Mac Mini SSD?

[barkmonster]

My three "non-SSD" Internal sata connected drives in my two MMs all beat my 5 external FW800 driven drives for speed so I guess my FW800 drive controllers are all broken. I hope I can return them after years of wrongly observing their transfer speeds.

That is how my set up physically performs. My internal hard drives in my MMs are all faster than any of my FW800 driven hard drives.

Such is life in the world of hard drives.

I mean this entirely without offence but if 2 of us have shown benchmarks of SSDs vs HDs proving that long transfers/large block size transfers on internal drives are faster than FireWire 800 regardless of whether it's a hard drive or SSD, yet random transfers drop off to 2Mb/s vs 20Mb/s AND you can attest this yourself with the performance of your internal SSD, why the sarcasm about your "broken" FireWire 800 enclosures?

An internal SSD absolutely screams but an external SSD on a FireWire 800 interface will always be faster than an internal hard drive because it's clear that the sustained performance is maybe 20-25% slower if a hard drive is in a firewire 800 enclosure but with an SSD having a 10 fold increase for random transfers over a hard drive, as a boot drive the SSD will always be faster whether it's internal or external.

 

[Roberson]

This opposite comments about Mac Mini SSD making me so confused. I was looking for getting this device, but it seems that there are lot of conflicts still exists regarding its working approach. Can you please give me a simple but authentic idea to have my mind clear about it? What makes it good for user to get it?

 

[silverjam]

yes internal sata hdd is faster then external sata hdd fw800.

it is not faster then external fw800 ssd for any operation other then a long clone. If you want I can give you more information so that you will understand this.

No that's cool. I think we're all splitting hairs with theoretical versus practical speeds but hey that's what keeps the forum interesting Your points are very informative. No matter who is right, I don't think it is practical to run an SSD via FW800 as a permanent option (there are better configs), but as a short-term operation it is the best external option for speed available to MM users (that don't use any faster ports like TB>eSata on the Lacie TB>eSATA Hub for e.g.).

I'll save my comments on SSD for another post. I have a post I will do in the next few days (busy with uni) on OCZ's new procedure to update your firmware on Agility and Vertex III drives (and others) now via Mac without pulling your SSD out. The Linux based App that you boot into via your Mac SuperDrive also allows you to do other things to the OCZ SSD like Secure Erase to reset your SSD to factory state. For now check this link if you use OCZ SSDs. Double check your OCZ drive is on the list that the procedure works on.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/f...-for-OCZ-SSD-s&p=714722&viewfull=1#post714722

See also

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/f...NEW!-Bootable-Linux-based-tools-for-OCZ-SSD-s

Silver.

 

[philipma1957]

.... No matter who is right, I don't think it is practical to run an SSD via FW800 as a permanent option (there are better configs), but as a short-term operation it is the best external option for speed available to MM users (that don't use any faster ports like TB>eSata on the Lacie TB>eSATA Hub for e.g.).

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Silver.

I agree using the fw800 for a long time is not using the ssd to the best method.

Putting it in the mini is best choice.
t-bolt is second best.
fw800 is third choice.

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the first choice has the lowest install cost a 30 usd cable if you want 2 drive setup.


the install is hard.


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t-bolt is easy but is about 140 to 150 in extra parts to install.
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fw800 can run around 35 bucks to do it is easy but not as fast as above.

http://www.capitolsupply.com/catalo...l?cid=gkw_pa&gclid=CIfMyIO81rACFUFo4AodYydl2Q

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I use t-bolt for the ease of use.

if they ever gave us usb3 i would use it for the ease of use.

 

[silverjam]

http://www.belkin.com/thunderbolt/

I am waiting for this Belkin device to possibly come out in September before making the leap to TB. You can get on the email list. When you look at the Lacie Hub with only two eSata ports the Belkin option is heaven for MM and MBA users (like me).

Also DROBO has announced its new TB option.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/6/3067084/drobo-belkin-thunderbolt-peripherals

Silver.