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Can you check if the mac is alive when its in dark mode ?

Does the Caps Lock LED get lit ?

Can you urge the mac to make sounds ?

Does a USB item indicates voltage (ram stick, optical mouse, etc ?)

I second the faulty gpu

Plus I would check the monitor & cable, borrow one or go to someone with known good hardware and plug your Monitor & cable in
Yes the caps lock works ,I’m unable to get it to make any sounds since I can’t see what I’m doing im certain that it is booting up though,do you have any ideas on how to make a noise ?

The reason I don’t think it’s the gpu is because i bought a replacement listed as working so the chances of me buying a gpu with the exact same problem is pretty narrow ,but maybe it’s the gpu power feed ? Since that’s the original.

I’ve ordered a dvd-d to hdmi adapter to rule out the monitor ,I don’t know anyone with a dvi-d port
 
Yes the caps lock works ,I’m unable to get it to make any sounds since I can’t see what I’m doing im certain that it is booting up though,do you have any ideas on how to make a noise ?

The reason I don’t think it’s the gpu is because i bought a replacement listed as working so the chances of me buying a gpu with the exact same problem is pretty narrow ,but maybe it’s the gpu power feed ? Since that’s the original.

I’ve ordered a dvd-d to hdmi adapter to rule out the monitor ,I don’t know anyone with a dvi-d port

Press the volume up down keys if you configured to make sounds when volume changes

If you are a heavily keyboard user like me you can open your music / video folder with the keyboard

I put meanings in ()

Cmd n (new window)
(If youre in home)
M(usic)
Cmd-o (open)

Or videos or alike, you got the idea, when youre in your folder
T(une.mp3)
And the space bar to play

Hard to figure but an idea

Sad you can not get in remotely
 
Press the volume up down keys if you configured to make sounds when volume changes

If you are a heavily keyboard user like me you can open your music / video folder with the keyboard

I put meanings in ()

Cmd n (new window)
(If youre in home)
M(usic)
Cmd-o (open)

Or videos or alike, you got the idea, when youre in your folder
T(une.mp3)
And the space bar to play

Hard to figure but an idea

Sad you can not get in remotely
Couldn’t figure it out on Mac but I booted into Windows XP and got the startup sound which for me confirms its booting up fine.
 
I think you could be right ,hopefully my hdmi adapter arrives soon.

Just an FYI - there CAN be some resolution issues with adapters depending on the monitor itself and how it handles signals from computers. Would NOT say that low resolution while being connected to an HDMI monitor (TV) is an indication of an issue. Some need a scanconverter style box to "fix" this.
 
if it's displaying the boot display and going in to windoz XP then the display/GPU is working, as it's actually booting then sounds like the PSU is ok
is all ram showing in windows ?

(if you have a second display or TV to check it with it's worth a go.)

so something is wrong with osx, the install or drives id gess.
i assume as you can see boot display with both GPU's? then there both working with osx
are they both mac versions of the GPU?

when you tried to boot from the install CD what happened?

if possible id try booting from a fresh install to see if it's the drives (or by target disc mode at a push)
i try to keep a usb stick with a fresh install of OSX on for troubleshooting, if you can install a copy of osx on a usb stick (or any kind of external drive, i use a old SD card in a SD to USB dongle to boot from)
also i cant remember what version of osx that GPU works with so check your boot CD is not to old for the GPU (might be worth if you can booting from a copy of osx10.8/9)

also worth doing a safe restart https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201262
 
o i assumed "I booted into Windows XP" was actually getting in to the OS not just 'i tried to boot win XP and got no display", well it's a pickle

if your not even able to boot from a fresh drive (say osx install on a usb stick) it sounds bad
 
Just an update ,got my hdmi adapter and it works ,so the issue was the monitor all along ,problem solved ! Thanks for the help guys.
 
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Does it work booting in safe mode? (hold shift on boot)
Hello, I joined this forum as I wanted to say a big thank you to you Casperes1996 for saving the day, this afternoon, when I was desperately trying to boot my Mac Pro 1.1 which for the first time was unable to do it. I had not saved quite a bit of work on Logic Pro 9 and I was desperate to say the least.....I was going mad as a lot of other advise was not doing the trick. The loading circle would start, but it would get stuck and stay there, without getting to reboot.....oh man! After some hours and a lot of quick reading, I read your advise, which was simple enough for someone like myself, who is experienced in logic and music, as long as the computers work. When they don’t, I realise that I have very poor knowledge to solve technical problems.....I pressed the shift Key, which I had to google to find out....!!! and switched on my Mac Pro for the 30th time ??!!! and it booted!!! And was able to save the day, although I had spent time I did not have....I managed to save the work. Now, I don’t know what I have done, really, I don’t know what safe mode is and all that. Everything seems to be alright, apart from the Rme Fireface 800 totalMix logo which is in the Dock. It looks different, it is an rme logo but not the one I had before.....
During the course of the day, I spoke to a local Mac technician, who said that either the hard drive is gone or the os needs to be reinstalled.
Now, what should I do? What state is my Mac Pro in? Does it mean I have to do something as this has only temporarily fixed it? Any advice would be very much appreciated!

