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Mac OS X 10.3 Panther. Why Is it still $129?
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Re: 64-bit
You might want to check your facts. Solaris x86 can be bought, not downloaded for free. Solaris SPARC can be downloaded for free and used at home in a non-production environment. If a company has a maintenance contract, they get free updates and can download it. They do want at least one media kit purchased though. If the company does not have a maintenance contract, Sun wants a license being bought for the machine. This all can be found on their site.
Panther is not a 64-bit OS.
http://theregister.com/content/39/31600.html
You might want to check your facts. Solaris x86 can be bought, not downloaded for free. Solaris SPARC can be downloaded for free and used at home in a non-production environment. If a company has a maintenance contract, they get free updates and can download it. They do want at least one media kit purchased though. If the company does not have a maintenance contract, Sun wants a license being bought for the machine. This all can be found on their site.
Panther is not a 64-bit OS.
http://theregister.com/content/39/31600.html
If you break it down, I suppose you can make it sound good vfm. I think thats harder to do with Panther though, there weren't a great deal of 'KillerApps' in the Panther presentation (in my opinion). It is starting to feel like a tax, $99 for .mac $129 for Jaguar, $129 for Panther, whats next year finder-pay-per-click!
Obviously thats taking it too far, but I do feel I should be setting up a standing order to Apple at my Bank. Just take $250 a year, that should cover my .mac and any 'upgrades'.Would it be Steve jobs who makes the decisions about how much Apple stuff goes out for, or is it an accountant type? All those stores can't be cheap at all, thats probably why we're gettin hit for money annually.
ho hum, when's Panther released then?
p.s whats Steve Job's email address then? steve@apple.com or did he shell out the $99 for a .mac?
Well, considering that we have a Mac OS that works just fine, 10.2.6, I see no problems in Apple charging $129 for their new software.
10.3 is a big change from 10.2. There are alot of internal changes that you will not notice but make a huge difference. For one thing, the whole kernel is being upgraded to the latest version. Expose is awesome, fast user switching...
If the price is too high for one to justify the purchase, just like I said for 10.2... Don't buy it. Jaguar will still work. It is not like users will lose any current functionality when panther comes out. For those that want to pay for the new features, I see nothing wrong with paying Apple for the work they have done.
Compare the work apple has done on their os to Microsoft. Apple is actually able to put out decent upgrades to their software. WinXP is barely better than 2K. I wouldn't pay to upgrade from one to the other.
10.3 is a big change from 10.2. There are alot of internal changes that you will not notice but make a huge difference. For one thing, the whole kernel is being upgraded to the latest version. Expose is awesome, fast user switching...
If the price is too high for one to justify the purchase, just like I said for 10.2... Don't buy it. Jaguar will still work. It is not like users will lose any current functionality when panther comes out. For those that want to pay for the new features, I see nothing wrong with paying Apple for the work they have done.
Compare the work apple has done on their os to Microsoft. Apple is actually able to put out decent upgrades to their software. WinXP is barely better than 2K. I wouldn't pay to upgrade from one to the other.
Originally posted by ump3
p.s whats Steve Job's email address then? steve@apple.com or did he shell out the $99 for a .mac?
As far as I know you can email him a Mac or Apple. So SJobs@mac.com or SJobs@Apple.com .
$129 is an upgrade price. Every last copy of the Mac OS sold is an upgrade, since it'll only work on a machine that came with some licensed version of the Mac OS in the first place. With respect to developers needing it, that's why you get a free copy of every OS update when you're in any of the paid developer programs. About the "point release", look at the time between paid updates and the features included; Apple is just bumping the version number by .1 each time to be able to keep calling it Mac Oh Ess Ten until 2010 or so. I personally prefer this numbering scheme over the inflationary numbering schemes of the past...
Re: 64-bit
At least, what I've found of it...states that "Panther Will not be a 64-bit OS."
EDIT: Dammit, somebody beat me to it.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/31600.html
At least, what I've found of it...states that "Panther Will not be a 64-bit OS."
EDIT: Dammit, somebody beat me to it.
I think Panther is worth it. It has so many new features that I want and need.
