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Amethyst1

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"Universal" means both PPC and Intel, yes. Are you using a 10.5 Server template when setting up the VM? What kind of controller (IDE, SATA, SCSI) are the virtual hard drive and DVD drive attached to?
 

kmacnewuser

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I have the "unlocker" that gives the ability to run mac os inside a virtual machine... through trial and error I have gotten versions 10.5 server, 10.6 server, and desktop versions 10.7 all the way up to 10.15 to work as virtual machines.
The unlocker doesnt have an option for 10.4 server so i tried 10.5, 32 bit server "template" and I did edit the vmx file with that long list of CPUID's and I got to the point where it starts to load, i see the apple logo and the twirling "thinking" icon on below.. then I see the no entry icon.

I tried SATA and IDE and scisi drive configurations.
I tried also sata and IDE on the cd/dvd

I must say that I had to convert the disk that was the server 10.4.7 from dmg to iso using a program called poweriso that can convert disk images. I dont know if that conversion somehow messed up the image....

something tells me that the virtual disk might not be correct... hmmm..

any additional ideas would be welcome.

"Universal" means both PPC and Intel, yes. Are you using a 10.5 Server template when setting up the VM? What kind of controller (IDE, SATA, SCSI) are the virtual hard drive and DVD drive attached to?
 
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Amethyst1

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@kmacnewuser - A couple of years ago I had no problems installing Server 10.4.7 using VMware Fusion (on a Mac) and a 10.5 Server template (which attaches HDD and DVD to a LSI Logic SCSI controller IIRC) but I was able to use the straight .dmg, so it is possible that the conversion to .iso messed up something. The stop sign usually means that OS X cannot find the root device (DVD). Can you post the contents of your .vmx file here?
 
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kmacnewuser

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hello.. well I have to remind you that im doing all this in vmware workstation 15.5 on a windows 10 64 bit pc.. not a mac. So it seems that the windows version doesnt allow a dmg file to be attached to the dvd or cd.
lol
attached is a screenshot of what I got
and here is the vmx file

