Matte displays are hideous. I'd take reflections over an ugly display any day.
All the films you watch are edited and graded on matte displays. When you go to the cinema you are watching an image projected onto a matte surface.
Matte displays are hideous. I'd take reflections over an ugly display any day.
As much as my eyes are on an 16" MacBook Pro M4 Pro, I will not be baited!While you won't be the first to "review" a unit, you can always buy / return one once they go on sale to test it out at home yourself for up to 14 days (longer during the holidays).
You'd also be helping out those who prefer to buy a discounted refurbished unit get one quicker.![]()
Wasn’t this nano texture a big flop last time around? On the iPad no reviewer liked it. And now they all seem to love it?
Either the texture changed, or the reviewers are a bunch of idiots. Probably both.
My next MBP will have a Nano texture glass, although I'm not planning to update my M3 until the M7, after the M6 redesign
The first wave of reviews of Apple's new M4-powered MacBook Pro models were published this morning. We've collected some of the latest impressions from YouTube channels and select media outlets below.
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Apple last month announced the new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models, adding next-generation M4, M4 Pro, and M4 Max chips, with Thunderbolt 5 ports on higher-end models, display and camera changes, a nano-texture display option, and a few other updates.
Nano-texture Display
The Verge's Antonio G. Di Benedetto:
TechCrunch's Brian Heater:
Six Color's Jason Snell:M4 Performance
The Verge's Antonio G. Di Benedetto:
ZDNet's Kerry Wan:
TechRadar's Lance Ulanoff:
According to multi-core CPU performance Geekbench results for the M4 Pro and for the M4 Max, the highest-end variants of the M4 Pro and M4 Max are both able to outperform the highest-end M2 Ultra chip in the Mac Studio and Mac Pro, which is impressive. Specifically, the M4 Max is up to 25% faster than the M2 Ultra in terms of peak multi-core CPU performance.
For customers choosing between the M4 Pro and M4 Max, the M4 Max appears to be up to 20% faster than the M4 Pro in terms of peak multi-core CPU performance. The M4 Max is now the fastest Apple silicon chip in the Geekbench 6 database.
Upgraded Webcam
The Verge's Antonio G. Di Benedetto:
Engadget's Devindra Hardawar:Apple also upgr... Click here to read rest of article
Article Link: M4 MacBook Pro Reviews: Processor Benchmarks Impress, New Nano-Texture Option Worth the Extra $150
These reviewers aren't known for their in depth reviews, it's more like Apple fan club, I'm a fan as well, but I rarely watch their reviews, for a product I want to buyUnfortunately, the "something just slithered up my pants and I'm not sure if I should be horrified... or intrigued" expression is an industry standard amongst YouTubers and snake oil salesmen at this point. 🐍
Facial expressions aside, the real issue is how shallow some of the reviews are. I'm probably still going to order one of these laptops though. 👀
Probably, because most of us with MBP already get 1000 nits in SDR through the vivid appNo one’s actually talking about the extra brightness display
So they are. Matte displays are still ugly and I still hate them just the same.All the films you watch are edited and graded on matte displays. When you go to the cinema you are watching an image projected onto a matte surface.
I’d be curious just how different the matte finish is from the one you have. Did you see it already on the new iPad Pro when it came out?I'm still using an ancient 17" MBP (thanks OCLP) primarily because it has the old matte screen option.
If the new nano texture display is that good, I might finally upgrade.
I’ve used an iPad Pro with the nano texture screen. It was gorgeous. The screens these days are so high fidelity and high contrast that it still looks great with the bonus of being able to use them comfortably in bright sunlight. Same can be said of glossy.Matte screens are great but they should not come at the expense to color fidelity or sharpness especially if you're paying a $150 up charge.
When I first laid eyes on the Space Black MBP last year I had to have it! I wasn't even planning to upgrade, let alone for a color, but I did. And now I have my M3 Max MBP 14 listed for sale and thinking to switch to an M4 Pro Mini and MacBook Air 15. I am over the Space Black and tired of taking my watch off and being extra careful when inserting cables to avoid scratching the finish. I'm going back to classic silver next round. My silver 2015 rMBP 13 held up phenomenally well after almost 10 years.It's cool that even the base M4 MBP now has Space Black. I really like that color when I've seen it in the store. (The whole lineup is too rich for my blood.)
