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OK, thanks Apple. I'm buying Intel NUC tomorrow. I can't wait for updated Mini any longer. And I like Win 8.1 as much as OS X. That's pity they don't care about people on budget at all. Premium price for 2+ year old hardware? Yeah, right.

That's one good looking and well made PC. Read lot's of good things about the Intel with a number of reviewers calling it the best most complete small form factor unit currently in the market place. Plus if you like W8.1 and what's not to like, then it's a real viable alternative to the Mini.
 
If there is an update, Broadwell was always the logical upgrade for the Mini. Haswell offered very little for a desktop machine and the vanilla Iris graphics wouldn't have been terribly exciting.
 
I sold my iMac to fund a new Mac Mini about a year ago. Thankfully I wasn't holding my breath. In the meantime, my 2011 Mini still works like a charm. It will be a real shame if Apple discontinues it....
 
If there is an update, Broadwell was always the logical upgrade for the Mini. Haswell offered very little for a desktop machine and the vanilla Iris graphics wouldn't have been terribly exciting.

Yup they are waiting to get new hardware and redesign it completely, put a PCI SSD in it and go from there. Anyone who thinks Apple is going to just update the mini with 2.5'' drives - no way. Apple doesn't care if does take some time (look at the mac pro)
 
If there is an update, Broadwell was always the logical upgrade for the Mini. Haswell offered very little for a desktop machine and the vanilla Iris graphics wouldn't have been terribly exciting.

I've been saying this all along. Especially when you look at the price of the CPU's for Haswell. Anything that had an HD5000 or Iris were $100+ more expensive than the chips currently used in the Mini. Thus we would have been left with either HD4400 or HD4600 GPU's which aren't a whole lot faster than Ivy Bridge's HD4000. Further, the actual CPU side Haswell is only about 5% faster, which is virtually nothing. This means that the upgraded Mini's would have been marginally faster than the 2012. Not saying it wouldn't have been nice, but Apple likes to use "2x faster" in marketing which an upgraded Mini with Haswell would not have been anywhere close to (unless they decided to charge a lot more for a base Mini).
 
OK, thanks Apple. I'm buying Intel NUC tomorrow. I can't wait for updated Mini any longer. And I like Win 8.1 as much as OS X. That's pity they don't care about people on budget at all. Premium price for 2+ year old hardware? Yeah, right.
I'm in the same position but I'm not sure what to do; I love OS X, and while I think Intel based NUCs will probably run it as a hackintosh, it's not really something that I want to do, so I guess I'm moving forward with switching all my storage to RAID with my current computer (albeit wasting a ton of space doing so) and swapping it for a nice small Mac Mini later.

I can understand why they haven't bothered with an update, the lack of price cuts is very annoying. Fixed pricing is fine on models that are updated every year, but anything that takes longer should really go down in price, and when the new model is ready it gets introduced at the original price while the cheaper one sticks around until old stock is cleared.

In the case of the Mac Mini, keeping a previous generation model around permanently, or re-releasing it with minor updates, wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing anyway as it would mean even more affordable entry to Macs.
 
I will say this. If there is no mac mini at either the iPad event or iPhone event then yes the mac mini is dead.
 
Also there will come a time when it's possible to load up an iMac with virtually everything a Mac Pro can have in terms of storage, speed, and graphics and there may one day never be a need for Mac Pro. A consumer iMac could handle what most of us do but a "pro" iMac could do the heavy lifting. For some designers I think they have the iMac doing all they need at their job.

But when you already have a 30" monitor on your desk that other computers are hooked up to, you're not going to buy an iMac with an inferior monitor and have to find a place to put it.
 
I'm in the same position but I'm not sure what to do; I love OS X, and while I think Intel based NUCs will probably run it as a hackintosh, it's not really something that I want to do, so I guess I'm moving forward with switching all my storage to RAID with my current computer (albeit wasting a ton of space doing so) and swapping it for a nice small Mac Mini later.

I can understand why they haven't bothered with an update, the lack of price cuts is very annoying. Fixed pricing is fine on models that are updated every year, but anything that takes longer should really go down in price, and when the new model is ready it gets introduced at the original price while the cheaper one sticks around until old stock is cleared.

In the case of the Mac Mini, keeping a previous generation model around permanently, or re-releasing it with minor updates, wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing anyway as it would mean even more affordable entry to Macs.

Agreed. I'd probably buy a 2012 Mini if it had a price cut. I would have to spend around USD 1000,00 to max-out my 2010 Mini with a SSD and 16GB. If they offered a base 2012 Mini + 8GB for the same price, I'd probably get a new Mac instead of upgrading.
 
