replace my spouse’s old iPad for around $137.00. To be more specific they kept her’s and sent a refurbished iPad With a new battery. We live in the USA by the way.

 

[AVBeatMan]

Just created a new thread for this before I found this one…but,

If you have it set to the 80% can you top up the battery (to the 80%) through the day or is it better to let it drop down to say, 20%?

 

[Analog Kid]

If it never charges to 100%, how is it supposed to know what 80% is?

 

[mpetrides]

Hey, sorry for the slow response. Your first sentence is correct. It's a widespread 'issue' that Apple refuses to replace your battery if you don't have AppleCare. It's mentioned here from time to time and on places like r/Apple and r/iPad. My iPad battery is probably half what it is was at launch, so 4-5 hours depending on usage. It is a 5.5 year old device, so i'm not moaning about the battery condition worsening itself, rather Apple refusing to replace it despite their website suggesting it is possible. Oh well....

I'm sorry you are encountering that problem. ☹️ It makes no sense not to "allow" someone to purchase replacement battery service. Why would they care so long as you are willing to pay for the replacement, be it a replacement battery or a replacement refurbished unit, like @jazz1 was able to get.

That said, it looks like I'll be keeping AppleCare on my 2018 iPP until AAPL decides not to let me do so.

 

[Analog Kid]

I find that even though I have the 80% limit turned on for my 15pm, it’ll charge to 100% once or twice per week to calibrate. I’d imagine it’s the same with the m4ipps.

Charging to 80% 100% of the time is bad for the battery. You only want to charge to 80% 60% of the time.

 

[gusping]

Are you saying I can’t just buy the battery replacement service from Apple without AppleCare? They did replace my spouse’s old iPad for around $137.00. To be more specific they kept her’s and sent a refurbished iPad With a new battery. We live in the USA by the way.

Correct. Apple test my iPad and claim the battery health is above 80% and so i cannot pay £115 for a new battery.

 

[TechnoMonk]

Before Apple introduced charging limits, my older Apple devices batteries used to run down very quickly. It has been a noticeable change. My Macs used to do the same before I discovered Aldente.

Never had issues of using Apple devices for almost 3 decades. There are too many variables to worry about charging limits. Ironically, in my experience I know folks with deteriorate batteries faster than mine, who are paranoid about 80%.

 

[AlexJaye]

I

Never had issues of using Apple devices for almost 3 decades. There are too many variables to worry about charging limits. Ironically, in my experience I know folks with deteriorate batteries faster than mine, who are paranoid about 80%.

l’ll continue to trust my experience and the recommendations of people who work with this tech. 70-90% is much better for most modern batteries versus 100% SOC all the time.

 

[TechnoMonk]

I

l’ll continue to trust my experience and the recommendations of people who work with this tech. 70-90% is much better for most modern batteries versus 100% SOC all the time.

That’s all good, I was referring to the word ruin it. Hyperbole much!!

 

[JemTheWire]

What I don’t understand is how does Apple justify bringing this feature only to the M4 iPad Pros when it could easily be supported by at least the prior generation, since iPhones have had this capability for even longer?

I dare say that Apple could back-port the 80% charging limit if they chose to. However, I think they withhold such options to give a greater incentive for folk to buy a device that does have the facility. It can be seen a marketing ploy.