.encoding = "windows-1253"
cpuid.inhibitDarwinMasks = "TRUE"
monitor_control.enable_fullcpuid = "TRUE"
cpuid.0.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1010"
cpuid.0.ebx = "0111:0101:0110:1110:0110:0101:0100:0111"
cpuid.0.ecx = "0110:1100:0110:0101:0111:0100:0110:1110"
cpuid.0.edx = "0100:1001:0110:0101:0110:1110:0110:1001"
cpuid.1.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0110:1111:0110"
cpuid.1.ebx = "0000:0001:0000:0010:0000:1000:0000:0000"
cpuid.1.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:1110:0011:1011:1101"
cpuid.1.edx = "1011:1111:1110:1011:1111:1011:1111:1111"
cpuid.2.eax = "0000:0101:1011:0000:1011:0001:0000:0001"
cpuid.2.ebx = "0000:0000:0101:0110:0101:0111:1111:0000"
cpuid.2.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.2.edx = "0010:1100:1011:0100:0011:0000:0100:1001"
cpuid.3.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.0.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0000:0001:0010:0001"
cpuid.4.0.ebx = "0000:0001:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.0.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.0.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.1.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0000:0001:0010:0010"
cpuid.4.1.ebx = "0000:0001:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.1.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.1.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.2.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0100:0001:0100:0011"
cpuid.4.2.ebx = "0000:0011:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.2.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1111:1111:1111"
cpuid.4.2.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.3.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.5.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.5.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.5.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011"
cpuid.5.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0010:0010:0010:0010:0000"
cpuid.6.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.6.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0010"
cpuid.6.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.6.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.eax = "0000:0111:0010:1000:0000:0010:0000:0010"
cpuid.a.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.eax = "1000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1000"
cpuid.80000000.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.80000001.edx = "0010:0000:0001:0000:0000:1000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000002.eax = "0110:0101:0111:0100:0110:1110:0100:1001"
cpuid.80000002.ebx = "0010:1001:0101:0010:0010:1000:0110:1100"
cpuid.80000002.ecx = "0111:0010:0110:1111:0100:0011:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000002.edx = "0100:1101:0101:0100:0010:1000:0110:0101"
cpuid.80000003.eax = "0100:0011:0010:0000:0011:0010:0010:1001"
cpuid.80000003.ebx = "0010:0000:0010:0000:0101:0101:0101:0000"
cpuid.80000003.ecx = "0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000003.edx = "0101:0100:0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000004.eax = "0011:0000:0011:0000:0011:0110:0011:0111"
cpuid.80000004.ebx = "0010:0000:0100:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000004.ecx = "0011:0011:0011:0011:0010:1110:0011:0010"
cpuid.80000004.edx = "0000:0000:0111:1010:0100:1000:0100:0111"
cpuid.80000005.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.ecx = "0001:0000:0000:0000:1000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.80000006.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
config.version = "8"
virtualHW.version = "16"
pciBridge0.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge4.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge4.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge4.functions = "8"
pciBridge5.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge5.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge5.functions = "8"
pciBridge6.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge6.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge6.functions = "8"
pciBridge7.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge7.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge7.functions = "8"
vmci0.present = "TRUE"
hpet0.present = "TRUE"
ich7m.present = "TRUE"
board-id.reflectHost = "TRUE"
displayName = "Mac OS X Server 10.47 32-bit"
guestOS = "darwin"
nvram = "Mac OS X Server 10.47 32-bit.nvram"
virtualHW.productCompatibility = "hosted"
powerType.powerOff = "soft"
powerType.powerOn = "soft"
powerType.suspend = "soft"
powerType.reset = "soft"
usb.vbluetooth.startConnected = "TRUE"
smc.present = "TRUE"
smbios.restrictSerialCharset = "TRUE"
firmware = "efi"
tools.syncTime = "FALSE"
memsize = "2048"
sata0.present = "TRUE"
sata0:0.fileName = "F:\!!!!!!!Master Downloads\_MAC\__MAC os new files\Mac_OS_X_Server_10.4.7_universal.iso"
sata0:1.fileName = "Mac OS X Server 10.47 32-bit.vmdk"
usb.present = "TRUE"
ehci.present = "TRUE"
ethernet0.connectionType = "nat"
ethernet0.addressType = "generated"
ethernet0.virtualDev = "e1000"
ethernet0.present = "TRUE"
extendedConfigFile = "Mac OS X Server 10.47 32-bit.vmxf"
numa.autosize.cookie = "10012"
numa.autosize.vcpu.maxPerVirtualNode = "1"
uuid.bios = "56 4d 9c 9c f4 2f a4 1c-8e c7 69 23 f4 d4 fc fa"
uuid.location = "56 4d 9c 9c f4 2f a4 1c-8e c7 69 23 f4 d4 fc fa"
sata0:0.redo = ""
pciBridge0.pciSlotNumber = "17"
pciBridge4.pciSlotNumber = "21"
pciBridge5.pciSlotNumber = "22"
pciBridge6.pciSlotNumber = "23"
pciBridge7.pciSlotNumber = "24"
usb.pciSlotNumber = "32"
ethernet0.pciSlotNumber = "33"
ehci.pciSlotNumber = "34"
vmci0.pciSlotNumber = "35"
sata0.pciSlotNumber = "36"
svga.vramSize = "268435456"
vmotion.checkpointFBSize = "134217728"
vmotion.checkpointSVGAPrimarySize = "268435456"
ethernet0.generatedAddress = "00:0c:29:d4:fc:fa"
ethernet0.generatedAddressOffset = "0"
vmci0.id = "-187368198"
monitor.phys_bits_used = "43"
cleanShutdown = "FALSE"
softPowerOff = "FALSE"
usb:1.speed = "2"
usb:1.present = "TRUE"
usb:1.deviceType = "hub"
usb:1.port = "1"
usb:1.parent = "-1"
toolsInstallManager.updateCounter = "13"
tools.remindInstall = "FALSE"
workingDir = "."
floppy0.present = "FALSE"
scsi0.virtualDev = "lsilogic"
scsi0.present = "TRUE"
scsi0:0.fileName = "Mac OS X Server 10.47 32-bit.vmdk"
scsi0:0.redo = ""
scsi0.pciSlotNumber = "16"
sata0:1.present = "TRUE"
sata0:0.deviceType = "cdrom-image"
sata0:0.present = "TRUE"
sata0:1.redo = ""
usb:0.present = "TRUE"
usb:0.deviceType = "hid"
usb:0.port = "0"