- proper 5.1 sound support
- hardware de-interlacing in the DVD player
- improved graphics performance (according to www.xlr8yourmac.com)
I think these new features are worth the upgrade allone. I have 3 Macs at home, 2 with 10.2 and one with 10.1. When I get Panther will will be able to (legally) use my jag disk to upgrade the 10.1 machine. All the people that don't want to pay $130 for 10.3 had better not get an illegal copy since I will be really pissed off. This is because SJ said he would include activation similar to Windows XP in all new version of Mac OS, if people continue to pirate Mac OS.
- proper 5.1 sound support
- hardware de-interlacing in the DVD player
- improved graphics performance (according to www.xlr8yourmac.com)
I think these new features are worth the upgrade allone. I have 3 Macs at home, 2 with 10.2 and one with 10.1. When I get Panther will will be able to (legally) use my jag disk to upgrade the 10.1 machine. All the people that don't want to pay $130 for 10.3 had better not get an illegal copy since I will be really pissed off. This is because SJ said he would include activation similar to Windows XP in all new version of Mac OS, if people continue to pirate Mac OS.
Come on!
I very much agree with gbojim. Just compare OSX prices with XP pro! I experience OSX pricing as very fair. I also do appreciate Apple continually listening to their customers and many times applying their input very much, with MS everything is being pushed down your throat. Many Apple users really very much under estimate Apple's efforts on the OSX front. The only ridiculous thing with Apple are their memory prices driving custumors to 3rd party dealers. I will gladly pay another $129 also knowing Apple will reinvest it to keep their demanding custumors sattisfied.
I very much agree with gbojim. Just compare OSX prices with XP pro! I experience OSX pricing as very fair. I also do appreciate Apple continually listening to their customers and many times applying their input very much, with MS everything is being pushed down your throat. Many Apple users really very much under estimate Apple's efforts on the OSX front. The only ridiculous thing with Apple are their memory prices driving custumors to 3rd party dealers. I will gladly pay another $129 also knowing Apple will reinvest it to keep their demanding custumors sattisfied.
Re: Come on!
I agree that OSX's price is quite fair when you look at the industry as a whole. Also I keep hearing people complain about Apples memory prices but they seem right in line with Dell, Compaq, IBM, or Sony if you do a custom setup. Yes 3rd party memory is cheaper so is 3rd party video cards, hard drives, removable media drives, etc..
Originally posted by matthew24
I very much agree with gbojim. Just compare OSX prices with XP pro! I experience OSX pricing as very fair. I also do appreciate Apple continually listening to their customers and many times applying their input very much, with MS everything is being pushed down your throat. Many Apple users really very much under estimate Apple's efforts on the OSX front. The only ridiculous thing with Apple are their memory prices driving custumors to 3rd party dealers. I will gladly pay another $129 also knowing Apple will reinvest it to keep their demanding custumors sattisfied.
I agree that OSX's price is quite fair when you look at the industry as a whole. Also I keep hearing people complain about Apples memory prices but they seem right in line with Dell, Compaq, IBM, or Sony if you do a custom setup. Yes 3rd party memory is cheaper so is 3rd party video cards, hard drives, removable media drives, etc..
Re: Re: Come on!
Actually I find their memory prices more then fair. Add in the fact that they will install it for you (if you are ordering a system) and be covered under the warranty, makes it all so much better. The peecee side really jacks the prices up for everyone but the largest companies. I believe they recently have started to lower their prices though. Not too long ago, there were times where you could buy the upgrade for half the cost they were charging.
Kingston 512MB memory modules for the iMac:
$129
$179 SODIMM
Total is $308 for 1GB. Apple charges $400 to have 1GB installed when you order. You also don't have a module left over if you did it yourself.
Actually I find their memory prices more then fair. Add in the fact that they will install it for you (if you are ordering a system) and be covered under the warranty, makes it all so much better. The peecee side really jacks the prices up for everyone but the largest companies. I believe they recently have started to lower their prices though. Not too long ago, there were times where you could buy the upgrade for half the cost they were charging.
Kingston 512MB memory modules for the iMac:
$129
$179 SODIMM
Total is $308 for 1GB. Apple charges $400 to have 1GB installed when you order. You also don't have a module left over if you did it yourself.