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I had a MacBook Pro (purchased new from Apple in 2025) that I used at home, but got tired of squinting at the screen, so I sold it back in January 2026.

I am currently computer-less at home, and yes, it is very annoying.

I have been playing the waiting game on the M5 Mac Mini and Mac Studio with fingers crossed. But as January turned to March, and March turned to June, I am left debating the same sh_t as many others…

Do I order a Mac Mini or Mac Studio now, wait the quoted 8-10 weeks I see from Apple Japan, plus the 14 day return period given here (to see if a new Mini/Studio are released), or just wait it out?

I know that nobody can tell me if or when an updated Mini/Studio will be released. Could be an M5 version in the Fall/Winter 2026, or could be an M6 version sometime in 2027.

I’m physically on the cusp of max annoyance of not having a home computer, but it’s not disrupting my ability to work or anything like that.

My singular “fear” and situation I wish to avoid is ordering, and having the last day to return pass and then a few weeks later comes the announcement of the M5 Mini/Studio.

Lastly, between the Mini Pro and Studio Max, is the latter a complete waste of money for normal home use (internet, MS Office, light personal photo/video editing), even if I have the money? If I wouldn’t notice any difference between the two computers when doing the mentioned tasks, then I would consider it a “waste.” If I would feel like “wow, that was fast” when doing these tasks, transferring music library files, etc, then I would consider it worth it.
 
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I'm just gonna wait.

Annoyed as well. I've got a 27" Monitor, Mouse and keyboard all ready to go but ... I do have a M2 MBP so I'm not without.

Probably shouldn't of sold your MBP. Maybe buy a used MBP until the M5 mini is available and then sell it ? 😉
 
I'm just gonna wait.

Annoyed as well. I've got a 27" Monitor, Mouse and keyboard all ready to go but ... I do have a M2 MBP so I'm not without.

Probably shouldn't have sold your MBP. Maybe buy a used MBP until the M5 mini is available and then sell it ? 😉
Hey, thanks for your two cents. I don’t regret selling my MBP, nor buying it. But I wouldn’t want to deal with buying another just to sell it again. If it was “I need a computer for work/school asap” then sure, use a used laptop as a gap stop.

Being that it’s just as likely that an M5 comes in the fall or they skip it and do an M6 in 2027 - this is the screwed position I feel stuck in.
 
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I had a MacBook Pro (purchased new from Apple in 2025) that I used at home, but got tired of squinting at the screen, so I sold it back in January 2026.

I am currently computer-less at home, and yes, it is very annoying.

I have been playing the waiting game on the M5 Mac Mini and Mac Studio with fingers crossed. But as January turned to March, and March turned to June, I am left debating the same sh_t as many others…

Do I order a Mac Mini or Mac Studio now, wait the quoted 8-10 weeks I see from Apple Japan, plus the 14 day return period given here (to see if a new Mini/Studio are released), or just wait it out?

I know that nobody can tell me if or when an updated Mini/Studio will be released. Could be an M5 version in the Fall/Winter 2026, or could be an M6 version sometime in 2027.

I’m physically on the cusp of max annoyance of not having a home computer, but it’s not disrupting my ability to work or anything like that.

My singular “fear” and situation I wish to avoid is ordering, and having the last day to return pass and then a few weeks later comes the announcement of the M5 Mini/Studio.

Lastly, between the Mini Pro and Studio Max, is the latter a complete waste of money for normal home use (internet, MS Office, light personal photo/video editing), even if I have the money? If I wouldn’t notice any difference between the two computers when doing the mentioned tasks, then I would consider it a “waste.” If I would feel like “wow, that was fast” when doing these tasks, transferring music library files, etc, then I would consider it worth it.

For those activities, I would just buy a Mac Mini M4 with 16GB of RAM now. Maybe see if something higher spec'd shows up in the refurb store if you really want more than that. I don't see the Studio or even the M4 Pro being worth it for those activities. Nor the M5 bump. If you were doing AI or similar, the M5 Max over the M4 Max is more than a spec bump, but I doubt you would notice the difference between a base M4 and an M5 Max for the normal home use that you mentioned without looking at System Information.

Otherwise at this rate by the time these models ship with an M5/etc, the MacBooks will be out with the M6 and then what are you going to do?
 