@kmacnewuser - A couple of years ago I had no problems installing Server 10.4.7 using VMware Fusion (on a Mac) and a 10.5 Server template (which attaches HDD and DVD to a LSI Logic SCSI controller IIRC) but I was able to use the straight .dmg, so it is possible that the conversion to .iso messed up something. The stop sign usually means that OS X cannot find the root device (DVD). Can you post the contents of your .vmx file here?
 

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Amethyst1

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Looking at your VMX, I see you have the DVD attached to SATA and the HDD attached to both SCSI and SATA at the same time. That's not going to work. I just created a 10.5 Server VM in VMware Fusion, and the resulting VMX looks like this -

.encoding = "UTF-8"
config.version = "8"
virtualHW.version = "9"
scsi0.present = "TRUE"
scsi0.virtualDev = "lsilogic"
scsi1.present = "TRUE"
scsi1.virtualDev = "lsilogic"
memsize = "1024"
scsi0:0.present = "TRUE"
scsi0:0.fileName = "VHD.vmdk"
scsi1:0.present = "TRUE"
scsi1:0.autodetect = "TRUE"
scsi1:0.deviceType = "cdrom-raw"

ethernet0.present = "TRUE"
ethernet0.connectionType = "nat"
ethernet0.virtualDev = "e1000"
ethernet0.wakeOnPcktRcv = "FALSE"
ethernet0.addressType = "generated"
ethernet0.linkStatePropagation.enable = "TRUE"
usb.present = "TRUE"
ehci.present = "TRUE"
ehci.pciSlotNumber = "35"
pciBridge0.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge4.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge4.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge4.functions = "8"
pciBridge5.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge5.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge5.functions = "8"
pciBridge6.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge6.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge6.functions = "8"
pciBridge7.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge7.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge7.functions = "8"
vmci0.present = "TRUE"
smc.present = "TRUE"
hpet0.present = "TRUE"
ich7m.present = "TRUE"
usb.vbluetooth.startConnected = "TRUE"
firmware = "efi"
tools.syncTime = "TRUE"
displayName = "Mac OS X Server 10.4"
guestOS = "darwin"
nvram = "Mac OS X Server 10.4.nvram"
virtualHW.productCompatibility = "hosted"
keyboardAndMouseProfile = "5211b9a1-a2d6-7c83-10ac-ad136b73"
proxyApps.publishToHost = "FALSE"
tools.upgrade.policy = "upgradeAtPowerCycle"
powerType.powerOff = "soft"
powerType.powerOn = "soft"
powerType.suspend = "soft"
powerType.reset = "soft"
floppy0.present = "FALSE"
extendedConfigFile = "Mac OS X Server 10.4.vmxf"
checkpoint.vmState = ""
scsi0.pciSlotNumber = "16"
scsi1.pciSlotNumber = "32"
ethernet0.generatedAddress = "00:0c:29:5f:03:4c"
ethernet0.pciSlotNumber = "34"
usb.pciSlotNumber = "33"
vmci0.id = "1818166092"
vmci0.pciSlotNumber = "36"
uuid.location = "56 4d 8d 40 53 a1 06 7a-8f eb 4a 8d 6c 5f 03 4c"
uuid.bios = "56 4d 8d 40 53 a1 06 7a-8f eb 4a 8d 6c 5f 03 4c"
cleanShutdown = "TRUE"
replay.supported = "FALSE"
replay.filename = ""
scsi0:0.redo = ""
pciBridge0.pciSlotNumber = "17"
pciBridge4.pciSlotNumber = "21"
pciBridge5.pciSlotNumber = "22"
pciBridge6.pciSlotNumber = "23"
pciBridge7.pciSlotNumber = "24"
usb:0.present = "TRUE"
usb:1.present = "TRUE"
ethernet0.generatedAddressOffset = "0"
vmotion.checkpointFBSize = "67108864"
softPowerOff = "FALSE"
usb:0.deviceType = "hid"
usb:0.port = "0"
usb:0.parent = "-1"
usb:1.speed = "2"
usb:1.deviceType = "hub"
usb:1.port = "1"
usb:1.parent = "-1"