They had dedicated laptop reviewers. Guess Voxx is circling down the drainWait so someone that does stuff besides video editing worked on the review? That's amazing!
100% accurate. I also have a white dog. That sheds. It is not pretty. If you live in a pristine environment like an Apple commercial, def get it. If not, I recommend silver.When I first laid eyes on the Space Black MBP last year I had to have it! I wasn't even planning to upgrade, let alone for a color, but I did. And now I have my M3 Max MBP 14 listed for sale and thinking to swap to an M4 Pro Mini and MacBook Air 15. I am over the Space Black and tired of taking my watch off and being extra careful when inserting cables to avoid scratching the finish. I'm going back to classic silver next round. My silver 2015 rMBP 13 held up phenomenally well after almost 10 years.
Lessons learned:
1) Don't fall in love with a color
2) Don't buy the high-end Mac. Should have listened to posters that recommended buying base or mid-tier and upgrading more regularly when major changes come. When you buy high-end you feel forced to keep it longer and the depreciation curve is steeper.
Oh well, live and learn.![]()
🦷I sincerely hope that one day iJustine finds her bottom teeth.
How? A matte surface is a surface which scatters light. This is fundamentally incompatible with achieving high contrast.What is "flop last time around"? That's not a thing that ever happened.
We have been waiting for wide gamut matte displays to have support for high contrast ratios at consumer/prosumer prices. They are the highest standard in professional colour work and cinema grading is done with them.
Once the contrast is high enough and the price is low enough then all this reflective glass thing will be a thing of the past. The next big upgrade cycles between now and 2030 will come from generative AI requiring lots of memory....and matte displays. There will be no more glossy displays in the 2030s and people will be so happy they are gone.
How? A matte surface is a surface which scatters light. This is fundamentally incompatible with achieving high contrast.
Everything is “it’s soooooo cute, it’s soooooo super awesome” (swish hair)🦷
I want dark Justine. Maybe throw legit criticism at apple some time.
Aside that she’s had a good career. He is getting old. If you look at her hands she’s probably in her 40s?
I agree that matte displays have their advantages and for some people the tradeoff is absolutely worth it. Your original statement however was worded as an assertion that *nobody* will want anything different, and this just isn't the case. There are real fundamental downsides. Brushing off other people's preferences as marketing-induced stupidity is just ignorant.You can see the youtube reviews for how good the contrast is face on and it will improve still. At a steep angle the contrast falls off but who the **** cares about that. When you see one of these new Macs in person you are going to immediately forget about glossy displays.
Super high contrast specs have been burned into your brain by marketing for televisions and stupidly that leaked over into computing. You don't need crazy high contrast to view an image, read a text or watch a movie. There's point where it becomes overdone for each case.
It's no different from car makers bragging about their 200 miles per hour top speed that you can't legally achieve or even need.
Haven`t studied the benchmarks yet and I don`t believe I have to. This site I visit occasionally published a story referring to a Techspot piece reporting on performance compared with some stuff from Intel and AMD including the minor issues the cool Intel cats are experiencing with their ovens.M4 Performance
The Verge's Antonio G. Di Benedetto:
ZDNet's Kerry Wan:
TechRadar's Lance Ulanoff:
According to multi-core CPU performance Geekbench results for the M4 Pro and for the M4 Max, the highest-end variants of the M4 Pro and M4 Max are both able to outperform the highest-end M2 Ultra chip in the Mac Studio and Mac Pro, which is impressive. Specifically, the M4 Max is up to 25% faster than the M2 Ultra in terms of peak multi-core CPU performance.
For customers choosing between the M4 Pro and M4 Max, the M4 Max appears to be up to 20% faster than the M4 Pro in terms of peak multi-core CPU performance. The M4 Max is now the fastest Apple silicon chip in the Geekbench 6 database.
You think she’s had some work done?Everything is “it’s soooooo cute, it’s soooooo super awesome” (swish hair)
And yes, her hands are a giveaway.
You think she’s had some work done?