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For those activities, I would just buy a Mac Mini M4 with 16GB of RAM now. Maybe see if something higher spec'd shows up in the refurb store if you really want more than that. I don't see the Studio or even the M4 Pro being worth it for those activities. Nor the M5 bump. If you were doing AI or similar, the M5 Max over the M4 Max is more than a spec bump, but I doubt you would notice the difference between a base M4 and an M5 Max for the normal home use that you mentioned without looking at System Information.

Otherwise at this rate by the time these models ship with an M5/etc, the MacBooks will be out with the M6 and then what are you going to do?
Well, to be clear on computer “type”, I am only interested in a desktop computer. That is the only reason I sold my MBP. I don’t need portability for a home computer. I have a dedicated home office, so I’d rather have the 27” real estate of an Apple display than dealing with a much smaller screen on a laptop that sits on a desk, never leaves, and stays plugged in.

As for the usage, I appreciate your insight. I will use it for work when home, but my work is dealing with what I mentioned (MS Office, Master Tour, Internet, music listening, light gaming, and light photo/video editing). I don’t mind paying, but from a practical standpoint, if I’m not going to literally think or say “Wow” when using the Studio over the Mini when doing these things, then it would be pointless.
 
I would not mess with a Mac-Mini. Just go get yourself a Mac-Studio M4-Max and get your home-computing office-desk put back together. What is wrong with those? Seems like that would last you a long time.

Be sure you have a nice monitor or two (they don't both have to be huge or the same size).

I got the wife and I each a LG UltraGear 32in-4K 32GR93U for $600 each on sale a while back. They seem real nice to us (we run fast Nvidia cards in our Intel-i9 systems). Maybe at least something like that or one of the Apple Mac Studio Displays.
 
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I would not mess with a Mac-Mini. Just go get yourself a Mac-Studio M4-Max and get your home-computing office-desk put back together. What is wrong with those? Seems like that would last you a long time.

Be sure you have a nice monitor or two (they don't both have to be huge or the same size).

I got the wife and I each a LG UltraGear 32in-4K 32GR93U for $600 each on sale a while back. They seem real nice to us (we run fast Nvidia cards in our Intel-i9 systems). Maybe at least something like that or one of the Apple Mac Studio Displays.
I would not mess with a Mac-Mini. Just go get yourself a Mac-Studio M4-Max and get your home-computing office-desk put back together. What is wrong with those? Seems like that would last you a long time.

Be sure you have a nice monitor or two (they don't both have to be huge or the same size).

I got the wife and I each a LG UltraGear 32in-4K 32GR93U for $600 each on sale a while back. They seem real nice to us (we run fast Nvidia cards in our Intel-i9 systems). Maybe at least something like that or one of the Apple Mac Studio Displays.
To be clear, I am not anti Mini

I would not mess with a Mac-Mini. Just go get yourself a Mac-Studio M4-Max and get your home-computing office-desk put back together. What is wrong with those? Seems like that would last you a long time.

Be sure you have a nice monitor or two (they don't both have to be huge or the same size).

I got the wife and I each a LG UltraGear 32in-4K 32GR93U for $600 each on sale a while back. They seem real nice to us (we run fast Nvidia cards in our Intel-i9 systems). Maybe at least something like that or one of the Apple Mac Studio Displays.
To be clear, I am not against the Mini or Studio, nor do I think the M4 is garbage. But if given the choice between a version thats been out a few years vs one that’s just released, I would choose the newest. Unfortunately, that newest isn’t out and nobody can say when it will be out. Also, if the delivery time day a week or two, not much of an issue. But if I have to wait 2-2.5 months for arrival and then a few weeks later the new version is announced, yea, I’ll be pissed.

It’s more of a timing issue than if the M4 is good (I know it is).

As for Mini vs Studio, if I’m not going to see a physical difference in speed or user experience, than the base model Studio would be a waste. I say this as someone who would be happy to buy it but who admittedly is not a power user by any means.
 
Well, to be clear on computer “type”, I am only interested in a desktop computer. That is the only reason I sold my MBP. I don’t need portability for a home computer. I have a dedicated home office, so I’d rather have the 27” real estate of an Apple display than dealing with a much smaller screen on a laptop that sits on a desk, never leaves, and stays plugged in.

Agree -- the reason I mention the MacBook is that they often get the new processors first these days and so with the staggered release schedule its likely that by the time the desktops get their processor bump, the laptops will be coming out with the next generation of processors. It will always feel like a better system is right around the corner.

As for the usage, I appreciate your insight. I will use it for work when home, but my work is dealing with what I mentioned (MS Office, Master Tour, Internet, music listening, light gaming, and light photo/video editing). I don’t mind paying, but from a practical standpoint, if I’m not going to literally think or say “Wow” when using the Studio over the Mini when doing these things, then it would be pointless.