So there's two LSI Logic SCSI controllers (no IDE, no SATA) and the HDD is attached to the first, the DVD is attached to the second.
Can you boot if you modify your VM's storage config to match mine (plus the lines to fake a Core 2 Duo, of course). If it still doesn't work, it's probably your .iso.

EDIT: One thing you can try if you have a burner and a blank DVD is burning the .iso to disc, attaching your DVD drive to the VM and booting from the physical disc. Just in case VMware doesn't like the .iso (I've had that happen).
 
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kmacnewuser

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Apr 27, 2020
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Looking at your VMX, I see you have the DVD attached to SATA and the HDD attached to both SCSI and SATA at the same time. That's not going to work. I just created a 10.5 Server VM in VMware Fusion, and the resulting VMX looks like this -

.encoding = "UTF-8"
config.version = "8"
virtualHW.version = "9"
scsi0.present = "TRUE"
scsi0.virtualDev = "lsilogic"
scsi1.present = "TRUE"
scsi1.virtualDev = "lsilogic"
memsize = "1024"
scsi0:0.present = "TRUE"
scsi0:0.fileName = "VHD.vmdk"
scsi1:0.present = "TRUE"
scsi1:0.autodetect = "TRUE"
scsi1:0.deviceType = "cdrom-raw"

ethernet0.present = "TRUE"
ethernet0.connectionType = "nat"
ethernet0.virtualDev = "e1000"
ethernet0.wakeOnPcktRcv = "FALSE"
ethernet0.addressType = "generated"
ethernet0.linkStatePropagation.enable = "TRUE"
usb.present = "TRUE"
ehci.present = "TRUE"
ehci.pciSlotNumber = "35"
pciBridge0.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge4.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge4.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge4.functions = "8"
pciBridge5.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge5.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge5.functions = "8"
pciBridge6.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge6.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge6.functions = "8"
pciBridge7.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge7.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge7.functions = "8"
vmci0.present = "TRUE"
smc.present = "TRUE"
hpet0.present = "TRUE"
ich7m.present = "TRUE"
usb.vbluetooth.startConnected = "TRUE"
firmware = "efi"
tools.syncTime = "TRUE"
displayName = "Mac OS X Server 10.4"
guestOS = "darwin"
nvram = "Mac OS X Server 10.4.nvram"
virtualHW.productCompatibility = "hosted"
keyboardAndMouseProfile = "5211b9a1-a2d6-7c83-10ac-ad136b73"
proxyApps.publishToHost = "FALSE"
tools.upgrade.policy = "upgradeAtPowerCycle"
powerType.powerOff = "soft"
powerType.powerOn = "soft"
powerType.suspend = "soft"
powerType.reset = "soft"
floppy0.present = "FALSE"
extendedConfigFile = "Mac OS X Server 10.4.vmxf"
checkpoint.vmState = ""
scsi0.pciSlotNumber = "16"
scsi1.pciSlotNumber = "32"
ethernet0.generatedAddress = "00:0c:29:5f:03:4c"
ethernet0.pciSlotNumber = "34"
usb.pciSlotNumber = "33"
vmci0.id = "1818166092"
vmci0.pciSlotNumber = "36"
uuid.location = "56 4d 8d 40 53 a1 06 7a-8f eb 4a 8d 6c 5f 03 4c"
uuid.bios = "56 4d 8d 40 53 a1 06 7a-8f eb 4a 8d 6c 5f 03 4c"
cleanShutdown = "TRUE"
replay.supported = "FALSE"
replay.filename = ""
scsi0:0.redo = ""
pciBridge0.pciSlotNumber = "17"
pciBridge4.pciSlotNumber = "21"
pciBridge5.pciSlotNumber = "22"
pciBridge6.pciSlotNumber = "23"
pciBridge7.pciSlotNumber = "24"
usb:0.present = "TRUE"
usb:1.present = "TRUE"
ethernet0.generatedAddressOffset = "0"
vmotion.checkpointFBSize = "67108864"
softPowerOff = "FALSE"
usb:0.deviceType = "hid"
usb:0.port = "0"
usb:0.parent = "-1"
usb:1.speed = "2"
usb:1.deviceType = "hub"
usb:1.port = "1"
usb:1.parent = "-1"


