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Mac Mini Killer ?

This new Dell is something that I may be considering.

I'd like to know a bit more about the processor (and the processor you can upgrade to for £20). Is this just AMD's equivalent of the Intel Atom?
 
it might not be a killer , but the price tag could bring dell some customers
the AMD athlon x2 version (if they use the latest type) could work quiet well with a clockrate of 1900 MHz - 2600 MHz and a good overclocking potential could be tempting for some people who cant live without windows 7
..the intel atom version is more a dvd player with ability to surf online :D ,
but then again in the days of recession with the pound nearly at euro level and people looking more and more on the price tag then on spec, the atom version might sell quiet well
 
UrFatMom said:
Nice find.

This could be a nice alternative to a PS3
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Yeah I thought this at first as I really on use my PS3 for media, but then I figured out you could buy 2 PS3's for the price of the blu-ray one and still have some change in your pocket. Think i'll stick to my mac mini and PS3 for the time being.

On a side note as my house is a mac house all my apple kit integrates very nicely, putting in a windows based system would somewhat upset the balance when it comes to sharing photos music and other media :D

For a PC orientated house it would be perfect....then again look at the PC you could build for that kinda money....
 
Shivetya said:
their processor choice leaves me scratching my head.
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Those processors are fairly typical in low-end (non-netbook) Windows laptops. Not really surprised to see them show up here. They're nowhere near as fast as the Core chips, but they're quite capable.

ShaunPriest said:
This new Dell is something that I may be considering.

I'd like to know a bit more about the processor (and the processor you can upgrade to for £20). Is this just AMD's equivalent of the Intel Atom?
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It's one step up from that. Think of it like a Celeron, but without the suck.
 
I think it's pretty nice.... CRU is kind of "meh!", but good GPU option, larger HDD, Blue-ray, 3.5" HDD, up to 8GB RAM, eSATA.... its getting warmer....

But still too big, and kind of flimsy looking. Biggest requirement for an HTPC.... Dont look like a PC!! This one still has a look of a mini-itx PC in a box chilling with your HT equipment.

Dell, keep working on it! :D
 
If I was in the market for a small form factor desktop I would most likely choose this over the Mac Mini. The Mini wins on processor, energy consumption and perhaps design, but the Dell just ticks every other box; most importantly price.
 
53x12 said:
Meh. Blu-Ray is nice for HTPC setup, however for every day use I would prefer SL and the looks of the mini. This just looks like another cheaply made Dell with Winblows. :p
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so you sit there and stare at your little mac mini?
 
Inspiron Zino HD
DVDRW, Upgraded graphics and 20" Panel
Add to Cart


Inspiron Zino HD
AMD Athlon™ 2850e (512K, L2, 1.8GHz)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
20" Dell ST2010 Widescreen High Definition Monitor
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
4GB1 Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM2 at 800MHz- 2 DIMM
500GB3 7200 RPM4 SATA Hard Drive
ATI Radeon HD 4330 512 MB
Integrated 2.1 High Definition Audio
Dell 1397 802.11 b/g Wireless Card
1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty,5 InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis6 - Important Information
Save $128 off this Inspiron Zino HD Desktop


Starting Price $777

Total Savings $128


Subtotal $649 :)

Not bad at all :)

Inspiron Zino HD
AMD Athlon™ 2650e (512K L2, 1.6GHz)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
No Monitor
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
2GB1 Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM2 at 800MHz- 2 DIMM
250GB3 7200 RPM4 SATA Hard Drive
Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200 Graphics
Integrated 2.1 High Definition Audio
1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty,5 InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis6 - Important Information


Starting Price $229
 
bmstrong said:
Hmmm. Not bad at all...
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Not at all! in this economy the price is right in line. This will allow many homes that once could not afford a PC or Mac to have a fighting chance. The $229 price tag is outstanding. Only $649 with a 20" display!

$2,074.00


Mac Mini
2.26GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
500GB Serial ATA Drive
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Apple LED Cinema Display (24" flat panel)
Apple Mouse
Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad
User's Guide (English)

Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter

AppleCare Protection Plan for Mac mini - Auto-enroll

$2,074.00
 
$678 Seems like a killer to me
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic SP1, 32-Bit
AMD Dual Core Athlon™ Neo X2 6850e (1MB L2, 1.8GHz)
1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis - Important Information
McAfee SecurityCenter, 30-Day Trial
No Monitor
4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz- 2 DIMM
500GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
Blu-ray Disc (BD) Combo (Reads BD and Writes to DVD/CD)
ATI Radeon HD 4330 512 MB
Integrated 2.1 High Definition Audio
Dell USB Entry Keyboard
Dell USB Optical Mouse
Dell 1520 802.11 b/g/n wireless card
Piano Black
 
dwl017 said:
Inspiron Zino HD
DVDRW, Upgraded graphics and 20" Panel
Add to Cart


Inspiron Zino HD
AMD Athlon™ 2850e (512K, L2, 1.8GHz)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
20" Dell ST2010 Widescreen High Definition Monitor
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
4GB1 Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM2 at 800MHz- 2 DIMM
500GB3 7200 RPM4 SATA Hard Drive
ATI Radeon HD 4330 512 MB
Integrated 2.1 High Definition Audio
Dell 1397 802.11 b/g Wireless Card
1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty,5 InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis6 - Important Information
Save $128 off this Inspiron Zino HD Desktop


Starting Price $777

Total Savings $128


Subtotal $649 :)