In Stalinist Russia, the absence of a government official from the May Day Parade viewing stand was considered significant. But a particular piece of hardware not present in a slide produced for a business conference????

Apple doesn't telegraph its punches. If a product is still available (as the Mini certainly is), they don't have people scurrying around Cupertino whispering, "Don't include that in your presentation slides, because it'll be going away." No, if they want to use it in a slide, they'll display it right up until the moment it disappears from the Apple Online Store.

Just as likely, the conversation in Cupertino went like this, "Let's take some of those products out of that slide - they're just cluttering-up the image, and add nothing to the message."

Now, what we do on this forum and what Kremlinologists did, back in the day, can be quite similar. But if you're going to engage in Apple-ology, you need a bit more than one or two questionable data points to produce a certificate of death.

Poetic justice? A presentation slide at the announcement of the next Mini quoting Mark Twain, "The reports of my demise are an exaggeration."
 
Yeah, I got tired of waiting for a new mini so I punched my ticket for a mini deluxe hackintosh. Parts are coming in today and tomorrow and should have it roaring by the end of the weekend. It's definitely not for everyone.

I did it because it's my SECONDARY computer. It's just a backup/plex server/general server. It'll just sit quietly and once in awhile it'll rip dvd's. i5 haswell, 8gb, ssd, a few hdds, small form factor (Corsair 250D) for only $700 when is all said and done.
 
Also there will come a time when it's possible to load up an iMac with virtually everything a Mac Pro can have in terms of storage, speed, and graphics and there may one day never be a need for Mac Pro. A consumer iMac could handle what most of us do but a "pro" iMac could do the heavy lifting. For some designers I think they have the iMac doing all they need at their job.

Not sure about this.

The Mac Pro is designed for extremely effective heat dissipation to handle the processing load (both from the CPU and graphics) that generates that heat, and do it for hours, days, even weeks on end. The iMac form factor simply cannot compete with that; that's just physics. While the Mac Pro is surely a niche machine, especially compared to the iMac, an iMac Pro simply cannot do what the Mac Pro can for some of the customer base. It has been that way for many years, and will continue to be that way for years to come.
 
Not sure about this.

The Mac Pro is designed for extremely effective heat dissipation to handle the processing load (both from the CPU and graphics) that generates that heat, and do it for hours, days, even weeks on end. The iMac form factor simply cannot compete with that; that's just physics. While the Mac Pro is surely a niche machine, especially compared to the iMac, an iMac Pro simply cannot do what the Mac Pro can for some of the customer base. It has been that way for many years, and will continue to be that way for years to come.

I thought by now the industry had a handle on heat dissipation. At least compared to the old days the really hot G4 towers I had where you could feel the heat, things are a lot cooler now. I thought they got to shrinking the die and using way less voltage.

When will it be that super fast processors with enough power to handle graphics can be so cool it doesn't get affected by iMac form factor? At least there aren't the noisy fans in the Mac Pro like my jet engine sounding G4 and dual G4 Powermacs.
 
At this point we shouldn't expect any new Mini until Broadwell comes out. There's really no reason to release a new Haswell model this late in that chip's lifecycle.

As for the keynote, I thought it was one of the best in many years. No new hardware but a lot to be excited about in terms of new API's and capabilities.

I'm looking forward to having 1Password integrated with iOS safari, and VSCO integrated with my Photos app... among many other things.
 
didnt you pay attention to anything about OS8?

Not everybody uses their iOS device as the center of their entertainment world. For some an iPhone is primarily a telephone. For others their iPad is about fiddling around on the Internet. For those people there wasn't much there.

For developers who seek to earn a living by exploiting iOS's new features the keynote was interesting. As a guy who doesn't even use Siri it was only mildly interesting to me.
 
For developers who seek to earn a living by exploiting iOS's new features the keynote was interesting. As a guy who doesn't even use Siri it was only mildly interesting to me.

Unsurprising that the keynote focus would be on stuff that interests developers since it was the Worldwide Developers Conference... :cool:
 
I will say this. If there is no mac mini at either the iPad event or iPhone event then yes the mac mini is dead.

Not that it hasn't been a long time already for the Mac Mini, but wasn't it a long time for the Mac Pro update, which was partly because there was a complete redesign? Honestly, I didn't really believe that would happen as I think the Mac Mini is basically perfect as is, though spec bumps are always nice. That said, the longer we wait, the more one might speculate a more radical update is in the works.
 
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