As long as it doesn't bring the forums to a screeching halt, fun is good.
This interesting, but it seems a little nonsensical, too. Ah... where are all the accurate leaks...?
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This interesting, but it seems a little nonsensical, too. Ah... where are all the accurate leaks...?
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May be there aren't two options, but one is the new eMac (as they said the white one was like that), and they are sticking with grey for PowerMac line
Just my $.02
May be there aren't two options, but one is the new eMac (as they said the white one was like that), and they are sticking with grey for PowerMac line
Just my $.02
I don't know about the tip as a whole, but it will seriously kick ass if these two things happen.
Halleluiah, a vertical drive box that can be easily removed! What a complete pain it is in our current B&W-style cases. Even my ancient Dell has a hinged swinging vert drive holder.
It would be nice to see the two-button scroller too, just to get more uniform integration with into the OS/apps for the second button and wheel. Although I admit it is already pretty well integrated with 3rd party scrollers. Control-clicking sucks. I don't know why they didn't go 2+scroll a long time ago (especially with the introduction of control clicks), except maybe the collective ego of Apple which couldn't admit that Wintel had the better solution a long time ago.
But if the mouse doesn't happen, I'll happily stay with my optical MacAlly scroller.
Now these guys opened the box, right? So how about some dirt on the 9800 or FX5900 that had damn well better be inside??
i think one possibility of the rotatable or reconfigurable drives and PCI stuff is that maybe the new powermac can be situated on ones desk in different ways...if the tower is layin on it's side it would be nice to change the orientation of the drives so that they are always parallel to the desk surface no matter what the position of the case of the computer... jsut a thought
Originally posted by mustang_dvs
Diagonal PCI slots?? Hmmmm?
Cool! Bring 'em on!
My first reaction (well, the first practical reaction) was that they'd be hard to install cards into (which defeats the point), but then one remembers it's Apple, so of course it will be easy to install!
An interesting photo at www.macguardians.de Looks a heck of a lot more appealing than the other one.
It also lists the specs which sound pretty darned nice
It also lists the specs which sound pretty darned nice
Re: Re: Re: What about this?
no, they don't.
common falicy. word has it that they did this for a very short time after 2.0 was introduced, but the problem was solved shortly thereafter.
as for the rest of it, he seems to have a pretty intimate knowledge of this machine... enough that he would have had to turn it on to get these specs... which of course, is why it's 'fun' reading, and why it's on page 2...
but i would laugh my butt off if this guy turns out being right on monday (or tuesday, or whatever)
matt
no, they don't.
common falicy. word has it that they did this for a very short time after 2.0 was introduced, but the problem was solved shortly thereafter.
as for the rest of it, he seems to have a pretty intimate knowledge of this machine... enough that he would have had to turn it on to get these specs... which of course, is why it's 'fun' reading, and why it's on page 2...
but i would laugh my butt off if this guy turns out being right on monday (or tuesday, or whatever)
matt
That image was used by another submission that goes to a Russian page - the image is a fake. Now, as to the specs? Who knows.....less than a week to go.
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Errmm... maybe because Apple is selling their products world-wide and product launches are normally world-wide at the same date?
So tell me why someone in Germany should have NOT access to these boxes??? Or do you think that Apple products are USA exclusive for 3 months before other "unworthy" nationalities can get their hands on them?
Nice little world you are living in!
groovebuster
When did the mac become a sony pc?
bluetooth logos?
970 logos?
Last time i saw a logo on a mac wass a powerpc logo.
also the mac will be a g5 not a 970.
Why?
because what hapens when the 975 comes out? people will think it is a different class of processor.
think if the g4 was the 7410.
we would have had so many diff numbers to keep track of
7410
7441
7445
7447
7451
7455
7457
I guess we could call it the 970 class powermac. then when the 975 comes out it is still in the range of 970
Im not sure about my numbers... if wrong im sorry.
bluetooth logos?
970 logos?
Last time i saw a logo on a mac wass a powerpc logo.
also the mac will be a g5 not a 970.
Why?
because what hapens when the 975 comes out? people will think it is a different class of processor.
think if the g4 was the 7410.
we would have had so many diff numbers to keep track of
7410
7441
7445
7447
7451
7455
7457
I guess we could call it the 970 class powermac. then when the 975 comes out it is still in the range of 970
Im not sure about my numbers... if wrong im sorry.
