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While you won't be the first to "review" a unit, you can always buy / return one once they go on sale to test it out at home yourself for up to 14 days (longer during the holidays).

You'd also be helping out those who prefer to buy a discounted refurbished unit get one quicker. ;)
As much as my eyes are on an 16" MacBook Pro M4 Pro, I will not be baited! :)
 
Impressive! Hopefully I’ll find a use case to upgrade my 16 inch M1Max 64gb.
 
Wasn’t this nano texture a big flop last time around? On the iPad no reviewer liked it. And now they all seem to love it?
Either the texture changed, or the reviewers are a bunch of idiots. Probably both.

What is "flop last time around"? That's not a thing that ever happened.

We have been waiting for wide gamut matte displays to have support for high contrast ratios at consumer/prosumer prices. They are the highest standard in professional colour work and cinema grading is done with them.

Once the contrast is high enough and the price is low enough then all this reflective glass thing will be a thing of the past. The next big upgrade cycles between now and 2030 will come from generative AI requiring lots of memory....and matte displays. There will be no more glossy displays in the 2030s and people will be so happy they are gone.
 


The first wave of reviews of Apple's new M4-powered MacBook Pro models were published this morning. We've collected some of the latest impressions from YouTube channels and select media outlets below.

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Apple last month announced the new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models, adding next-generation M4, M4 Pro, and M4 Max chips, with Thunderbolt 5 ports on higher-end models, display and camera changes, a nano-texture display option, and a few other updates.

Nano-texture Display

The Verge's Antonio G. Di Benedetto:
TechCrunch's Brian Heater:
Six Color's Jason Snell:M4 Performance

The Verge's Antonio G. Di Benedetto:
ZDNet's Kerry Wan:
TechRadar's Lance Ulanoff:
According to multi-core CPU performance Geekbench results for the M4 Pro and for the M4 Max, the highest-end variants of the M4 Pro and M4 Max are both able to outperform the highest-end M2 Ultra chip in the Mac Studio and Mac Pro, which is impressive. Specifically, the M4 Max is up to 25% faster than the M2 Ultra in terms of peak multi-core CPU performance.

For customers choosing between the M4 Pro and M4 Max, the M4 Max appears to be up to 20% faster than the M4 Pro in terms of peak multi-core CPU performance. The M4 Max is now the fastest Apple silicon chip in the Geekbench 6 database.

Upgraded Webcam

The Verge's Antonio G. Di Benedetto:
Engadget's Devindra Hardawar:Apple also upgr... Click here to read rest of article

Article Link: M4 MacBook Pro Reviews: Processor Benchmarks Impress, New Nano-Texture Option Worth the Extra $150
My next MBP will have a Nano texture glass, although I'm not planning to update my M3 until the M7, after the M6 redesign
 
Unfortunately, the "something just slithered up my pants and I'm not sure if I should be horrified... or intrigued" expression is an industry standard amongst YouTubers and snake oil salesmen at this point. 🐍

Facial expressions aside, the real issue is how shallow some of the reviews are. I'm probably still going to order one of these laptops though. 👀
These reviewers aren't known for their in depth reviews, it's more like Apple fan club, I'm a fan as well, but I rarely watch their reviews, for a product I want to buy
 
I'm still using an ancient 17" MBP (thanks OCLP) primarily because it has the old matte screen option.
If the new nano texture display is that good, I might finally upgrade.
I’d be curious just how different the matte finish is from the one you have. Did you see it already on the new iPad Pro when it came out?
 
Matte screens are great but they should not come at the expense to color fidelity or sharpness especially if you're paying a $150 up charge.
I’ve used an iPad Pro with the nano texture screen. It was gorgeous. The screens these days are so high fidelity and high contrast that it still looks great with the bonus of being able to use them comfortably in bright sunlight. Same can be said of glossy.
 
It's cool that even the base M4 MBP now has Space Black. I really like that color when I've seen it in the store. (The whole lineup is too rich for my blood.)
When I first laid eyes on the Space Black MBP last year I had to have it! I wasn't even planning to upgrade, let alone for a color, but I did. And now I have my M3 Max MBP 14 listed for sale and thinking to switch to an M4 Pro Mini and MacBook Air 15. I am over the Space Black and tired of taking my watch off and being extra careful when inserting cables to avoid scratching the finish. I'm going back to classic silver next round. My silver 2015 rMBP 13 held up phenomenally well after almost 10 years.

Lessons learned:
1) Don't fall in love with a color
2) Don't buy the high-end Mac. Should have listened to posters that recommended buying base or mid-tier and upgrading more regularly when major changes come. When you buy high-end you feel forced to keep it longer and the depreciation curve is steeper.

Oh well, live and learn. :)
 
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When I first laid eyes on the Space Black MBP last year I had to have it! I wasn't even planning to upgrade, let alone for a color, but I did. And now I have my M3 Max MBP 14 listed for sale and thinking to swap to an M4 Pro Mini and MacBook Air 15. I am over the Space Black and tired of taking my watch off and being extra careful when inserting cables to avoid scratching the finish. I'm going back to classic silver next round. My silver 2015 rMBP 13 held up phenomenally well after almost 10 years.

