Ok. I’m not sure how this is relevant. Their lowest end devices use many more cores and power. You aren't revealing anything by comparing these devices.
That would depend on CP2077 being updated to take advantage of it. They show off Blender because Apple contributes to it, and can make sure it’s optimized for Apple Silicon.
This thread is in the gaming forum and we’re discussing gaming performance. Comparing the M5 to nvidia is apropro
I don’t think @leman reply implies otherwise. They merely said the fact that the 5050 was Nvidia’s lowest gpu doesn’t mean it’s at the lower end of the gaming market, and certainly not comparable to the base M5.
Why not simply compare it to a 5090 mobile at that rate if power and size make no difference? If Nvidia made say a 5040 then fine, but they don't. Nvidia literally doesn't compete in that market. The competition for Apple's M5 comes from GPUs found in Intel's Lunar/Arrow Lake (& upcoming Panther Lake) and AMD's Strix Point.
Yup
I compared nvidias low end gpu to the m5 since that’s also low end.
I did so when I was looking to buy my M4 Max Studio, and once the M5 pro/max/ultra comes out I’ll do so again
It's not the same low end. The point of my earlier comment was, if Nvidia's smallest card was the 5090 mobile making it the lowest end Nvidia GPU, would you still compare that to the base M5? Of course not, or at least I hope not? I hope that highlights the silliness of the logic at play here.
In fairness the 5050 mobile* doesn't quite have that power budget - it's more like 50W in its base configuration (if the OEM overclocks, which many do and is probably reflected in its Blender scores, it can be up to 100W). Though by the same token, the base M GPU has also historically been like 10-20W with as you said 30W for the base M SOC (the M4 might've increased that I can't remember).
A term vastly overused by Apple to the point its meaningless now. As for gaming some light retro games on the Mac, newer heavyweight games have a Windows system for that as the Mac can't come close on selection of performance. As much as I'd like to ditch Microsoft it's not really practicable, is easier to silence the OS and enjoy the games I like.
I've looked at Linux but still comes up lacking for my needs. Am pretty much OS agnostic so not against the idea. Windows is far from perfect, nor is it as broken as some make out. Think most who have issues with Windows is down to their own actions, PEBCAK being the most likely culprit...
I'm comparing Apple's M5 MacBook Pro, and how it will perform against other laptops that use Nvidia GPUs. If you think that's an unfair comparison, then you probably missed a lot of discussions particularly in the In 3 years, 50% of all computers capable of playing AAA games will be Macs thread.
So you're saying the M5 is more of a handheld/console processor and we shouldn't compare it to PCs? That's a first.
I've all but ditched Windows/Microsoft, so much so, I'm working at clearing off OneDrive and I'll be uninstall Office. I found that Crossover on my M4 Max Studio gives me nearly everything I need, and where it falls down, there's Nvidia's Geforce Now.