So there's two LSI Logic SCSI controllers (no IDE, no SATA) and the HDD is attached to the first, the DVD is attached to the second.
Can you boot if you modify your VM's storage config to match mine (plus the lines to fake a Core 2 Duo, of course). If it still doesn't work, it's probably your .iso.

those 2 settings sata and scisi got that way because of my experimentation lol.. I will try to match yours and we will see..... were you installing the same version of server as me (10.4.7) ? Im just a techie geek that is curious to have various OS in virtual machines since I dont have much space to have physical machines of all kinds. Ill report back.
 

Amethyst1

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were you installing the same version of server as me (10.4.7) ? Im just a techie geek that is curious to have various OS in virtual machines since I dont have much space to have physical machines of all kinds. Ill report back.

I've just added something to my previous post that's worth giving a shot if everything else fails. To answer your questions - yes, I've used the exact same version of Tiger Server, 10.4.7 build 8K1079. I also discovered that only this 10.4.7 and 10.4.11 would boot in VMware, other 10.4.x for Intel versions wouldn't. I'm in the same boat as you - space limits me to a finite number of machines and the more OSes I can virtualise, the better - although OS X VMs are quite limited by the lack of graphics acceleration.
 

kmacnewuser

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Apr 27, 2020
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I've just added something to my previous post that's worth giving a shot if everything else fails. To answer your questions - yes, I've used the exact same version of Tiger Server, 10.4.7 build 8K1079. I also discovered that only this 10.4.7 and 10.4.11 would boot in VMware, other 10.4.x for Intel versions wouldn't. I'm in the same boat as you - space limits me to a finite number of machines and the more OSes I can virtualise, the better - although OS X VMs are quite limited by the lack of graphics acceleration.
Thanks for the burn to dvd tip.. I had tried that too! lol..

So I thought I would try something else.. i made a copy of my 10.5 server edition vm. I created a second new hard disk with scisi and formated from inside the virtual machine i attached the 10.4.7 image.. and then i saw that there is a pckg option to install from running from within a working mac.... when I try that I get this message which I think is the real culprit.. it doesnt like the virtual disks somehow.. but im clueless on what else to do. See attached screenshot
 

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Amethyst1

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What happens if you manually change the

virtualHW.version = "16"

line to say

virtualHW.version = "9"

like in my config? That downgrades the hardware to an older version used by Workstation 9.
 
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pipetogrep

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I'm curious, is running OS X as a host a prerequisite to this. I can never get it to boot. Seems to error out here consistently. Running in VirtualBox 7 on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed.
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Amethyst1

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I can never get it to boot. Seems to error out here consistently.
Is your Tiger image’s checksum OK? Are you using the DMG or the ISO? I have no issues booting from the DMG... on a macOS host, that is.
 
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I use a copy of the Tiger 10.4.11 (not server) that I installed for my MacPro3,1. I use a virtual machine on my Skylake (2016) Hackintosh.
I used mostly the instructions at https://github.com/ranma42/TigerOnVBox

Create or fix the ServerVersion.plist file so that VirtualBox thinks you're running the server version. This should only need to be done once. But you may need to do it again if the VM is not shutdown properly.
Code:
# Create or fix the ServerVersion.plist file

hdiutil attach /Volumes/FreeBig/DiskImages/Tiger.dmg
thevolume="/Volumes/Tiger 1"
echo '/bin/rm /System/Library/CoreServices/ServerVersion.plist' >> "${thevolume}/etc/rc.local"
echo '/bin/cp /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist /System/Library/CoreServices/ServerVersion.plist' >> "${thevolume}/etc/rc.shutdown.local"
cp "${thevolume}/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist" "${thevolume}/System/Library/CoreServices/ServerVersion.plist"
diskutil eject "${thevolume}"

Create a virtual box disk from a disk image (GPT formatted with one partition containing Tiger).
Code:
VBoxManage convertfromraw "/Volumes/FreeBig/DiskImages/Tiger.dmg" "/Volumes/FreeBig/DiskImages/Tiger.vmdk" --format VMDK
It doesn't appear that VirtualBox can create a disk image that points to a dmg file for the disk data like Parallels Desktop for Mac can? Or maybe you can do it manually (without a command line)?

