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Its a bit harsh to say people buy power for status rather than Utility. In the case of the BMW M series, people like the power for sure but its actually the vehicle handling thats special not the power. With mobile devices, most people prefer more power for that extra buffer and future proofing for later.
With the smart shockers/suspensions now used, M drivers hardly use the two higher handling modes. For me, i loved the E-46 M coupe. No adjustable shocks though. That motor was fabulous IMO, everything about it except the service schedules. When BMW went to solid tyres, for a short time the M series rode better - because they continued to use pneumatic tyres. But they still didn't handle roads that were not smooth. Or speed bumps.

As for future proofing - its certainly an issue, but for notebooks, its really about RAM with a macbook and the CPU generation and also, when the computer was sold. And Apple doesn't supersede based on processors. They supersede based on introduction dates. A case in point is the Mac Pro 7,1, and some notebooks, with intel CPUS, that were removed from support not due to CPUs but due to the sales date of that architecture.

I think its better to pay less and get a year old model because the substantial savings will result in a more contemporary replacement in shorter period of time - from a financial perspective.

Some though, like sparksd, will get full value out of their purchase. Others will love the screen, as its fabulous. But for many, the extra abilities are overkill. For instance, many satisfied iPad users used their Pros for several years, despite not having camera ID or pro microphones. I still think an Air with a duel OLED would have sold many more iPads and reduced Pro sales - because to me at least, the screen on the M4 is a real reason to upgrade.

But if one wants future proof by adding RAM and drive capacity - for most that is waste of money. And the thing that kills an iPad is actually its battery, and the iPad is being superseded when Apple refuses to replace the iPad's battery (despite Apple charging the user quite a bit for that "privilege"). When that happens people should get a third party to replace the iPad's battery (or do it oneself but its a big job). But instead people will use it connected more and more to a power cord, and eventually the wear and tear on the connection causes the iPad to no longer accept a charge. That's when its actually superseded. Way way before IOS support or functionality stops due to the CPU etc being a cause. IMO its the reason iPads have not increased their battery endurance much at all, while other Apple devices like phones and computers have increased their endurance by significant amounts.
 
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My response to the reviewers - "So what?".
that’s fair but the question i got was “where is the widespread consensus” and i’m sorry all reviewers are in consensus.

I won’t post to this thread anymore because it’s gotten really testy. But I think no need for people to feel so attacked as if we won’t all benefit if apple takes ipad more seriously, as if ipad is a perfect operating system. every youtuber i’ve seen that self-professes to use ipad day to day always has the phrase “you have to learn how to use iPad to fit your use case” somewhere in the review. sorry that’s not the intuitive and easy to use OS most people want ipad to be

and it certainly is completley unreasonable pricing for apple to charge ipad users 1,600 to buy back into the ecosystem with the m4 upgrade.
 
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that’s fair but the question i got was “where is the widespread consensus” and i’m sorry all reviewers are in consensus.

I won’t post to this thread anymore because it’s gotten really testy. But I think no need for people to feel so attacked as if we won’t all benefit if apple takes ipad more seriously, as if ipad is a perfect operating system. every youtuber i’ve seen that self-professes to use ipad day to day always has the phrase “you have to learn how to use iPad to fit your use case” somewhere in the review. sorry that’s not the intuitive and easy to use OS most people want ipad to be

and it certainly is completley unreasonable pricing for apple to charge ipad users 1,600 to buy back into the ecosystem with the m4 upgrade.

Unreasonable? It's a discretionary buy - you don't have to buy it - and as with any other product, the vendor will charge what they think the market will bear with the highest rate of return, the goal being to maximize profit.
 
Yes - the facts are that the base iPad is very cheap IMO. The Air IMO is just about as good as the Pro, but its screen while very good, is far inferior for lovers of colour and gamut etc. Is the Pro good value? I would say yes for those who want a great screen and I guess for those who will use it a lot. Otherwise save your money.
 
Crappy ass Remarkable Pro = $600
M4 iPad Pro = $999

The iPad Pro is so bad and so overpriced.
 
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Never? You bought a device that will be obsolete and out of support in a year or two. For a device that is almost 4 years old, 650 is a lot. Meanwhile I made lot of money using my M1 iPad Pro. Several times more than what I paid. If you are using iPad to watch YouTube videos I get it. It’s a toy for you.

A little over a month later, for some reason, Apple is selling the USED equivalent of my M1 iPad Pro for $1700, and that's without the Pencil or keyboard. Or rather, they would be selling it if they had one in stock.

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For an iPad that will be obsolete three years sooner than my newest one, this price is insane to me.

Even with the lower specs, $650 for the same size/generation of iPad sounds like a steal.
 
Ipad is like a car without wheels with the ipados. Useless ar best but u can watch movies in it.
I disagree, I use my iPad way more than my MacBook Air. If I could go back, I’d purchase a iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard instead of my MacBook Air. I can get by with iPad os as a computer and actually prefer it over Mac OS. It’s definitely more versatile for me. Also, Apple Music is better on iPad and there’s no Apple fitness + app on Mac OS. I subscribe to both of those services and use them daily.
 
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