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Mac OS 10.5 (Leopard) in Spring 2007 and iLife Soon?

I really don't mind the wait for Autumn release of Leopard (and iLife '07 plus iWork '07) if it has to be. I'm getting a MBP in May so if it coincides with that then that's all good for me :D
 
steve mentioned in his keynote that he would soon be talking about mac and not ipods. So i'm guessing around mid February there will be an announcement for iLife and iWork seeing how appleTV will be just shipping. The new iLife will look just like appleTV.
I can see appleTV have slow but steady sales as more and more people switch to Macs and buy more and more iPods. The appleTV is an awesome price too. only $299.99 US. That's as much as an 8 gig nano or a 30 gig ipod video.
I know I'll be buying an appleTV in the summer most likely.

as far as Leopard, I HOPE it comes out soon. I'm going to guess it will be talked about in Feb and released in late April, early May.

Just after the iPhone release i expect a new fullscreen video ipod both in flash and in HDD. 16Gig flash, or 80 gig hard drive. this will be for those people who A) can't afford an iPhone, B) aren't interested in the iPhone, C) to help the iPod sales balance out with the iPhone sales, and D) to make everyone's dream come true.

Back to the Leopard release, when it is released they will also be shipping or pre-ordering octo-Macs and new macbooks.

Or atleast, i'm hoping. Because I need a new computer for computer programming, and I want to get leopard so i can have bootcamp built in.

other than that, i expect this to be a very exciting year for apple, and a very big lose of money to my wallet.
 
I'd bet that the reason that Apple is holding its release of iLife is because it will use the super secret new features of Leopard or it is designed in the rumored new Illuminous UI and they are not ready to show that off. I'm guessing that the 2007 iLife will have new features that rely heavily on the new core animation.
 
danielwsmithee said:
I don't think his comments about iLife are all that revealing. It could just mean that we will know soon. "Stay tuned" to me means that we will know soon not necessarily that iLife will be shipping soon. My guess is that iLife and iWork will both require some of the new features in Leopard. Apple will schedule a special "one more thing" media event for TUESDAY January 30th the same day as the Vista consumer launch. They will demo the new features in Leopard, iLife, and iWork, and announce the ship dates in March. They will probably also introduce one more thing shipping that day.
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I'm undecided as to the best time to preview Leopard. Part of me thinks to do it a day or two afterwards to steal the thunder, so to speak, but another part thinks it should be beforehand. As someone mentioned, comparing Vista to Tiger is possible (for the non-informed) but I would think (read: Hope) that Vista will not be at all comparable to Leopard and then when Microsoft unveils it, the news will already have oooo'eh and aaaaaa'ed over the Leopard and be less than impressed with Vista.
 
Hardware refreshes definitely coming out before Leopard

Its just the way Apple does business. All the current Macs will be upgraded or made irresistible to their target markets...like Octocore Pro's...so they capture a ton of upgraders that have been sitting on the sidelines. Then they release Leopard 4-6 weeks later, and capture all the dough flowing out to upgrade to the latest OS with their latest hardware.
 
Uh....

Q: Is iLife still a January refresh time schedule? A: We don't announce future products, but... stay tuned.
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I guess I didn't hear about iPhone last week then.

Or Leopard last year....

Or...

Hey Apple, how about saying no comment instead of flat out lying?
 
Data said:
I think i remember steve saying just that at the last wwdc, that Leopard would be ALL IN ONE , so that the iLife packadge would be a part of the OS, i think he says that right t the start of the keynote even ;-).
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i think you may be right, i made a thread about this, kinda got some discouraging comments though. Well they include it in new purchases, so why not leopard? Nobody was really open minded about my suggestions or any thing i had to say but im still skeptical.
 
TheBobcat said:
Apple NEEDS an event before Vista's release date.

It will be the difference between the media comparing Vista to Tiger, or "Apple's upcoming Leopard".

And if Vista is compared to Tiger, I seriously doubt Tiger will get credit in those comparisons for being nearly TWO YEARS OLD, with some aspects of OSX even older than that.

I think that iLife will come out with Leopard, with a bundle option to buy both at the same time. OR iLife will be included with Leopard to compare with software included with Vista that rips off iPhoto and iMovie (albeit poorly).
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makes perfect sense but when i suggested that in the thread i made about ilife 07 it got shot down also.
 
Not Till WWDC

Macrumors said:


Apple just completed the conference call for their financial results from Q1 2007. As reported Apple posted $1 Billion in profit. A few interesting comments were made during the question and answer section that followed.

First of all, despite concerns about Apple's silence about Leopard may mean that they are behind on it, Apple execs confirmed that they are still planning on shipping Leopard in "Spring 2007":



Second, and perhaps more revealing is that when questioned about when iLife would be updated, they implied it would be very soon:
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My money is on the WWDC. I don't think iLife07 and iWork07 will be released until 10.5 is. It seems there are lots of goodies under the hood in 10.5 and even the Dashcode beta had to have stuff removed to work with 10.4. Of course 10.5 could be released before WWDC 2007 but you know how steve is!
 