Change some settings in the VM:
Code:
thevm="Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger"
VBoxManage modifyvm "$thevm" --mouse usb
VBoxManage modifyvm "$thevm" --firmware efi
VBoxManage modifyvm "$thevm" --cpu-profile 'Intel Pentium 4 3.00GHz'
VBoxManage modifyvm "$thevm" --cpuidset 00000000 00000004 756e6547 6c65746e 49656e69
VBoxManage modifyvm "$thevm" --cpuidset 00000001 00000f43 00020800 fbffffff ffffffff
VBoxManage modifyvm "$thevm" --cpuidset 80000001 00000000 00000000 ffffffff ffffffff
VBoxManage setextradata "$thevm" VBoxInternal/Devices/efi/0/Config/DmiBIOSVersion EFI32..Virtual.Box
VBoxManage setextradata "$thevm" VBoxInternal/Devices/efi/0/Config/DmiUseHostInfo 0
VBoxManage setextradata "$thevm" VBoxInternal/Devices/smc/0/Config/GetKeyFromRealSMC 1
VBoxManage setextradata "$thevm" VBoxInternal2/EfiGraphicsResolution 1920x1200
 

startergo

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Create or fix the ServerVersion.plist file so that VirtualBox thinks you're running the server version
I used this patch in the past to run SL on parallels, but the newest parallels detects the patch and just complains it is not a server version.
Change some settings in the VM:
Do you think these will work for SL too?
 

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Create or fix the ServerVersion.plist file so that VirtualBox thinks you're running the server version.
Last time I ran client OS X in VirtualBox, it didn’t care about it not being Server. Has that changed?
 

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Has that changed?
Yes. I think all Virtual managers now comply with Apple restrictions even Virtual Box. And it looks like it is actively reinforced as is the case with parallels. I simply can't run SL now on any virtualizer. The second reason is the CPU being too new. Parallels will run SL-server, but I read supports for it expires in the next release.
 

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The attached should let you run non-Server Tiger, Leopard, and Snow Leopard in VMWare Fusion. I'm sorry, I legitimately don't remember where I got this, but it works great.
 

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joevt

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I used this patch in the past to run SL on parallels, but the newest parallels detects the patch and just complains it is not a server version.
Are you referring to 19.3? I'm using Parallels 19.2.1. I haven't upgrade to 19.3 yet which is only a month old.

Do you think these will work for SL too?
Since Leopard and later still work for me in Parallels, I haven't tried them in Virtual Box.

Last time I ran client OS X in VirtualBox, it didn’t care about it not being Server. Has that changed?
I don't recall. I know Parallels cares.
 