Many thanks again Casperes1996!

Kindest Regards,
Box
 
Hello, I joined this forum as I wanted to say a big thank you to you Casperes1996 for saving the day, this afternoon, when I was desperately trying to boot my Mac Pro 1.1 which for the first time was unable to do it. I had not saved quite a bit of work on Logic Pro 9 and I was desperate to say the least.....I was going mad as a lot of other advise was not doing the trick. The loading circle would start, but it would get stuck and stay there, without getting to reboot.....oh man! After some hours and a lot of quick reading, I read your advise, which was simple enough for someone like myself, who is experienced in logic and music, as long as the computers work. When they don’t, I realise that I have very poor knowledge to solve technical problems.....I pressed the shift Key, which I had to google to find out....!!! and switched on my Mac Pro for the 30th time ??!!! and it booted!!! And was able to save the day, although I had spent time I did not have....I managed to save the work. Now, I don’t know what I have done, really, I don’t know what safe mode is and all that. Everything seems to be alright, apart from the Rme Fireface 800 totalMix logo which is in the Dock. It looks different, it is an rme logo but not the one I had before.....

Well, I'm happy you had your problem solved and didn't lose your work. In addition, remember that important work should probably have one or more backups. If your hard drive dies, having it stored on the hard drive doesn't help much either.
That out of the way, again, happy you had your issue solved.

No clue about the RME logo. I'd assume it's unrelated. Not even sure why an interface would need an app in the dock in the first place actually.

During the course of the day, I spoke to a local Mac technician, who said that either the hard drive is gone or the os needs to be reinstalled.

Whilst I'm not going to doubt the technician's skills and/or knowledge, I will say that that is a pretty swooping statement to make without knowing more. Not necessarily wrong, but not necessarily right either. - But if it's a Mac Pro 1.1 and you've never changed the hard drive, it's probably not in good shape after that many rotations.

Now, what should I do? What state is my Mac Pro in? Does it mean I have to do something as this has only temporarily fixed it? Any advice would be very much appreciated!

Well, hard to say with what I know right now. Booting in safe mode is never a solution to anything either by the way. Booting into safe mode is diagnostics; Trying to identify an issue. Safe mode is designed to start the computer without loading many kernel extensions and programs that otherwise start up with the computer, so some components may not work when running in safe mode. It is intended as a way of getting into a system that has faulty kernel extensions preventing boot so you can disable or remove them.
Can you reboot without doing safe mode now or does that fail? If you can, it might not even have been safe mode that got you in, but just luck. Or whatever had gone wrong may have been in a corrupted state, but that state has now been set to something new and thus the issue is gone. I don't know.
Or it could be the failing hard drive like your tech suggested.

My advice is to backup everything essential in case we are looking at faulty hard drive or other hardware, and keep using the system normally for a while to see if it acts up again. If it does, you can pm me and we can go from there. Or you can start a new thread on here and mention me so I am sure to see it. We could continue here, but that feels a bit like cluttering the thread.

Hope this helps
 
Well, I'm happy you had your problem solved and didn't lose your work. In addition, remember that important work should probably have one or more backups. If your hard drive dies, having it stored on the hard drive doesn't help much either.
That out of the way, again, happy you had your issue solved.

No clue about the RME logo. I'd assume it's unrelated. Not even sure why an interface would need an app in the dock in the first place actually.



Whilst I'm not going to doubt the technician's skills and/or knowledge, I will say that that is a pretty swooping statement to make without knowing more. Not necessarily wrong, but not necessarily right either. - But if it's a Mac Pro 1.1 and you've never changed the hard drive, it's probably not in good shape after that many rotations.



Well, hard to say with what I know right now. Booting in safe mode is never a solution to anything either by the way. Booting into safe mode is diagnostics; Trying to identify an issue. Safe mode is designed to start the computer without loading many kernel extensions and programs that otherwise start up with the computer, so some components may not work when running in safe mode. It is intended as a way of getting into a system that has faulty kernel extensions preventing boot so you can disable or remove them.
Can you reboot without doing safe mode now or does that fail? If you can, it might not even have been safe mode that got you in, but just luck. Or whatever had gone wrong may have been in a corrupted state, but that state has now been set to something new and thus the issue is gone. I don't know.
Or it could be the failing hard drive like your tech suggested.

My advice is to backup everything essential in case we are looking at faulty hard drive or other hardware, and keep using the system normally for a while to see if it acts up again. If it does, you can pm me and we can go from there. Or you can start a new thread on here and mention me so I am sure to see it. We could continue here, but that feels a bit like cluttering the thread.

Hope this helps
Sorry for the late reply, I was away with work. Thank you very much for helping! After it booted on safe mode, a few hours later, it showed to be in normal mode. The only thing I could not do, is Restart. Everything else worked as normal again. Now, I have returned home, it’s stuck again.....despite pressing shift and start....Maybe it’s the main hard drive failing and that’s where the operating system is and Logic etc. What shall I do? Shall I take it to Apple? Or is it easy to buy a new hard drive and reinstall everything? I have never done something like this before...also where does one find the operating system to download?
I have saved everything to hard drives, so at least I am not crying!
Any help would be very much appreciated! Thank you!
 
