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Mac mini 2017?
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server edition i7 2.3 2x1TB hdd, 16GB ram, hardly used, still has Yosemite on it.
In the US you can buy them from MacSales (OWC). You won't find any bargains there, but they have a 90 day warranty and 15 day return/exchange period. Got my 2012 quad 2.6 there last year and and completely happy. Wasn't cheap, but it was still $150 cheaper than the top of the line 2014 Mini and it's 50% faster.
https://eshop.macsales.com/Search/S...N=100518+4294922300+4294921542&Ntt=OWCUsedMac
https://eshop.macsales.com/Search/S...N=100518+4294922300+4294921542&Ntt=OWCUsedMac
I would have thought demand dictates sales. They can sell what "IT" wants but if people don't buy it....
Yes,if they don't buy it then they ganna have to change it.
But still.like the Mac book for example.so experience,and can't do much performance.i ts only for like....rich people.
Yup….. thus the Mac Mini and the MacBook Air remain in the lineup. While it may mystify the average dilettante, cutting edge tech is not essential to the requirements of average folks who just want to use MacOS to do basic stuff.
Yes,if they don't buy it then they ganna have to change it.
But still.like the Mac book for example.so experience,and can't do much performance.i ts only for like....rich people.
You may not like the offerings, but if you want to run macOS (instead of Window or a Linux distro), you're going to have to buy a computer from Apple. They don't license the software to other computer makers, and the hackintosh route will never be mainstream. So with that limitation for the buyer, Apple can get away, to a large extent, with pushing what THEY want to sell over what you or I may want to buy.
I am running a 2014 i5 2.6GHz 8GB with eGPU (GTX 1060) and aftermarket 512GB SSD.
I must say it is a very very competent machine.
If you can find one, go for the 2012 Quad Core 2.6 Ghz, upgrade the RAM to 16 GB (Micron or Crucial) and put in at least one SSD. I've had great success with the Angelbird drives. Buy a like a big Giotto's photo/camera blower to clean it's internals once a month. (Clean it from the exhaust port –powered off and everything unplugged and with the bottom lid removed.) If you want to put in two SSDs, get the OWC data doubler kit that has the logic board removal tool and the special offset cable, but I'd skip the OWC SSDs and stick with Angelbirds or Samsungs –but not the 840 ones.
YMMV. Not available at all locations. Batteries not included.
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There is just something so wrong with having to scrounge up a 5 year old Mini - but I have given up hope they'll come out with anything new.
The only reason I haven't purchased an old cMP 12-core is that I need Thunderbolt 2 for my Apollo and BMD hardware. I'm being swayed toward the Boxx because I've already gone through two nMP. -the 2013 6-core or 8-core isn't $3000 "better" in performance than the 2012 Mini using Pro Tools 12. Depressing.
Cutting edge? How about an update once every THOUSAND FREAKIN DAYS!!!!!
Your desire to excuse this disdain for users is amazing.
The 2012 will be good for another 4 years before it goes on the Apple obsolete list.
Mine is still a great little computer. I got the top-line 2012 and it hauls, despite newer computers now being able to outstrip it.
Unless you do CPU-GPU intensive stuff, 4K video anything, or have multiple programs loaded with data running simultaneously, it'll do.
The tech will have advanced enough in 2 years to begin contemplating a new Mac. 4K isn't a big deal yet, neither are his-res monitors, and anything above USB 3 is still odd and expensive, so why bother with updating?
I recommend people hang onto their late 2012 QC Mini's until something truly better comes along. Upgrade that RAM before it becomes rare and expensive. I'm using a USB hub for the many software dongles, etc.
I am unsure how real-world performance (well, really just Pro Tools 12) is better in a 2015 or 2017 top-spec BTO MBP in comparison. Anybody have any experience between the two?
I am unsure how real-world performance (well, really just Pro Tools 12) is better in a 2015 or 2017 top-spec BTO MBP in comparison. Anybody have any experience between the two?
I was just looking at the specs for the top of the line 2017 iMac and was kind of surprised that the geekbench score is only 50% higher than my 2012 2.6 quad mini. Sure, there are other things like graphics card and SSD that will certainly whip the Mini, but I was expecting the CPU to be 2 or 3 times faster. The top MBP is slower than that... I believe the scores were approximately 12,000 for the Mini, 15,000 for the MBP and 18,000 for the iMac.
Yep! I think it's more than a strict clock speed & cores issue. Maybe these newer systems are more efficient. IDK because Apple doesn't let you memo these machines out for a week's test drive: And I don't mean buy and return. I don't like doing that.
The thing is that that ~50% difference can make or break a 24/96khz session in Pro Tools 12 if you want to run a really low-latency tracking session. Part of it is on Avid and it's code. Maybe it's just a really bad time to shop for computers. What concerns me is that if we buy machines after High Sierra drops, there's no going back to Sierra and the current working file system.
The thing is that that ~50% difference can make or break a 24/96khz session in Pro Tools 12 if you want to run a really low-latency tracking session. Part of it is on Avid and it's code. Maybe it's just a really bad time to shop for computers. What concerns me is that if we buy machines after High Sierra drops, there's no going back to Sierra and the current working file system.
The whole AMD Ryzen CPU lineup, Nvidia 10** GPUs, NVMe drives, amazing cases that give you the freedom to do what you want, etc...
No, it's an awesome time to shop for computers - just not Macs, especially if you want the power and upgradeability the 2012 Mac Mini brought to the table.
And it looks like the increasing compatibility of eGPUs (even midrange GPUs seem to have no problem with the first generation Thunderbolt) make the primary vulnerability of the late 2012 Mini somewhat lessened. Plenty of folks are reporting success with using that machine with an eGPU under Sierra. Yeah, you won't get 4K@60 out of it, but 1080p at 60 FPS seems very doable.