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Darn, this means the chance of Leopard at MWSF '07 had gone out the window but still...bring in the updates---Leopard or not!

It was never going to be released at MWSF. That should have been obvious from at least WWDC this year - there's a lot of work yet to be done.

MWSF will have a big preview, no release, no shipping date announced, just a big preview.
 
To my memory, I remember 10.3.9 being released a few days after they announced the 10.4 shipping date. Now, I'm with Chundles. We'll probably see a 10.4.10. On the other hand, though, Apple seems to want devs to thoroughly review everything about 10.4.9. Nevertheless, I doubt we'll be using 10.4.9 until April (that's my guess when it comes out.)

EDIT: 10.3.9 was released on 4.15.06; 10.4.0 was released on 4.29.06.
 
so what group, exactly, DO you Gallifreyans get along with? Or tolerate? Must be lonely out there, compadre.

Well, for the longest time outworlders were forbidden to visit Gallifrey proper, and throughout the millenia our alliances and partnerships flourished.

Then, someone got the bright idea to invite Daleks over for tea. They kept shouting "¡Usted será exterminado!" Oh well, now Gallifrey makes the Alderaan star system look like a picnic!

:)
 
everybody-

Just because software versions aren't numbered normally, does not mean I can't hope that they will be.

For people to SHOUT and reference crap over something that's not to be taken seriously is a little bit over the top, don't you think?

You all take using a computer waaaaaaaaay too seriously.

Zwida, you might enjoy a little laughter once and a while. You take all the fun out of being a fanboy.

-=|Mgkwho
 
This is one of those holy crap moments,

.Mac Sync actually works at synchronizing your data between Tiger and Leopard systems. Try it out! You'll love it.
 
This better fix the problem with Safari regarding flash and drop down menus.

For example, on BestBuy.com, when you try and select an item from a drop down menu (such as Software under Computers), the menu flickers or disappears.

...Drives me crazy.
 
everybody-

Just because software versions aren't numbered normally, does not mean I can't hope that they will be.

For people to SHOUT and reference crap over something that's not to be taken seriously is a little bit over the top, don't you think?

You all take using a computer waaaaaaaaay too seriously.

Zwida, you might enjoy a little laughter once and a while. You take all the fun out of being a fanboy.

-=|Mgkwho
I quite honestly like how apples updates are labeled, they make much more sense to me than MS's
 
This better fix the problem with Safari regarding flash and drop down menus.

For example, on BestBuy.com, when you try and select an item from a drop down menu (such as Software under Computers), the menu flickers or disappears.

...Drives me crazy.

works fine for me, but i notice sometimes my curser disapears on pages with flash. That bothers the hell out of me
 
This better fix the problem with Safari regarding flash and drop down menus.

For example, on BestBuy.com, when you try and select an item from a drop down menu (such as Software under Computers), the menu flickers or disappears.

...Drives me crazy.

Yeah, that happens to me a LOT on many sites. It requires some curved learning to do.
 
Has Apple ever released a 10.x.x.x incremental update or did they always stick with 10.x.x numbering scheme?. My point is what would happen if they release 10.4.9 then there is some major bug that news an additional update, will that mean they will put out a 10.4.9.1 update?
 
Has Apple ever released a 10.x.x.x incremental update or did they always stick with 10.x.x numbering scheme?. My point is what would happen if they release 10.4.9 then there is some major bug that news an additional update, will that mean they will put out a 10.4.9.1 update?

Most likely it would be put out as a security update. If you look at your updates, lots of security updates and component updates come along such as java and airport. They are later bundle as a 10.x.x update with additional changes.
 
To my memory, I remember 10.3.9 being released a few days after they announced the 10.4 shipping date. Now, I'm with Chundles. We'll probably see a 10.4.10. On the other hand, though, Apple seems to want devs to thoroughly review everything about 10.4.9. Nevertheless, I doubt we'll be using 10.4.9 until April (that's my guess when it comes out.)

EDIT: 10.3.9 was released on 4.15.06; 10.4.0 was released on 4.29.06.

I think we will see a 10.4.10, they like to release a final update close to shipping of the new OS to ensure compatability.
(as they did with 10.3.9 and 10.2.8) (see wikipedia articles for the OS X versions).
 
Has Apple ever released a 10.x.x.x incremental update or did they always stick with 10.x.x numbering scheme?. My point is what would happen if they release 10.4.9 then there is some major bug that news an additional update, will that mean they will put out a 10.4.9.1 update?


Not in that way, but there have been some things like that:
  • Mac OS 9.0.4 v2
  • System 7.0.1P
  • System 7.1.2P
  • System 7.5.3 Revision 2
  • System 7.5.3 Revision 2.1
  • System 7.5.3 Revision 2.2

And there were a few others, but I can't remember. I want to say that I read something about a Mac OS X release with a v2 after it, but I can't remember which one.
 
I think we will see a 10.4.10

I sure hope so. That should put an end to the "10.x.9 is the last version so we will see the new OS sooooooon" whining. Until they do, people cannot understand that the release number is not a decimal number; or, that the "ten" can be omitted and thus say "the current Macintosh version is OSX 4.8" because the OSX and ten-dot mean exactly the same thing.

Sheesh, I'm so tired about this. Hopefully Apple puts this topic to rest just as they buried the "PowerBook G5 next tuesday" with the Intel announcement ;)
 
M-router support for Symbian in new iSync?

Any news about an upgrade of iSync with "m-router support" for Symbian phones via Bluetooth? This is desperately needed by all Sony-Ericsson P990 owners (and others).
 
I hope they fix the serious networking issues in Tiger. Sometimes, no network items appear at all for me, and other Macs often don't appear at all in the network area, while Windows shares do.

Also, if I try and eject a network drive because it isn't reachable (such as the other machine has been shut down, or I've turned off my wifi), then the whole machine crashes, and it's the same for everyone else I know who's on Tiger.

Not what I'd expect from a computer costing me £1500, FIX IT PLEASE APPLE!
 
They won't try releasing near Vista. Release before Vista and everyone talks about you until the end of Jan and then they forget about you. Release right after and you look like you are trying too hard to do a "me too". Apple will wait it out and release as soon as the hubub about Vista dies down so people will look at it and go "hey, this is much better" and it will make OS X the most up-to-date system.

Exactly! Release just before Vista and the excitement lasts a few days, until Vista comes out. Release just after Vista and there will be hardly any excitement because all the focus will be on the OS 90% of the world uses. Release at least a month (or maybe two) after Vista and OS X could be the answer for the people that ended up being disappointed with Vista.

As far as I can tell now there is nothing in Leopard I can't wait just a couple of months for if it would mean a better OS in the end. Please let Apple don't rush this.
 
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