Great update, exactly what I was hoping they would announce. A $1500 replacement for my 5yo iMac and MacMini. Only challenge left is determining which monitor to buy.
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MAC MINI (NEW) UNDERWHELMING
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Other than the price as expected for anything Apple I think that it was a good update. Curious to here specifically what you felt was underwhelming.
But do we really have to talk about the Mac Pro pricing? I don't think the Apple tax is a problem, the question is why do they essentially release 8th gen CPUs when we already have 9th gen? Why didn't they make the case a little bigger to allow CPUs with 95W TDP such as the new 9900? Why is the Mini essentially a 15" MBP without the GPU?
I usually prefer my desktops to be more powerful than laptops. Not happening here and the config I'd like is $2.5k, not counting the needed eGPU. I'd rather put that towards the next Mac Pro. So the only way I'd buy one is if the price is right and I can upgrade RAM (seems so), SSD (unlikely) and CPU (someone mentioned it's socketed, but I don't expect it). The ultimate factor will be, is the i7 going to be somewhat silent or sound like a jet engine when under load. If it's silent I might consider the $1.5k version i7 with 512GB and add more external storage and up the RAM myself (but that's only because I have most components already anyway).
I had Mac since 2008 and still own my 2013 rMBP (16gb). I'm familiar on all platforms (Mac,Linux,Windows) and can switch easily. I don't mind the mini, the form factor is great, just an insane markup. Non even talking about the fact that swapping the ram may void warranty because they say that it should be done by a profesionnal.
Take it with a grain of salt, looking at all the idio... ehm, "professionals" on youtube the definition of a professional is probably not what you think it is.
let's wait to see if Linus can do it without breaking the machine, then we know anyone can do it.
the top i7/8gb/256gb + external 2tb ssd is the ideal combo for the money. Wondering if they use a single sodimm or dual 4gb?
Was consider getting one but man I can get a nice gaming desktop with this price
It depends on your use case, it you are not running GPU bound applications this is a fine update. For instance, software development will be fine with the I7 version.
On the other hand, if you want to play 4K video games at 60+ FFS then no, this is not the machine for you.
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Then you should buy the ryzen machine and quit complaining. The Mac mini also doesn't accelerate from 0 to 60 in under three seconds either.
Of course they are. He said specifically that they are SO-DIMMS which some customers will be very happy about.
Linus can't change the batteries in a remote control without breaking it.
Let iJustine try. I like her videos for what they are, she likes tech and is passionate about it, but is not a tech person deep down on a technical level. But honestly, give her a manual, some time to study it and the right tools and I bet it will be a successful upgrade.
I hope single 8GB, but kind of doubt it. Best performance is still dual channel, so that's what they probably do in any config.
On previous Mini you just unscrew the bottom and the RAM slots are right there. I can't see them changing it too much.
A poster on another website was complaining that you could only put 64GB of RAM in the new Mini. Some people are never happy.
I do not know if he realizes that the limitation is placed by Intel, not Apple.
Looked like a solid update to me. Up to 64 GB's of user-upgradeable RAM is certainly a nice surprise. Looks like the Mini is back in business indeed.
For me the GPU is too weak for a desktop though - I was hoping for the dGPU from the MBP. Also, it seems like it's non-standard SSD's again so you are stuck with very expensive options that push the unit price way up needlessly unless you like having little boxes hanging off the machine. Lastly, minor but: i5 processor instead of an i7 - it does seem to lack the oomph a bit in my experience (again, on the desktop). I was expecting an i7 like in 2012, given the rumoured 'pro' focus.
In no way an underwhelming update though - just not everything I had on my bucket list. And I do understand that they can't come out with a Mini that steals customers from their other product lines.
I had my sights set on the 6,1 Mac Pro as a fallback option and will now go for that and give it a chance. If it fails to delight then it'll go back and the mini may show up at my doorstep a bit down the road.
For me the GPU is too weak for a desktop though - I was hoping for the dGPU from the MBP. Also, it seems like it's non-standard SSD's again so you are stuck with very expensive options that push the unit price way up needlessly unless you like having little boxes hanging off the machine. Lastly, minor but: i5 processor instead of an i7 - it does seem to lack the oomph a bit in my experience (again, on the desktop). I was expecting an i7 like in 2012, given the rumoured 'pro' focus.
In no way an underwhelming update though - just not everything I had on my bucket list. And I do understand that they can't come out with a Mini that steals customers from their other product lines.
I had my sights set on the 6,1 Mac Pro as a fallback option and will now go for that and give it a chance. If it fails to delight then it'll go back and the mini may show up at my doorstep a bit down the road.
I agree. But that’s apple for ya.
It’s still a great upgrade and if you wait a while retailers will have deals for $650 on the base version.
I think it’s fantastic.
This was the best keynote in years
The base should have an I5 for $799, you have to drop $1099 before you get an I5
Would it be possible to get RAID0 on TB3 drives?
Nah, maybe it's too late for this kind of questions.
Nah, maybe it's too late for this kind of questions.
I mean seriously? You pop off a lid, and swap a coupleof DIMMs. Couldn't be easier.
My desktop machine is already faster than a mini and my fully loaded rmbp still does is job pretty well. I'm not complaining about the mini, just the price!
It's sad that they deprecrate support after 5 years because most of the time, the hardware age very well (unless you do video production stuff).
The 'i3' is a quad-core now, i3 doesn't mean just dual-core anymore.
I love how some people are complaining that this update is underwhelming. Were you expecting dual (socketed) Xeons, 128GB ECC RAM, a top-end discrete GPU all in the same mini enclosure? and let's not forget liquid cooling so the thing doesn't melt a hole in your desk.
I can see folks being upset about the price of the upgrades but geez, this was a really good update.
I can see folks being upset about the price of the upgrades but geez, this was a really good update.
It's disappointing the SSD can't be upgraded and Apple's pricing on the larger storage is highway robbery.
Beyond that, it's a decent machine but the Apple tax is just too high.
Beyond that, it's a decent machine but the Apple tax is just too high.