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Code:
cpuid.inhibitDarwinMasks = "TRUE"
monitor_control.enable_fullcpuid = "TRUE"
cpuid.0.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1010"
cpuid.0.ebx = "0111:0101:0110:1110:0110:0101:0100:0111"
cpuid.0.ecx = "0110:1100:0110:0101:0111:0100:0110:1110"
cpuid.0.edx = "0100:1001:0110:0101:0110:1110:0110:1001"
cpuid.1.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0110:1111:0110"
cpuid.1.ebx = "0000:0001:0000:0010:0000:1000:0000:0000"
cpuid.1.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:1110:0011:1011:1101"
cpuid.1.edx = "1011:1111:1110:1011:1111:1011:1111:1111"
cpuid.2.eax = "0000:0101:1011:0000:1011:0001:0000:0001"
cpuid.2.ebx = "0000:0000:0101:0110:0101:0111:1111:0000"
cpuid.2.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.2.edx = "0010:1100:1011:0100:0011:0000:0100:1001"
cpuid.3.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.3.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.0.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0000:0001:0010:0001"
cpuid.4.0.ebx = "0000:0001:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.0.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.0.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.1.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0000:0001:0010:0010"
cpuid.4.1.ebx = "0000:0001:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.1.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.1.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.2.eax = "0000:0100:0000:0000:0100:0001:0100:0011"
cpuid.4.2.ebx = "0000:0011:1100:0000:0000:0000:0011:1111"
cpuid.4.2.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1111:1111:1111"
cpuid.4.2.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.4.3.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.4.3.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.5.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.5.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.5.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0011"
cpuid.5.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0010:0010:0010:0010:0000"
cpuid.6.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.6.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0010"
cpuid.6.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.6.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.7.0.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0100:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.8.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.9.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.eax = "0000:0111:0010:1000:0000:0010:0000:0010"
cpuid.a.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.a.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.eax = "1000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:1000"
cpuid.80000000.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000000.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000001.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001"
cpuid.80000001.edx = "0010:0000:0001:0000:0000:1000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000002.eax = "0110:0101:0111:0100:0110:1110:0100:1001"
cpuid.80000002.ebx = "0010:1001:0101:0010:0010:1000:0110:1100"
cpuid.80000002.ecx = "0111:0010:0110:1111:0100:0011:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000002.edx = "0100:1101:0101:0100:0010:1000:0110:0101"
cpuid.80000003.eax = "0100:0011:0010:0000:0011:0010:0010:1001"
cpuid.80000003.ebx = "0010:0000:0010:0000:0101:0101:0101:0000"
cpuid.80000003.ecx = "0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000003.edx = "0101:0100:0010:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000004.eax = "0011:0000:0011:0000:0011:0110:0011:0111"
cpuid.80000004.ebx = "0010:0000:0100:0000:0010:0000:0010:0000"
cpuid.80000004.ecx = "0011:0011:0011:0011:0010:1110:0011:0010"
cpuid.80000004.edx = "0000:0000:0111:1010:0100:1000:0100:0111"
cpuid.80000005.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000005.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000006.ecx = "0001:0000:0000:0000:1000:0000:0100:0000"
cpuid.80000006.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.eax = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.ebx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.ecx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
cpuid.80000007.edx = "0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000"
I can confirm that this code fixed my CPU panic on VMware 17.5 with 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H, running SL-server. I have installed it originally in Parallels and converted the disk to vmdk for usage in VMware. I used this guide:

Downloading a Fresh Copy of macOS​

The first step in setting up a virtual machine is getting an image that is compatible with our virtualization software, in this case, VMWare. To do this, we will use OpenCore. The following instructions are a shortened form of the full OpenCore Install Guide:

https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Install-Guide/installer-guide/windows-install.html

Note: This method is preferred over downloading an existing ISO from the internet because you never know when the integrity of an ISO from the internet might be compromised.

Pre-requisites​

Instructions​


  1. Download the latest release of OpenCore.

  2. Extract the OpenCore ZIP file, and open the extracted folder.

  3. Navigate into Utilities\macrecovery.

  4. Holding Shift on your keyboard, right-click your explorer window and select Open PowerShell window here.

  5. Run the python command corresponding to the macOS version you want to download, found in the OpenCore Install Guide.
    macOS Ventura
    If you'd like to download macOS Ventura, use the command below:
    This is not recommended for inexperienced users!

    Copypython ./macrecovery.py -b Mac-27AD2F918AE68F61 -m 00000000000000000 download

  6. Next, cut/copy the BaseSystem.dmg file (generated in the macrecovery folder), to your user profile's Documents folder

Converting the macOS System Image to a VMWare Disk​

Now that you have the BaseSystem.dmg file, we will now need to convert it into a format that VMWare can understand and load. In order to do that, we need to use yet another open-source tool called QEMU. Follow the steps below to learn how to use it.

Installing QEMU​

This is a short guide to show you how to install QEMU, an open-source tool for working with disk images.


  1. Download QEMU for Windows.

    • Download Link: https://qemu.weilnetz.de/w64/

    • You will see a bunch of folders with years on them. Ignore those. Download the qemu-w64-setup-XXXXXXXX.exe installer.

