Mac Pro 2008-2009 out?

[Mr. Retrofire]

What does that have to do with anything?

Your Macs are old, big and waste energy.

 

[PhilBowden]

I was hoping to perhaps just apply the firmware update without upgrading the processor and RAM, thus fooling the system into thinking it's a newer machine until I can either afford the hardware upgrades or get a newer machine. I'll probably not try it though because somebody always finds a way to make these older machines run the newer OSs and, as mentioned by somebody else, my machine is fully 64-bit so it shouldn't be hard to make it run Sierra.
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Your Macs are old, big and waste energy.

Perhaps, but our Macs can packed full of hard drives and expansion cards.

 

[VictoryHighway]

Your Macs are old, big and waste energy.

Do I care?

 

[h9826790]

I was hoping to perhaps just apply the firmware update without upgrading the processor and RAM, thus fooling the system into thinking it's a newer machine until I can either afford the hardware upgrades or get a newer machine. I'll probably not try it though because somebody always finds a way to make these older machines run the newer OSs and, as mentioned by somebody else, my machine is fully 64-bit so it shouldn't be hard to make it run Sierra.
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Perhaps, but our Macs can packed full of hard drives and expansion cards.

AFAIK, there is only one down side so far after flashing to 5,1. Which is the boot manager may not work with the Tempo SSD SATA 3 card (only with a bootable SSD on the card, otherwise, it's fine). Apart from that, the 5,1 firmware is perfectly fine with the 4,1 hardware without any upgrade, and will enable the ability of HDMI audio on the 4,1 (with proper 3rd party driver installed).

If you want to run 10.12 on your 4,1. IMO, it's better do the flash, and then everything can work in the native way.

If you are looking for a work around to install the OS, why not just take the work around which makes you can install the OS natively?

 

[tigerintank]

Do I care?

I'd give you 0 out of 10 for caring

 

[0248294]

Your Macs are old, big and waste energy.

If you have nothing to add to the conversation, don't reply. Getting real tired of these people going into threads discussing old hardware telling everyone to get new hardware. Get this: We don't care, now shuttity up up up and go lick your trashcan computer or something.


I kid, I kid, we should all listen to Apple and change our 5 year+ old computers for iPad Pros

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

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If you have nothing to add to the conversation, don't reply.

Ditto.

...go lick your trashcan computer or something.

I do this everyday.

 

[Glassed Silver]

That seems to be the case in general with grey areas in copyright. Jailbreaking to get all the tweaks that Apple doesn't want to offer, Hackintosh to get the exact hardware you want for a reasonable price, filesharing to get software DRM-free instead of being restricted to Apple's App Store DRM.

I always considered a Hackintosh to be undesirable, because it would always depend on being able to hack the system. Apple clearly does not want non-Apple hardware to run it, so you would be constantly fighting against the system.

Apple doesn't care about your hackingtosh, if they did they could throw much bigger rocks your way.

What they do care about is one more computer being connected to their Mac App Store, one more possible sucker for their iOS devices if you get to like the OS X experience (if you don't already own an iOS device), one more person who likes the OS but eventually gets tired of being on "less beautiful" hardware and may someday decide to drop the cash not only for apps, but also the hardware they sell.

They have nothing to gain by putting on a fight.
They fought the one company that tried to sell pre-made hackingtoshes, other than that: if you don't make money off it, Apple doesn't give a crap.

Glassed Silver:mac

 

[bladerunner2000]

Is it any good? I have been thinking of that option for a long time, given that no Apple hardware currently appeals to me in any way. However, if it involves constant tweaking and risk-taking, then I might just be switching to Linux completely.

It's the best desktop I've ever owned. The parts I picked made it super quiet too, almost completely inaudible at idle and not a whole lot of noise at full load. I made a pretty thorough summary of my experience here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-hackintosh-thread.1900326/#post-21586131

 

[oldmacs]

Your Macs are old, big and waste energy.

What does that matter? Plenty of the unsupported iMacs, Mac Minis, Macbook Pros are fine. The majority of energy wastage for a computer is in the production stage not the usage stage, so if you're trying to tell people to buy new machines to me more energy efficient, then you're wrong.

 

[h9826790]

What does that matter? Plenty of the unsupported iMacs, Mac Minis, Macbook Pros are fine. The majority of energy wastage for a computer is in the production stage not the usage stage, so if you're trying to tell people to buy new machines to me more energy efficient, then you're wrong.

May be for him, anything larger than this is big and wasting energy.

 

[pat500000]

If you have nothing to add to the conversation, don't reply. Getting real tired of these people going into threads discussing old hardware telling everyone to get new hardware. Get this: We don't care, now shuttity up up up and go lick your trashcan computer or something.


I kid, I kid, we should all listen to Apple and change our 5 year+ old computers for iPad Pros

Maybe some people should care... If it's gonna affect anyway then yes..gotta do something about it. If you're just browsing website or doing stuff that doesn't require update then yeah they should stay in older OS X. But of course each person should do they what they think is best for themselves.

 

[duervo]

At first, I hoped that the list of supported systems was due to some sort of hardware limitation, like a newer version of Bluetooth being required or something. I looked, and that wasn't it.

Then, I checked out this:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624

So, it seems as though Apple has created a new policy (or started to enforce an existing one) of actively discontinuing support for systems that are classified as "vintage" or "obsolete".

 

[leman]

So, it seems as though Apple has created a new policy (or started to enforce an existing one) of actively discontinuing support for systems that are classified as "vintage" or "obsolete".

Did you expect for them to keep parts to outdated products infinitely? 6 years of active software and hardware support is more than reasonable in the world of computers.

 

[duervo]

Did you expect for them to keep parts to outdated products infinitely? 6 years of active software and hardware support is more than reasonable in the world of computers.

Uhhhh, nooooo :/

So negative and confrontational. Next time, I would suggest considering that I was simply offering an explanation to the many, many people that have been complaining about this on these forums, of which I have not been one.

You can remove your foot from your mouth now

 

[leman]

Uhhhh, nooooo :/

So negative and confrontational. Next time, I would suggest considering that I was simply offering an explanation to the many, many people that have been complaining about this on these forums, of which I have not been one.

You can remove your foot from your mouth now

Sorry, I understood your post as complaining about Apple's supposed 'planned obsolescence'

 

[LarrikinAus]

Just in case you missed it, MacPro 3,1 running Sierra https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-3-1-running-sierra.1977679/

 

[theBigD23]

Do you guys even like Apple? Lol

Gets upgrades for 8 years, the most recent ones for $30 and free, still complains. Wow.

 

[0248294]

Do you guys even like Apple? Lol

Gets upgrades for 8 years, the most recent ones for $30 and free, still complains. Wow.

Useless post is useless.