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Mac Pro 2008-2009 out?
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Balls, looks like another summer spent figuring this out. At least my Mac mini is supported.... What
Looks like I'm done buying the flag ship models. dont get me wrong 8 years is good for a computer but when a company says "better memory usage, better cpu usage..." For a new os shouldn't that mean compatibility? Ehh I guess my spontaneous Mac mini purchases paid off
Cutting out the 2008 and 2009 MacPro's which are highly upgradable it just stupid. I am sure we can modify the Installer distribution file to allow it to be installed on "unsupported" machines just like installing 10.8+ on the MacPro1,1 and 2,1.
I think this stinks (softest word I can think of). I recall reading somewhere, perhaps when I worked as a senior escalation point at AppleCare, that Apple supports all of its machines for at least 7 years. That means they are only supporting my 2009 Mac Pro for 6 years. I'm not looking forward to utilizing 3rd party software to make my machine run the latest OS (some will come along, count on it). I doubt that there are enough older Mac Pro owners out there to make a petition drive worthwhile (as if Apple would actually pay attention). I hate having to buy a new machine or go through a major hardware upgrade just to stay semi-current with the OS.
Since everything about the 2009 MacPro is 64bit I don't think you will need any 3rd party software.
Apple doesn't care. Apple is in the planned obsolescence business. Should be illegal.
Oh I get that, which is why I built a hackintosh when my 2006 Mac Pro finally died.
I built one too, last year. Don't know why I took so long to build one. The Apple options are garbage and especially at the prices Apple's trying to rip people off with.
Is it any good? I have been thinking of that option for a long time, given that no Apple hardware currently appeals to me in any way. However, if it involves constant tweaking and risk-taking, then I might just be switching to Linux completely.
If you follow the MANY guides online it can be pretty painless. I had been using boot loaders for years with my MacPro1,1 so it really was a no brainer. Sites like tonymacx86.com have great support (I am a moderator there) and even have buying guides to help you choose hardware which has been tested by users and the tonymac staff. The only pain with my current hackintosh is that you have to wait for Nvidia to release drivers before updating OS X but that is not specific to hackintoshes but anything running a Maxwell based GPU or other unsupported Nvidia GPU.
My Hackintosh scores around 19K on geek bench 3 and cost about $1500, Apple doesn't offer anything close to that.
2009 flashed to 5,1 is in. At least people who did this confirmed it.
I've got an 2008 MacPro as well, and it'll be about 8.5 years old when Sierra drops. I have no complaints. I'm guessing that most of the continuity features, shared clipboard, Apple Watch communications and everything else require a more modern bluetooth than shipped with the 2008 models.
Yes, we can upgrade that component (although I've had mixed success with that) and yes, there are other features of Sierra that may still work, but in aggregate Apple probably looked at the number of users willing to upgrade hardware to support these new features and compared it against the number of complaints they'd get that the features didn't work on their supported hardware, and decided to cut them off.
As an aside, I don't know how many people keep "share diagnostics and usage information with Apple" turned on-- I don't. If most people are turning that off, then Apple is largely blind as to what hardware is in use.
Yes, we can upgrade that component (although I've had mixed success with that) and yes, there are other features of Sierra that may still work, but in aggregate Apple probably looked at the number of users willing to upgrade hardware to support these new features and compared it against the number of complaints they'd get that the features didn't work on their supported hardware, and decided to cut them off.
As an aside, I don't know how many people keep "share diagnostics and usage information with Apple" turned on-- I don't. If most people are turning that off, then Apple is largely blind as to what hardware is in use.
I was already suspecting that as a temporary fix.
[doublepost=1465880328][/doublepost]But I won't feel right till I get the next processor and faster RAM.
I can't help but notice how Hackintoshes seem to have become a lot more popular in recent years - you'd think Apple might react by offering better desktop hardware.
I switched to a Hackintosh a while back after my 2009 iMac was getting a bit long in the tooth and haven't looked back since - it's insane the performance I got for the money.
I switched to a Hackintosh a while back after my 2009 iMac was getting a bit long in the tooth and haven't looked back since - it's insane the performance I got for the money.
That seems to be the case in general with grey areas in copyright. Jailbreaking to get all the tweaks that Apple doesn't want to offer, Hackintosh to get the exact hardware you want for a reasonable price, filesharing to get software DRM-free instead of being restricted to Apple's App Store DRM.
I always considered a Hackintosh to be undesirable, because it would always depend on being able to hack the system. Apple clearly does not want non-Apple hardware to run it, so you would be constantly fighting against the system.
I have a mid-2007 iMac and a Hackintosh install on my gaming desktop. I don't like using the Hackintosh because I have to create a bootable image, say a prayer and cross my fingers every time I do an update. Plus OS X doesn't play nice with the Intel SRT setup I have on the gaming desktop, and it wants to initialize my Linux HD every time it boots...
I used to have big issues with kernel panics, or sometimes stuff just not working after updates. I haven't messed with it much in the past couple of years, so maybe things have changed.
To be honest, I genuinely suspect at this point that Apple are turning a blind eye as such to hackintoshes. Essentially they aren't interested in trying to compete with the type of hardware people could build anyway and would rather invest their effort in building machines that they can put a healthy margin on.
I think it's worth mentioning that I have paid for the software I'm running on my Hackintosh. Just because I violate the EULA doesn't mean I don't think people shouldn't get paid. Granted I have cracked software that I've owned legally before just because the DRM was too intrusive.
I doubt that your Macs are energy efficient.
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How can you describe a firmware upgrade as a temporary fix?