  2. Run the installer once the download completes.

    • If you get a Windows SmartScreen alert, allow the installer to Run Anyways.

    • If you get an error during installation saying a file cannot be written, just click the Retry button in the prompt.

    • The installer will install files to C:\Program Files\qemu

  3. (Optional). You may want to add the C:\Program Files\qemu path to your Windows System Environment Variables

    • This is optional because I will be using the full path to qemu-img in the rest of the guide.

    • If you are non-technical or a beginner, I would skip this step.

Creating the VMDK​

Now that we've installed QEMU, we need to use it to convert the BaseSystem.dmg to a VMWare .vmdk disk image.


  1. Open Explorer and navigate into your Documents folder (where your BaseSystem.dmg is located).

  2. Holding Shift on your keyboard, right-click your explorer window and select Open PowerShell window here.

  3. Run the following command to use QEMU to convert the image to a .vmdk.

  4. You will now have a recovery.vmdk file in your Documents folder that you can use with VMWare.

Preparing & Unlocking VMWare​

In order for you to even be able to load a macOS system into VMWare, you will need to use a third-party program called Auto-Unlocker to patch your VMWare installation.

Pre-requisites​

Instructions (VMWare 16)​


  1. Download Auto-Unlocker.

  2. Extract the downloaded zip file.

  3. Run the Unlocker.exe file.

    • This will bring up a GUI to patch your VMWare installation

    • The app will attempt to auto-fill the install locations. However, if they are empty, please locate and select your VMWare installation folder.

  4. Click the Patch button

  5. Once the patching is complete, you may close the Unlocker app.

Instructions (VMWare 15 or Older)​


  1. Download Unlocker.

  2. Extract the downloaded zip file.

  3. Run the win-install.cmd file as an Administrator

Setting up the Virtual Machine​

Creating the Virtual Machine​

This section will detail how to create the base virtual machine using the recovery disk we created earlier.

Pre-requisites

Instructions


  1. Open VMWare and click File -> New Virtual Machine

  2. Select Custom Installation and start navigating through the New Virtual Machine setup screens.

  3. On the Guest Operating System Installation page, select, I will install the operating system later.

  4. On the Select a Guest Operating System page, select Apple Mac OS X, as well as the corresponding macOS version.

  5. On the Processor Configuration page, select 1 for the Number of processors.

    • For the Number of cores per processor, select a number that is within your computer's resource constraints.

  6. On the Memory for the Virtual Machine page, we recommend the following:

    • Minimum: 4096 MB

    • Recommended: 8096 MB

  7. On the Network Type page, select Use network address translation (NAT).

  8. On the Select a Disk page, select Use an existing virtual disk.

  9. On the Select an Existing Disk page, browse & select the recovery.vmdk disk we created earlier.

  10. Finish the setup.

  11. Edit your Virtual Machine's settings.

  12. Add a new piece of hardware.

    • On the Hardware Type page, select Hard Disk.

    • On the Disk Type page, select SATA.

    • On the Select a Disk page, select Create a new virtual disk

    • On the Specify Disk Capacity page, enter an amount that makes sense

      • Minimum: 50 GB

      • Recommended: 80 GB

    • Complete the Hard Disk setup.
to install any operating system then added my existing SL-server virtual disk and removed the other virtual disk.
 
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  • The cursor occasionally skips a beat - nothing unbearable, but it is not quite as fluid as expected - try adjusting the tracking speed settings in System Preferences - same goes for scrolling speed, which I slowed right down.
TSC sync issue? (or, as it's known internally at Intel & Micro-Soft, "CPU drift")
This was a problem on every OS when the 64-bit Intel chips came around, they had (and many still have) flawed clock cycle timing that causes instabilities and lag when using multiple cores, if the OS is not programmed to work around it. It was something people noticed with hackintosh & OSX VM's at the time as well, so it would make sense that this could be a cause of it.
The fix was to either limit the system to one core (mac cpus=1 boot argument), or use a custom modified kernel such as Voodoo-based XNU which implements a TSC sync fix.
 
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