Lessons learned:
1) Don't fall in love with a color
2) Don't buy the high-end Mac. Should have listened to posters that recommended buying base or mid-tier and upgrading more regularly when major changes come. When you buy high-end you feel forced to keep it longer and the depreciation curve is steeper.

Oh well, live and learn. :)
100% accurate. I also have a white dog. That sheds. It is not pretty. If you live in a pristine environment like an Apple commercial, def get it. If not, I recommend silver.
 
What is "flop last time around"? That's not a thing that ever happened.

We have been waiting for wide gamut matte displays to have support for high contrast ratios at consumer/prosumer prices. They are the highest standard in professional colour work and cinema grading is done with them.

Once the contrast is high enough and the price is low enough then all this reflective glass thing will be a thing of the past. The next big upgrade cycles between now and 2030 will come from generative AI requiring lots of memory....and matte displays. There will be no more glossy displays in the 2030s and people will be so happy they are gone.
How? A matte surface is a surface which scatters light. This is fundamentally incompatible with achieving high contrast.
 
How? A matte surface is a surface which scatters light. This is fundamentally incompatible with achieving high contrast.

You can see the youtube reviews for how good the contrast is face on and it will improve still. At a steep angle the contrast falls off but who the **** cares about that. When you see one of these new Macs in person you are going to immediately forget about glossy displays.

Super high contrast specs have been burned into your brain by marketing for televisions and stupidly that leaked over into computing. You don't need crazy high contrast to view an image, read a text or watch a movie. There's point where it becomes overdone for each case.

It's no different from car makers bragging about their 200 miles per hour top speed that you can't legally achieve or even need.
 
Good to have nano texture display option. Other than that no changes except for the powerful M4 Pro/Max chips.
 
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You can see the youtube reviews for how good the contrast is face on and it will improve still. At a steep angle the contrast falls off but who the **** cares about that. When you see one of these new Macs in person you are going to immediately forget about glossy displays.

Super high contrast specs have been burned into your brain by marketing for televisions and stupidly that leaked over into computing. You don't need crazy high contrast to view an image, read a text or watch a movie. There's point where it becomes overdone for each case.

It's no different from car makers bragging about their 200 miles per hour top speed that you can't legally achieve or even need.
I agree that matte displays have their advantages and for some people the tradeoff is absolutely worth it. Your original statement however was worded as an assertion that *nobody* will want anything different, and this just isn't the case. There are real fundamental downsides. Brushing off other people's preferences as marketing-induced stupidity is just ignorant.
 
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M4 Performance

The Verge's Antonio G. Di Benedetto:

ZDNet's Kerry Wan:

TechRadar's Lance Ulanoff:

According to multi-core CPU performance Geekbench results for the M4 Pro and for the M4 Max, the highest-end variants of the M4 Pro and M4 Max are both able to outperform the highest-end M2 Ultra chip in the Mac Studio and Mac Pro, which is impressive. Specifically, the M4 Max is up to 25% faster than the M2 Ultra in terms of peak multi-core CPU performance.

For customers choosing between the M4 Pro and M4 Max, the M4 Max appears to be up to 20% faster than the M4 Pro in terms of peak multi-core CPU performance. The M4 Max is now the fastest Apple silicon chip in the Geekbench 6 database.
Haven`t studied the benchmarks yet and I don`t believe I have to. This site I visit occasionally published a story referring to a Techspot piece reporting on performance compared with some stuff from Intel and AMD including the minor issues the cool Intel cats are experiencing with their ovens.

Normally, any Apple story trigger a rather large and vocal wolfpack bashing the M`s and so on, but this time around it looks like the wolfpack were preoccupied breastfeeding their puppets.

I probably won`t need to read benchmarks, the wolfpack told it all.
 
Love anything not glossy and true to life. So extra contrast for me is not a plus on the glossy screens. I do not understand why any one wants the screens brighter. I am 67 and turn the brightness way down as it does my head in (liverpool slang). I love that the texture or whatever it is called is not over the top because as a photographer and printer, hey, I want it to look like the output, not some super hypo-exaggerated image on a screen that is practically impossible to print and only good for displays around rooms, or other people's smart phones and the rest, that sort of thing. Speed is important but not that important. No point having speed when the software, as happens often with Apple, has strange changes that drive you crazy for the first month and with almost every other software upgrade, marked very important, other problems occur.

BTW, I could not afford to buy this product anyway. I am in Europe and we do not make that much income. I realised this as a) my son works in San Francisco and makes a mint, and b) I went to his wedding in NYC and nearly went bankrupt, despite having free accommodation. The lady I stayed with was so happy because she had a coop thing and only paid $800 a month for the maintenance and whatever else for the NYC taxes. I think 12,000. I pay $300 a year for all that in Spain. And I get free healthcare. 100%. 2 years ago I made for me a large investment and bought an airbook pro with all the extras. Here that was $3500 dollars. The device was faulty and was repaired, but at the loss of much of my stuff. It took Apple 2 years nearly to concede that it was faulty. So at least I did not have to pay anything.

So, the upshot is I am used to Apple but it is not God. Neither is your new president nor electric car maker with many children.

I hope you enjoyed my rant. I thought a change was in order!
 
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