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Mac Mini 2013 PCIe SSD
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I think we get that answer when the new see the next Macbook Pro´s. If all of them get PCIe ssd´s i think every mac will get that.
PCIe + HDD Fusion is very expected...
Besides, APPLE doesn't count days ...statistics is fine but market competition drives any potential update. Technology is here...Haswell processors and better graphics are available, wi-fi ac is ready...
I bet in late Oct. 2013 APPLE is going to launch updated Macs/new OS...
PC companies are refreshing their products between Oct.-Nov.2013...competition is hard! money counts....
Well the Mini is the only computer without competition. If Apple likes, they can wait with an update till 2015. It will not affect sales. The only thing wise to do is SAY they will wait then
because of all the neurotics here waiting and waiting for things not happening and not making a difference. Haswell, new wifi, pcie ssd and HD4600 will mean close to nothing to the functioning of the Mini and a speed increase will ony be like 10%! Why bother updating the best computer ever that is also the cheapest Apple sells?If I was Apple, I just would release a new Mini with the options of black and gold anodising and remain the other things unchanged. That will be a better investment->return ratio than any haswell crap with expensive redesigning of the electronics will deliver.
I like a black one, thank you. (where/when can I order?) Will help keeping the enclosure cool (there is difference in temperature between black and silver). I suspect the Chinese will drool over the gold one....
Seriously though.... I have thought about getting the existing enclosure anodized in black.... Unfortunately I would then want to have the logo in either white or gold and there is no easy way to change that.
Are you sure? While introducing the new "biggest" Mac (the Mac Pro), Apple will also unveil the "smallest Mac ever" -- a Mac Mini cube. No room for a fusion drive, but PCIe SSD.
Well the Mini is the only computer without competition. If Apple likes, they can wait with an update till 2015. It will not affect sales. The only thing wise to do is SAY they will wait then
If I was Apple, I just would release a new Mini with the options of black and gold anodising and remain the other things unchanged. That will be a better investment->return ratio than any haswell crap with expensive redesigning of the electronics will deliver.
you are a clever person...your comment is accurate! However, all the neurotics here are paying a lot of money and they want to have the faster machine with the latest technology....
Mac Mini is a powerful little machine and the neurotics here like its performance vs size!
APPLE knows it very well and also knows that Mac Mini update is cheap and easy...easy and fast money for the APPLE...
The colour and external cosmetics can be improved but better graphics and pci-e SSD are very recommended this year to keep customers happy...there will be a competition between previous and recent year's models! ...means "fresh" money....
Believe me or not, market feedback shows that in late Oct. 2013 APPLE is going to update this magic machine... against to the statistics!
this is the first time that I don't care about a new mini. my 2011 with a discrete 6630 and my quad core 2012 don't need to be upgraded. I actually won't do much with the new mini when it finally come out. I may want a new mac pro but that depends on what I can do with it.
I have two 2009 Minis and one 2011 server quad. I'm thinking about replacing one of the 2009 Minis with a new Mac Mini with a quad-core CPU. Though I may put it off for another year. A fair bit depends on how well Mavericks runs on the 2009 Mac Minis. Another option would be to replace the stock HDD in a 2009 Mini with a 1.5TB HDD or a SSD.
A PCIe SSD in the next Mini would be nice.
Very true. The benefits of Haswell will be marginal. If we go die-shrink to 14nm, then we will see a real performance boost again. Now it is splitting hairs. Just get a Mini when it can help you and start working on it.
Same boat here.
End 1995 I bought my first laptop, afterwards I upgraded on average every 6 to 8 months. I needed the improved performance which at that time was very substantial. This came to a halt when I bought two Thinkpads T61p - I did not need more computing power. Lost count of how many I owned but it must be somewhere between 15 and 20. (Additionally I had several from work.)
Then a few years ago I was put on medication for arthritis and my eyes deteriorated rapidly and I no longer was able to use a 15.6" screen so first came a 21.5" LG screen and then shortly afterwards the first mini appeared. Eventually the LG screen was replaced by a Dell monitor and then the laptops totally disappeared for two Mac mini's. No need for more computing power, no need for more screen estate. Only changed the 2010 sever for the 2012 base Mac mini because I wanted to be able to run Windows 8 and have USB 3.0 for backups. Don't feel any need to change as soon as something new comes out. I like to find out what the new MacPro will be like, how much power it uses. Perhaps it becomes an option if I can justify the need for it. Cannot see me replacing the screens any time soon - no eyestrain unlike the LG and the first Dell I had.
It really depends on the 24/7 use. Haswell is most of all good on idle-consumption. Saving power when the machine is doing nothing. The old Mini's were already very good in that, guess the 2011 does like 12 watt idle or so.
SSD is not as energy saving as you might think. Again, on idle the energy use is marginal, below 1 watt, but on use it can peak at 5 watt.
On the other side, a hard drive does like 5 watt all the time, but that DOES deliver a capacity of 750-2000GB (or even 2 drives for 4TB at 10watt)! Internal! Hooking up external drives makes the stuff a lot less efficient as well.
This is what Haswell can deliver. The only question is whether Apple is willing to decrease the size of the Mac mini for the benefits of power. I say, it does make sense, because Apple needs a low end Mac besides the shiny new Mac Pro.
If your Mac mini utilizes the hd/ssd very often, the savings will be marginal at best. Most SSD drives need 4 - 5 W during access. Some even more. Good hard drives only need +- 5 W during spin-up. Most drives run around 3-4 W. Some 4200 rpm drives even less. They can be put to sleep (spin-down), whereas only a few SSD drives support decent sleep states rather than idle. All the figures are on AnandTech for comparison. Of course, hard drives are significantly slower than SSDs. If your server has a high load, go for the SSD, otherwise hard drives are fine and relatively cheap.
Noise levels annoy me no end. When I bought the 2012 base Mac mini a month ago it had a HDD that when it got warm became very noisy on the bearings. Could have asked for a replacement but I am not letting a "genius" guy near it. Have seen the way they handle a machine - no thanks.
Since most activity happens in memory disks are not as active as one may think, especially when using a laptop or an UPS and then adjust the power settings.
The older Toshiba's used less power when active but the new Q-series are good enough for me.
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Just for your information....without panic and fireworks....
APPLE walks ahead!
APPLE is "THE SILENT DANCER"!!!!
today...
the new iMac has the latest Intel processors, faster graphics, next generation 802.11ac Wi-Fi and faster PCIe flash storage!
tomorrow....(late Oct.2013? maybe earlier??!!!!!)
new MAC MINI is coming....
AS EXPECTED....PCI-e SSD, Wi-Fi AC, new graphics, Haswell processors...
That is why I mentioned a mac pro. I have a pc with a 3770t cpu and a hd7970 it runs rings around my mac gear. Plus it is not too big. Apple will never make a killer gpu in the mini. the new mac pro might be fun if I can do this to it.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1122551/
I get my hands on a lot of gear. I am doing a test review as I type this reply to you for a major internet sales company. If you see my mac rumors name on line with a review it most likely really is me.
I really like macs for the os and the size ideas but over time I have seen certain patterns they do for product lines. thus a mac mini and a great gpu will never happen.
I am really hoping that DYI SSD and memory upgrades will still be possibility on the new mac mini's when they get released. I am hoping to get the base model and do these upgrades myself at the later time.