Sorry for the late reply, I was away with work. Thank you very much for helping! After it booted on safe mode, a few hours later, it showed to be in normal mode. The only thing I could not do, is Restart. Everything else worked as normal again. Now, I have returned home, it’s stuck again.....despite pressing shift and start....Maybe it’s the main hard drive failing and that’s where the operating system is and Logic etc. What shall I do? Shall I take it to Apple? Or is it easy to buy a new hard drive and reinstall everything? I have never done something like this before...also where does one find the operating system to download?
I have saved everything to hard drives, so at least I am not crying!
Any help would be very much appreciated! Thank you!

I don't think Apple would service a 1.1 anymore. They've been on the list of vintage models for a long time.
I can't promise you it's a hard drive issue btw, but yes, changing a hard drive is very simple. - You might want an SSD instead if you're doing it for better speed.
You can find nice videos on YouTube, but it's really very simple, especially on the Mac Pro actually.
I don't actually know if it works on something as old as a 1.1; Maybe if it's had one of the newer Ones on it, but typically on Macs you can boot holding cmd+alt+r to enter Internet Recovery and redownload/install the OS like that. - Otherwise you can get it from the Mac App Store on another Mac or DosDude's patcher tool. Apple has support pages with Mac App Store links to older versions. They're hidden on the normal App Store. You can just Google it. But it can sometimes be a bit finicky downloading an older version on a Mac running a newer system, so it may be easier to download the installer through DosDude's tool.
 
I don't think Apple would service a 1.1 anymore. They've been on the list of vintage models for a long time.
I can't promise you it's a hard drive issue btw, but yes, changing a hard drive is very simple. - You might want an SSD instead if you're doing it for better speed.
You can find nice videos on YouTube, but it's really very simple, especially on the Mac Pro actually.
I don't actually know if it works on something as old as a 1.1; Maybe if it's had one of the newer Ones on it, but typically on Macs you can boot holding cmd+alt+r to enter Internet Recovery and redownload/install the OS like that. - Otherwise you can get it from the Mac App Store on another Mac or DosDude's patcher tool. Apple has support pages with Mac App Store links to older versions. They're hidden on the normal App Store. You can just Google it. But it can sometimes be a bit finicky downloading an older version on a Mac running a newer system, so it may be easier to download the installer through DosDude's tool.
Hi, thank you again! Are your downloading/rebooting suggestions after I get a new hard drive installed or shall I hold cod+alt+r as I am right now?
 
Hi, thank you again! Are your downloading/rebooting suggestions after I get a new hard drive installed or shall I hold cod+alt+r as I am right now?

After. When you get there it'll ask what drive to install to and if you don't have the drive, there's no point. But you can try it out now to see if you can get to the screen
 
Ok, thank you. I also just found out that I can even install an ssd in my 1.1! The question that is eating me right now is, if I have a hard drive problem or something else, which will continue to trouble my Mac Pro after replacing my existing hard drive to a new one....Also, I have been wanting to upgrade my Logic software to Logic Pro X which needs a higher spec Mac Pro....or shall I take it to someone to have a look....the engineer I mentioned earlier, I don’t completely trust, as some years ago, he gave me a wrong or dishonest opinion about my monitor power supply, which I had thought it had died and advised me to buy a new one from him. I replied that I would think about it and took my power supply back home and after about 30 minutes, it was working again....these power supplies have something like a Auto anti Serge relief to protect them and they automatically work again after about 30 min....
Anyway, I will try the combination like you say, tomorrow after I get someone to watch what I am doing and I will let you know. Thank you very much!
 
Dear Casperes1996, I just realised that I do have 2 hard drives in the Mac Pro and one is completely empty and has a 3T capacity. Can I install the 10.6.8 os on that one? And then put it from Bay 3 to Bay 1, then hold cod+alt+r and press start on the computer, see if it takes me to the screen you were talking about? Thank you in advance.
 
Dear Casperes1996, I just realised that I do have 2 hard drives in the Mac Pro and one is completely empty and has a 3T capacity. Can I install the 10.6.8 os on that one? And then put it from Bay 3 to Bay 1, then hold cod+alt+r and press start on the computer, see if it takes me to the screen you were talking about? Thank you in advance.

Well if you have 10.6.8 to install on it you don’t need internet recovery.
You also don’t need to change the bay. If can boot from any drive, no matter which bay it’s situated in. So yeah, just install the OS on it
 
Oh! I don’t have the 10.6.8 os....I will need to do it through Internet. Where can I find it ? Do you know?
thank you!
 
I know, I was just checking at Apple, but no luck....I was thinking downloading onto a stick which is connected to my iPad Pro, then take the stick and put it on my Mac Pro ...
 
Maybe , I can take my hard drive to the local Apple repair and they can put it on...he is down the road from me.
 
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