1. maybe the new towers will only be available first in Europe
2. after all, we have to wait for the iTMS so that will only be fair
3. maybe next to the USB ports "1.1" and "2" has been printed
4. Apple wants sales, and the most heard question about the mac is "it does has weird mice", so maybe at last they give in on this and start selling two button mice
2. after all, we have to wait for the iTMS so that will only be fair
3. maybe next to the USB ports "1.1" and "2" has been printed
4. Apple wants sales, and the most heard question about the mac is "it does has weird mice", so maybe at last they give in on this and start selling two button mice
65cm is just over 2 feet long.
Picture how odd it would be to have something 6 inches wide and as deep as a standard filing cabinet.
If that dimention is height, then with the resulting "tower" you would almost have enough room to put one on either side of your chair with a board resting from one to the other to make a desk (depending on how long your shins are). Want computing power? Don't get a "desktop" computer. Get the new Apple Power "Desk"!!
Its either screwed up rack mount dimensions, fake, or crazy. Time will tell.
Picture how odd it would be to have something 6 inches wide and as deep as a standard filing cabinet.
If that dimention is height, then with the resulting "tower" you would almost have enough room to put one on either side of your chair with a board resting from one to the other to make a desk (depending on how long your shins are). Want computing power? Don't get a "desktop" computer. Get the new Apple Power "Desk"!!
Its either screwed up rack mount dimensions, fake, or crazy. Time will tell.
I can't stand back and watch from the sidelines anymore, had to jump in.
First of all SOME of you guys seem to think that the people at Apple are kinda stupid when it comes to designing computers. All these speculations about the look and how this doesnt make sense that Apple would do this or how that doesnt make sense... Apple is an EXTREMELY innovative company, especially when it comes to designing computers! If they have diagonal pci slots, you gotta know that they figured out a way for this to work! If they have a rotating drive slot, they figured out a way for this to work as well.
All this seems totally plausible to me and right in line with the radical designs apple comes with. Thats why we love them so much. They think waayyy ahead of all the other CPU makers. Now, granted sometimes they get a little too cute but overall they are very consistant in their design and thinking. I'd like to bet some of you that what was described is probably dead on. I believe Apple may have two boxes with different colors. Why, one for PRO USERS and one for CONSUMER USERS. This would be another example of their forward thinking. Anyway, that just my 5cents. Back to the sidelines now.
First of all SOME of you guys seem to think that the people at Apple are kinda stupid when it comes to designing computers. All these speculations about the look and how this doesnt make sense that Apple would do this or how that doesnt make sense... Apple is an EXTREMELY innovative company, especially when it comes to designing computers! If they have diagonal pci slots, you gotta know that they figured out a way for this to work! If they have a rotating drive slot, they figured out a way for this to work as well.
All this seems totally plausible to me and right in line with the radical designs apple comes with. Thats why we love them so much. They think waayyy ahead of all the other CPU makers. Now, granted sometimes they get a little too cute but overall they are very consistant in their design and thinking. I'd like to bet some of you that what was described is probably dead on. I believe Apple may have two boxes with different colors. Why, one for PRO USERS and one for CONSUMER USERS. This would be another example of their forward thinking. Anyway, that just my 5cents. Back to the sidelines now.
hmmm . . .
i think that people are missing the point of the diagonal pci slots. if this part is to be believed, then clearly the case is just too thin to fit pci cards horizontally (if the case is in the tower position), and apple wanted more pci slots than could fit vertically. rotating the pci slots is an elegant and simple solution--the kind that apple is known for.
however, there is one part of the description that people are simply overlooking. the report discusses a removeable, rotatable drive bay. in order for this to work in a normal computer case, the face of the drive bay would have to be square. however, the fact that there are 5 drive slots suggests otherwise--there is simply no way that the computer could be too thin to fit pci cards horizontally, and thick enough to put 5 drive slots vertically. the only solution that i see is for the drive bay to be exposed on the top and sides. this would also necessitate a rectangular 'cut' in the case. ive included a kidpix mockup (at least i tried to--i dont know how to post pictures so this might not work).