Not bad at all :)
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dwl017 said:
Inspiron Zino HD
AMD Athlon™ 2650e (512K L2, 1.6GHz)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
No Monitor
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
2GB1 Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM2 at 800MHz- 2 DIMM
250GB3 7200 RPM4 SATA Hard Drive
Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200 Graphics
Integrated 2.1 High Definition Audio
1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty,5 InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis6 - Important Information


Starting Price $229
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dwl017 said:
$2,074.00


Mac Mini
2.26GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
500GB Serial ATA Drive
SuperDrive 8x (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Apple LED Cinema Display (24" flat panel)
Apple Mouse
Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad
User's Guide (English)

Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter

AppleCare Protection Plan for Mac mini - Auto-enroll

$2,074.00
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Then don't get a Mac Mini gosh!
 
might be tempting even for people who would have choosen a mac mini , as the top model comes with a blue ray drive and the amd processor is not bad and as i mentioned it has overclocking potential rough guess on the 1.8 is + 50% stable as the amd`s had always a good reputation for when it comes to theire overclocking potential
 
EliteF50 said:
It's no Mac Mini killer -- It's Dell version's of the Mac Mini...
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That's a good point. Both can exist. There will be plenty of people who want a relatively cheap, small footprint machine that runs OS X. I like mine.

The only way the mini can be killed is if Apple pulls the plug on that model. Hopefully, Apple would have something better in the same demographic to replace it with.

When Apple ditched the Cube, I was sad knowing that a small desktop was important. But when the mini came out, I totally forgot about the Cube. :)
 
Please Help...

inspiron-zino-hd-press_5.jpg


I've seen a computer like this somewhere else before but I just can't seem to place it...

:eek:
 
That Dell is pretty sweet... Blu-ray, HDMI and you stick Boxee on that thing for under US$400? Very nice.

The Mini is at a disadvantage since it doesn't have HDMI (and can it access the same HD iTunes Store content as the AppleTV now?)

You can buy the Dell AND an AppleTV (which has HDMI and can play HD iTunes Movie content) for about the same price as a Mini (which still comes up short feature-wise).

I feel like Apple is SOOOOO close to nailing this segment, if they could just make a premium AppleTV (current AppleTV + Mini) and somehow integrate the App Store ecosystem for games and such (more family and party games, not a competitor to proper game consoles). If they can get the iTunes HD movie rentals right, then Bluray isn't such a big deal, especially since stand-alone BRD players are going to be at $50 very soon.
 
Processor

AMD X2 6850E 1.8GHz 512k

Video Card

ATI Radeon™ HD 4330 512MB graphics

Memory

6144MB Dual Channel DDR2 800MHz [1x2048 + 1x4096] Memory

Hard Drive

1TB (7200rpm) SATA Hard Drive

Optical Devices

Blu-Ray ROM Drive (read/write CD/DVD & read Blu-Ray Disc)

Front Ports
Two USB 2.0 connectors
One headphone connector
One 4-in-1 memory card reader

Rear Ports
One microphOne connector
One line-out connector
One VGA connector
One RJ45 connector (10/100/1000)
two USB 2.0-compliant connectors
two eSATA connectors
one HDMI connector



thats what you get for £ 719 from dell

mac mini

2.26 ghz ok is a bit faster

memory is max 4gb

harddrive is max 500gb

superdrive no blue ray option

thats what you get from apple for £739


ok there is the mini with 2.53ghz the faster processor option for £ 859

not to mention you need some ££ more at the mini if you want windows 7 too , and as i understand the posts across the forum not many want to miss windows 7 on their mac any longer

ok i like the mini , and the design of the mini , just looks good and i don`t need windows 7

but the dell has its plus points ..
 
Poor thing

Poor Dell...must really be running out of ideas to create a carbon copy of mac mini and put a Dell lid on it.
Maybe at least make it a circle shaped? maybe pentagon?? sigh
 
mtnDewFTW said:
Do I smell a lawsuit?
It looks like Dell pretty much copied exactly what Mac Mini is lol.
oh I can already see Apple suing them.. maybe?
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no apple wont i quess they had a agreement at least that would explain why dell has choosen the amd processor and not like in their other desktops intel

but it was a wise choice as the athlon neo (thats how amd is calling him) is one step above the intel atom
 
The question is, how capable is the (top end) GPU? With the AMD processor and this GPU, could one consider this a decent backup gaming platform.... key word being decent??

That could turn me into a possible buyer.....

mtnDewFTW said:
Do I smell a lawsuit?
It looks like Dell pretty much copied exactly what Mac Mini is lol.
oh I can already see Apple suing them.. maybe?
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Of course not.... what would the lawsuit be based on? You cant trademark a Box..... there are similar looking tins you can buy chocolates in :p
 
Pak^Man said:
The question is, how capable is the (top end) GPU? With the AMD processor and this GPU, could one consider this a decent backup gaming platform.... key word being decent??

That could turn me into a possible buyer.....
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Benchmarks at :
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4330.13973.0.html

GAME BENCHMARKS

Crysis - GPU Benchmark (2007)
low: 30.7 fps
med.: 17 21 ~ 19 fps
high: 9.6 fps

Crysis - CPU Benchmark (2007)
low: 28.1 fps
med.: 14.3 fps
high: 7.9 fps»

F.E.A.R. (2005)
low: 228 fps
med.: 70 fps
high: 23 fps

Quake 3 Arena - Timedemo (1999)
high: 314.5 fps»
 
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