Can't speak to gaming (nor Master Tour though I'm guessing its demands are similar to MS Office) but the other things were fine with a Mac Mini 2018. Granted the OS and such seem to demand more and more power every year to do the same things so less so now than when it first came out. However, I'd still say a base M4 with 16GB should more than handle that for the next 5 years.

As an example music listening uses about 2% of 1 CPU of my Mac Mini 2018. The screensaver drives the processor harder. Web browsing might be slightly faster on newer and/or bigger processors but I find its more about the browser versus the website. Frankly I spend more time on captchas than waiting on websites to come up and my computer is a fraction of an M4.

If you wanted to run local AI/LLM then a larger system such as a Studio makes sense. Also waiting for the M5. If some future version of MS Office integrates local AI/LLM in a way that you find valuable, a Studio M5 Max will handle that better. Some models may not even run locally on systems with less than 32 or 64GB of RAM, in which case a cloud subscription may be required.

However, if you don't plan to ever use AI and/or are fine letting AI run in the cloud then I'd say a Studio would mostly go to waste for the applications you mentioned. I'd be surprised if there were any 'Wow' differences for any of the things you mentioned.
 
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As for Mini vs Studio, if I’m not going to see a physical difference in speed or user experience, then the base model Studio would be a waste. I say this as someone who would be happy to buy it but who admittedly is not a power user by any means.
As an owner of a base M1 Max Studio then for your mentioned uses then I really don’t see that a Studio would benefit you.
I use my Studio for light/home video editing, where confer the video to ProRes import into FCP X, (owned that since 2013) and then edit and export out.
I don’t think seen go above 16Gb RAM actual usage, and CPU usage negligible, though do have the software all setup including handbrake to use the VideoEncoder/decoder hardware. AppleTV on a 27” screen the he output video is perfectly fine. I don’t sit there on a 60”+ TV getting up close looking for individual pixels etc.
I bout a Studio simply as there was no M1 Pro Mini and the base M1 didn’t do ProRes.
If was buying today would be tempted to just buy a 16gb M4 Mini as the bae M4 does ProRes.
The VideoEncoder in the M4 and M4 Pro is the same.

Unless planning on upgrading the Mini to 32gb RAM then the Studio. Is just wasting money. You can buy two Mini for 1 Studio and unless you going to try and drive the mini hard, which from the description you won’t then is going to be a waste.
 
As for the usage, I appreciate your insight. I will use it for work when home, but my work is dealing with what I mentioned (MS Office, Master Tour, Internet, music listening, light gaming, and light photo/video editing). I don’t mind paying, but from a practical standpoint, if I’m not going to literally think or say “Wow” when using the Studio over the Mini when doing these things, then it would be pointless.
Based off your use case I don't think you'd benefit from an M5 or even an M4 Pro/Max. Unless you want to tell us what games exactly? Even then, I certainly would not be spending that amount of money on a Mac just to play games with a middling-to-poor experience.
 
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Agree -- the reason I mention the MacBook is that they often get the new processors first these days and so with the staggered release schedule its likely that by the time the desktops get their processor bump, the laptops will be coming out with the next generation of processors. It will always feel like a better system is right around the corner.



Can't speak to gaming (nor Master Tour though I'm guessing its demands are similar to MS Office) but the other things were fine with a Mac Mini 2018. Granted the OS and such seem to demand more and more power every year to do the same things so less so now than when it first came out. However, I'd still say a base M4 with 16GB should more than handle that for the next 5 years.

As an example music listening uses about 2% of 1 CPU of my Mac Mini 2018. The screensaver drives the processor harder. Web browsing might be slightly faster on newer and/or bigger processors but I find its more about the browser versus the website. Frankly I spend more time on captchas than waiting on websites to come up and my computer is a fraction of an M4.

If you wanted to run local AI/LLM then a larger system such as a Studio makes sense. Also waiting for the M5. If some future version of MS Office integrates local AI/LLM in a way that you find valuable, a Studio M5 Max will handle that better. Some models may not even run locally on systems with less than 32 or 64GB of RAM, in which case a cloud subscription may be required.

