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You guys are only looking at the MAINSTREAM games. Anyone bothered to look at the indie scene?

Some of the best games I've EVER played have been on the Mac and been developed by Indie designers.

"Plobb!" being one of my most favourite.
 
You guys are only looking at the MAINSTREAM games. Anyone bothered to look at the indie scene?

Some of the best games I've EVER played have been on the Mac and been developed by Indie designers.

"Plobb!" being one of my most favourite.

OK, but could you name a few more?!
 
Oh yes there are some awesome indie games. There's a huge amount of Mac support from them. However, I'd still like to play some AAA titles.
 
Actually, yes, they are. If you don't take care of your hardware, give it a reasonable room to breathe, it's going to overheat. And how many people bought those coolers which were bad for the system? A lot. I've had two Xbox 360s, and not a single problem with each.

They aren't exaggerations.

The xbox rep to the Gamestop in which I work told us that 1 out of 3 xbox's with the chipset prior to the "Elites" are a failure and result in the over heating problem, which qualify for the warranty. This was also quoted in either a Sept 07 or Oct 07 issue of Game Informer. (I can't remember which off hand)

From personal experience I can say that I have gone through 2 xbox's of the Premium or "Pro" 20gig systems, and am currently on my third. I took every precaution that I knew about when it came to heat, over use, etc. I had to go through the warranty process twice. I just got my 3rd last week though, and so far so good.
 
OK, but could you name a few more?!

Wingnuts 2, Peggle, Quinn, Bugdom 2 and so many more :)

If you look around, you can find some real gems. Sure, they're not the most mature games in the world upon first glance, but they're good fun non-the-less! Seriously, I have wanted to throw my iMac out of the Window because I got stuck on a level of one of these games, they're that addictive :p

Macs will never be able to play games like PCs unless you use Bootcamp. We just gotta accept that. But the indie games prove that you can still enjoy yourself with Mac games. You just don't get amazing graphics and complex stories with online multiplayer support, yadda, yadda, yadda...
 
Mac games, like every other product (computer or not) in general, depends on potential revenue verses cost. The bigger the Mac market, and more specifically the more of the "game player" demographic that use Mac, the more incentive there is to build products for it. Companies, like EA, Blizzard, etc..., have to spend big money to make those triple A titles, money they have to get back in spades to justify making a game in the first place.

At what percentage of total potential customers who own personal computers and buy games do you target Mac if the effort isn't easy? Games these days are built on top of engines, those engines had a target platform(s). Blizzard's engine(s) seems to have included Mac from the early days, so it's easier. EA seems to have some engines that work on Mac, so it depends on product design choices early on in development. But... if your engine doesn't compile easily to Mac, then it is not a trivial effort to make it work and supportable (support is the other major cost of any retail product market) for the Mac market.

I, and some partners, are in the process of creating a game development company (yes I know - who isn't these days *sigh*), and target platform(s) is the first decision after "let's do it". We are building toward pilot projects to feel out our product directions. Our initial target market includes Mac, PC, and potentially one or more consoles - our initial game engine reflects this choice. We are realistic, we are targeting mid-market (in terms of game quality) because costs, resources, and time put triple A titles out of reach... for now ;). As a small game development startup Mac has distinct advantages, chief amongst them the current state of games on Mac.

The good news for Mac gamers is, the current market penetration and projected trends of Apple's successes will likely attract the major game development companies in short order if those trends continue.

Thanks.

OH,
You guys are only looking at the MAINSTREAM games. Anyone bothered to look at the indie scene?

Some of the best games I've EVER played have been on the Mac and been developed by Indie designers.

I hope my company will make products that rate such words soon. :D
 
Even big name games aren't always Mac compatible. Warhammer won't be playable on a Mac...which really ticks me off as I'll have to play on my PC :(
 
Well, when Mac users take a majority of the market share for personal computers, I'm sure they'll heed that call D:.
 
This is how it is!

Mac is for design and simplicity , thats it!
pc is for gaming and business.

I love my pc, and i love mac

I newer had any problems with my pc, the one im using now is hardcore overclocked, workes brilliant, And the design is really good (black glass and stainless design ) im not running crap vista thou, im running xp, its a nosound pc , running with fans-

But for my new incoming Mac book pro , its state of the art design laptop.
Im just going to do adobe works on it cs3 and ill start making some music again, using protools with digidesign products. its exellent on a mac!

And ive got the xbox360, its a nice gamingplatform. I dont think it sounds to mutch, i do play games with 5.1 sound

On my pc I play BATTLEFIELD 2142. Im a so called killer in that game :D

And now its out on Mac, anyone played it on macbook pro ?
I know the gfx card can handle that game in full grafix , but do the drivers support non laggy gaming on its os? i dont whant to use vista on my mac!


So what i whant to say to you all, dont get fanatic with eather Mac or a Pc, remember,,, intel inside :D


And i dont understand u who hate using a pc for games!
First what type of pc do u use? dell, asus?

no mather what u use , stop it and build your own! its cheeper and much bether, thou u must have the skills to build stuff. just like Lego! . If you dont know how ( its really really easy , a child could do it ) search google :D
 
It's never about the platform - it's about the game. Many of the greatest games I've ever played were on platforms with miniscule or no hardware requirements.

And the reason, more than any other, that makes this argument pointless is that entertainment is subjective.

Some people like glitz & glamour (i.e. Halo, Metal Gear, Bioshock) with little/no mental challenge, some prefer games with strong stories and little interactivity, others anything with deep mental challenges and puzzles. Some simply like different combinations of all the things that make up a game depending on their mood at the time.

If you want to be a 'gamer', and enjoy interactive entertainment, figure out what you enjoy, and go do that wherever you need to - don't restrict yourself to 'Mac Games' simply because you own one. Don't avoid a game on the Mac that looks potentially enjoyable because it's not using the AAA title of the day, or it came out for another platform months/years ago.

Go have some fun.

Disclaimer: I've been a "gamer" for 30+ years. I've played games on nearly every conceivable platform a game can be played on: Tables, Streets & Backyards, Dedicated Hardware (Arcade Machines, LCD/LED handhelds, etc.), Home TV-linked Consoles (Atari 800<->XBox 360 & PS3), Personal Computers of every flavor (Mattel Aquarius, Atari 400/800, Commodore, IBM PC's and decendants, Apple II<-> OS X).
 
I'd have trouble naming 10 games that are any good......Age of Empires 3, Call of Duty 2 and X3 stand out but these games are years behind the PC market.......and yes I could spend a lot of money buying the upgrades I would need to run Bootcamp, but then why buy a Mac in the first place?

Mac users are in denial - I keep hearing words like 'fun and cool stuff' being used in conjunction with Apple, but the elephant in the room is gaming, and I wish more people would come out and admit it!

to any gamer..this is no revelation...

macs suck at gaming and price/performance

honestly, the only good mac at gaming from a price/performance/feature standpoint is the macbook pro. For a laptop that weighs 5 lbs, it has a lot of power and under bootcamp you can game all you want. Anything else in the mac lineup is a waste of money if your just gaming on it. Build a gaming pc.
 
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