note! im not saying i think this is how the case will look--im just saying that this would be necessary given the description.
peace.
i think that people are missing the point of the diagonal pci slots. if this part is to be believed, then clearly the case is just too thin to fit pci cards horizontally (if the case is in the tower position), and apple wanted more pci slots than could fit vertically. rotating the pci slots is an elegant and simple solution--the kind that apple is known for.
however, there is one part of the description that people are simply overlooking. the report discusses a removeable, rotatable drive bay. in order for this to work in a normal computer case, the face of the drive bay would have to be square. however, the fact that there are 5 drive slots suggests otherwise--there is simply no way that the computer could be too thin to fit pci cards horizontally, and thick enough to put 5 drive slots vertically. the only solution that i see is for the drive bay to be exposed on the top and sides. this would also necessitate a rectangular 'cut' in the case. ive included a kidpix mockup (at least i tried to--i dont know how to post pictures so this might not work).
note! im not saying i think this is how the case will look--im just saying that this would be necessary given the description.
peace.
Re: hmmm . . .
You're assuming that all 5 drive bays are in the rotating enclosure. It says that there is "space for 5 drives" It does not say if this is total or just in the removable rotating enclosure.
You're assuming that all 5 drive bays are in the rotating enclosure. It says that there is "space for 5 drives" It does not say if this is total or just in the removable rotating enclosure.
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do you believe by "dualcore" they mean dual processor? 970's don't have "dualcores" correct?
do you believe by "dualcore" they mean dual processor? 970's don't have "dualcores" correct?
Re: What about this?
You are wrong.
Even if both ports were on the same root hub (which may or may not be the case), in order to qualify as a USB 2.0 hub the hub must be able to simultaneously service "Hi-Speed" (2.0) devices at full speed and 1.1/1.0 devices at their full speed.
Now, if the theoretical Mac user above attempted to plug their 2.0 device into a 1.1 hub, then, yes, they would not get a high-speed connection. This is because of the hub "in the middle", though, not because somewhere on the tree of devices there is a 1.1 device!
You are wrong.
Even if both ports were on the same root hub (which may or may not be the case), in order to qualify as a USB 2.0 hub the hub must be able to simultaneously service "Hi-Speed" (2.0) devices at full speed and 1.1/1.0 devices at their full speed.
Now, if the theoretical Mac user above attempted to plug their 2.0 device into a 1.1 hub, then, yes, they would not get a high-speed connection. This is because of the hub "in the middle", though, not because somewhere on the tree of devices there is a 1.1 device!
Originally posted by groovebuster
Errmm... maybe because Apple is selling their products world-wide and product launches are normally world-wide at the same date?
So tell me why someone in Germany should have NOT access to these boxes??? Or do you think that Apple products are USA exclusive for 3 months before other "unworthy" nationalities can get their hands on them?
Nice little world you are living in!
groovebuster
At least I'm living in reality. I'm not saying "USA IS BEST". I'm saying:
If this is such a top-secret deal, and Apple has *ZERO* apple-branded stores in Germany, than why would Apple pre-send this hardware to anyone who isn't duty-bound to keep the boxes sealed until monday.
I'm just evaluating the likelyhood that Apple would pre-ship to EVERY LITTLE vendor these boxes that are so secret. I have not heard word of ANY boxes being shipped to anything but APPLE-BRANDED stores.
First, there has to be a presumption that these rumored "boxes" to the apple stores contain computer hardware and not display items.
Second, there has to be a presumtion that Apple is pre-seeding EVERY LITTLE vendor with the same top-secret hardware. Not necessary since they can FED-EX anything and have it there Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning.
Third, (I'm not saying this is the best business practice) it is a FACT that Apple generally makes its equipment and software available in the US first. For example, *IF* new hardware is announced and even made available at WWDC, that exact same hardware may be listed at the apple UK store (http://www.apple.com/uk/thestore/) that day, but not ship for 2 weeks.
Fourth, there have been a remarkably poor track record of rumors coming out of Germany. I named the last big fake (iWalk). Can you name the last big success?
Please don't jump to the idiotic conclusion that I'm anti-german or something. I'm not jumping to the conclusion that you are illogical! You just didn't think it out.
---gralem
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