However, if you don't plan to ever use AI and/or are fine letting AI run in the cloud then I'd say a Studio would mostly go to waste for the applications you mentioned. I'd be surprised if there were any 'Wow' differences for any of the things you mentioned.
I know the issue of always chasing the next best thing. In my case, the “wait or buy” is tied to the much longer than normal shipping time (currently listed here at 8-10 weeks from Apple) and its relation to the probably announcement of new models. If it wouldn’t be so close, it would be a nonissue for me.

I only use a computer for the tasks mentioned - definitely nothing to do with AI. So it seems I have my answer - that a Mac Mini will be perfectly fine. As to whether I want to wait is up to me.

Appreciate your insight.
 
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As an owner of a base M1 Max Studio then for your mentioned uses then I really don’t see that a Studio would benefit you.
I use my Studio for light/home video editing, where confer the video to ProRes import into FCP X, (owned that since 2013) and then edit and export out.
I don’t think seen go above 16Gb RAM actual usage, and CPU usage negligible, though do have the software all setup including handbrake to use the VideoEncoder/decoder hardware. AppleTV on a 27” screen the he output video is perfectly fine. I don’t sit there on a 60”+ TV getting up close looking for individual pixels etc.
I bout a Studio simply as there was no M1 Pro Mini and the base M1 didn’t do ProRes.
If was buying today would be tempted to just buy a 16gb M4 Mini as the bae M4 does ProRes.
The VideoEncoder in the M4 and M4 Pro is the same.

Unless planning on upgrading the Mini to 32gb RAM then the Studio. Is just wasting money. You can buy two Mini for 1 Studio and unless you going to try and drive the mini hard, which from the description you won’t then is going to be a waste.
Understood. The Mac Mini seems to be the smart move for my needs. The Mac Studio would be overkill. I guess the equivalent to buying a Maserati for daily drives to the mall, grocery store, and occasional golf outing, when a Honda would do the same job.

If I buy the Mini, I would go with a 24/512 model. Same if the Studio.
 
Based off your use case I don't think you'd benefit from an M5 or even an M4 Pro/Max. Unless you want to tell us what games exactly? Even then, I certainly would not be spending that amount of money on a Mac just to play games with a middling-to-poor experience.
Got it (and appreciated).

On the game side, it’s nothing worth mentioning. I play Call of Duty and some Apple Arcade games. I primarily use computers for work, which are the general office type tasks.

The Mini seems to easily be the computer to go with. Just a coin flip if I end up with an M4 vs M5/6.
 
For Office, Master Tour, web and light photo work the Mini is going to feel identical to a Studio. I sit in front of an M2 Ultra Studio every day and the chassis difference only shows up on long AE/FCP exports or sustained LLM runs. The 8-10 week BTO quote is worth taking seriously though — Apple rarely pushes lead times that hard on a config they plan to keep selling, usually it's EOL inventory before a refresh. If you can sit tight a couple weeks past WWDC fallout you'll get more signal; if not, 24/512 base M4 is the sweet spot for your usage.
 
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For Office, Master Tour, web and light photo work the Mini is going to feel identical to a Studio. I sit in front of an M2 Ultra Studio every day and the chassis difference only shows up on long AE/FCP exports or sustained LLM runs. The 8-10 week BTO quote is worth taking seriously though — Apple rarely pushes lead times that hard on a config they plan to keep selling, usually it's EOL inventory before a refresh. If you can sit tight a couple weeks past WWDC fallout you'll get more signal; if not, 24/512 base M4 is the sweet spot for your usage.
Thanks Ben. Points well taken. I’ll sit tight for now. It’s not killing me to wait a bit more, just annoying.
 
Lastly, between the Mini Pro and Studio Max, is the latter a complete waste of money for normal home use (internet, MS Office, light personal photo/video editing), even if I have the money? If I wouldn’t notice any difference between the two computers when doing the mentioned tasks, then I would consider it a “waste.” If I would feel like “wow, that was fast” when doing these tasks, transferring music library files, etc, then I would consider it worth it.

I would say for your use Mini Pro would be more than enough. I have MB Pro M1 32GB RAM, got it in 2021 and do exactly what you say. Video editing is not as fast sometimes, but only if it's a long clip, 15-20 minute clips are quite good. Also I would say it worth considering if you're getting it for 1-2 years, or you plan to keep it for longer, in later case I would probably consder a bit stronger version just so you don't worry if storage/memory will be an issue...

On my full time job we were considering upgrading our laptops on Mac Studios M4. We sometimes do heavy stuff and my corporate MB Pro (have M3) is not always handling it (memory mostly), but in my area they're either not available or waiting time is unreasonably long, so we postponed this till M5 is out.
 
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