Q: Is iLife still a January refresh time schedule? A: We don't announce future products, but... stay tuned.
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My guess is iLife '07 announced on 1.29.07 and available 1.30.07 the day Vista comes out.
 
ipoddin said:
My guess is iLife '07 announced on 1.29.07 and available 1.30.07 the day Vista comes out.
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Not likely guys, remember that Apple is not extimating a lot of business this quater. Most announcement and shipping is likely to occur on or around the next quarter (around March).
We also heard that iLife and iWorks was running a little behind, that also tells me March or so.
I could be wrong.
 
Cool. Can't wait for leopard - looking forward to adding to the delicious generation ;)
 
We are very happy for you:)

Bern said:
I really don't mind the wait for Autumn release of Leopard (and iLife '07 plus iWork '07) if it has to be. I'm getting a MBP in May so if it coincides with that then that's all good for me :D
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We are very happy for you:)
 
powermac_daddy-
"We can switch to PC or Mac. That would be really cool.
AutoCAD or other PC based CAD programs on an Intel Mac?

Is that going to be fast? the same speed as using a damn PC?"

My experience with my RevA CD MBP2GHz is that it is a very fast XP-PC and a very fast Mac.

BTW - I expect to see regular releases, every week to other week for the next month or two. I most like the idea of a multi-touch display or iMac; gonna take some acclimation but a better interface in the long run. Simplest is best IMO.

Z
 
iLife needs to be updated, so we will have some capability to import new hd codecs like AVHDC.
 
interesting psychology

every other post here now thinks that iwork and ilife have not been announced because the somehow rely on leopards new features. ONE guy came up with that a short while ago and now everybody thinks that is true! interesting how the mind works. the fact is, nobody outside of apple knows how, when and why iwork and ilife 07 will or will not be released and which features it will have. dont get me wrong, anybody can have their oppinion i am just wondering why most agree with one unsubstantiated rumor?

just as the eye can play tricks on you, so can the mind. what humans dislike the most is the unknown and uncertainty. so for whatever reason, that one oppinion seems to be the most soothing to most....
 
lilstewart said:
I agree; there will be an Apple event VERY soon.

Mark my words.
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Vista launches on Jan. 30, which is on a Tuesday and the week of the Super Bowl. If Apple wanted to steel the thunder from Vista -- and I'm not saying they should -- Jan. 30 would be a great day to do it.

Something like: A one-hour special event keynote.

* Steve takes the stage, talks about Vista, shows how it's basically Tiger but not as good.

* announces street date and pricing for Leopard, a new jaw-dropping feature that's not in Vista.

* announces iLife/iWork, lots of Cover Flow, more dot-mac stuff, available today.

* announces some iPod sales stats from the recent quarter.

* 500,000 Apple TV's shipping this week, orders above expectations.

* iTunes music, TV and movie downloads. Market share stats.

* TV and movie downloads available today for a half-dozen new countries.

* "American Idol" available today, tons of special features, live singles to be available the morning after the Tuesday performance shows.

* Fox is on board for movies, with 20 new catalog titles available today (including "X-Men," "Ice Age," etc.).

* New iPod lineup, storage bumps in the shuffle and nano, widescreen iPod replacing the white iPod, most of the features from the iPhone but lots more storage than the iPhone.

One More Thing...

* The Beatles, full catalog album catalog, video features, special Yellow Submarine iPod nano.

Personally, I'd rather see them stay away from Vista and do this later, effectively announcing The Beatles in the Super Bowl ad, saving everything else for later, and making something else the One More Thing.

Later this year...

Apple TV is a much bigger part of the strategy than anyone realizes at this point. It has the potential to spawn a recurring revenue GIANT of a subscription service, and the analysts love recurring revenue.

I don't expect to see an actual announcement of a subscription service until later this year, either at WWDC or as part of a refresh of the Apple TV in October for the Christmas market.

I have no idea what pricing would look like, but it will be competitive with cable, will include (nearly) live programming and Apple will finally cave to the studios and offer PPVs for $4.99 for new releases and $3.99 for catalog titles.

Also, I don't think a plasma display marketed as a TV is out of the question sometime this year, particularly as part of a compete display refresh. Two models. Competitively priced.
 
Porchland said:
* Steve takes the stage, talks about Vista, shows how it's basically Tiger but not as good.
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Why? They did that already, and it was awkard and boring. And it makes you think that "Why do you need to resort to badmouthing your competitor like this? Don't you trust the quality and value of your product?". Besides, SJ would already be talking to his followers, there's no need to remind them that Vista sucks.
 
Evangelion said:
Why? They did that already, and it was awkard and boring. And it makes you think that "Why do you need to resort to badmouthing your competitor like this? Don't you trust the quality and value of your product?". Besides, SJ would already be talking to his followers, there's no need to remind them that Vista sucks.
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I was assuming a Stevenote on the same day as the Vista announcement, which I don't necessarily think will or should happen. I just think this is what it will look like if it does happen on Jan. 30.

I think anything he says about Vista will be short and wry and in the context of Apple already having moved past it with Leopard.
 
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