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pertusis1

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Deegs

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I have a similar setup to the original post setup: Dual DVI 30" Cinema > Dual DVI to Mini Displayport adaptor (original Apple) to a USB C to Mini Displayport (female) adaptor into the Mac Pro 2019. But the result I'm getting is strange.

When booting, the screen shows the apple logo large and then resized, which I expeected. Then the screen stays black but shows the prompt for me to enter my password to get into the computer along with appropriate account image that was chosen. Once the password is accepted, the screen goes black.

If I change the cable to a different USB-C port, the screen appears normal with windows and the cursor/pointer moving as it follows the trackpad gestures. Then after 10 seconds it goes dark again.

When I have another monitor plugged in, on that monitor, I can go to About this Mac and see that it is recognized as the Apple Cinema Display 30". But it stays black. Display Preferences looks as if the monitor was working.

Any thoughts? I have this as my GPU AMD Radeon Pro W5700X

I have the Dual Link DVI adaptor USB A plug for power plugged into the Mac Pro as well.

Using this chain with my MacBook Pro 15,1 (2018 I think) works just fine. Mirroring or not - works consistently - though it's main purpose is to be a 2nd monitor for the Mac Pro.

Has anyone else had this issue about working fine briefly and then going dark? Or ideas how to solve this?

Thanks!
 

Dayo

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No shame in just replacing it. I bought a spare a few years ago, but now one of my kids has taken it over.
Would potentially consider a replacement if local.

Got an unbeatable deal on an Eizo C277. Much more capable if more of a Brutalist design ethos.

ACD packed up for now until I figure out what to do with it. Kept the packaging for 12 years!
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joevt

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Would potentially consider a replacement if local.

Got an unbeatable deal on an Eizo C277. Much more capable if more of a Brutalist design ethos.

ACD packed up for now until I figure out what to do with it. Kept the packaging for 12 years!
My Apple 30" Cinema Display and Power Mac G5 Quad boxes hide the wires and sub woofer behind my desk, and keep my desk square since I removed the back of it for easier access to the wires.
 
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Average Pro

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You are so lucky for keeping the box. Someone threw mine away (30") because they thought it was empty and no longer required. I checked both my 2011 Mac Pro and 30" Cinema Display as luggage for a 5 day event. I didn't want people to see what they were so I spray painted them a flat color. Incredibly they both made two cross country trips with more than one stop. When I returned home, I removed the styrofoam and fixed any cracks with good old duct tape. The only thing I did in preparation was remove the HDDs.
 

sugarfish

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Thanks so much for this, Tevion 5. My situation is practically identical. I'm still using my ancient 30" Cinema Display and matching 20". I've got a refurb 2019 MBP arriving tomorrow, and a Stone Pro hub on the way. So you've saved me the effort of stumbling may way through to making it all work. Cheers!
 

pertusis1

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Would potentially consider a replacement if local.

Got an unbeatable deal on an Eizo C277. Much more capable if more of a Brutalist design ethos.

ACD packed up for now until I figure out what to do with it. Kept the packaging for 12 years!
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You might consider selling the power supply and cable. Those are still worth some money.
 

joevt

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You might consider selling the power supply and cable. Those are still worth some money.
I've bought power supplies on eBay. The ones for the Apple Cinema 23" Display seem to fail easily or are rare so I buy the power supply used for a 30" and use that wth the 23". My 30" Cinema Display's power supply has never failed but the 30" power supply I bought for the 23" can be used as a backup just in case since I don't use the 23" display much.
 

joevt

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I've tested both the Club 3D CAC-1510-A (HDCP OFF) and CAC-1510 (HDCP ON) with a Mac mini 2018 Thunderbolt port.

There's no way to tell the two apart (they have the same 1510 label on the cable) except that only the HDCP OFF version works with my Apple Cinema 30" Display. It gets the timings from the display (2560x1600). I can add the single link 1280x800 timing if it is missing and that works too. There are many scaled timings that also work (they use either the 2560x1600 or 1280x800 timing, depending on what is set as the "Scaled resolutions base" in SwitchResX).
 

Raven34

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I have the same monitor and a Mac Pro 7,1 and I've been pulling my hair out trying to get this to work. The official Apple Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter is no longer available from Apple so I've tried, painfully unsuccessfully, to try equivalent adapters from StarTech, to no avail.

My only hope is to try and find a Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter on eBay or something. I don't want to lose the usefulness of such a great monitor.

Time passes...

It looks like these can be found on eBay. Yay. I'm bidding now.

Crazy question: If this solution wasn't available, would it be possible to just pull the video card out of my 2008 Mac Pro and use it to drive the 30" Cinema Display from the Mac Pro 7,1?
You need a powered dock that has a mini display port. OWC aka MacSales has one that works. You may be able to plug the USB into USB and the mini Display into a TB 2- TB3 port. The MacPro 2013 used Thunderbolt 2 as a mini display port. I have two ACD 30" pugged in that way.
 

keith57

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Having barley justified the cost of my lovely new 7,1 Apple's new 6K display is out of the question. I've used my ageing but capable 30" Apple Cinema Display for a while now and it still suits me very well. For audio production I really appreciate all that 16:10 visual real estate and it's one of the few displays out there that really compliments the 7,1 aesthetically. Retina will be a nice upgrade later down the line, but I'm not a graphics or video editor who really needs it.

But to get an explicitly DL-DVI display to work required a bit of a dongle train. My 7,1 only includes x2 HDMI ports on the Radeon 580 and x4 DisplayPort outs via the TB3 ports. To get around this I got this neat little USB-C to MiniDisplayPort adapter on Amazon. Next in the chain had to be a MiniDisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI adapter. Thankfully I already owned the official Apple one for use with my 2011 13" MBP. So together it basically upgraded the Apple adapter to USB-C on one end. I was able to test this configuration successfully with a 2019 13" MBA before my Mac Pro arrived.

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Thankfully all went to to plan and the day my 7,1 arrived I was able to boot up with eerie silence using my big beautiful 30" ACD. It might be old but it still manages to look better than most displays on the market today if you ask me. A small touch, but I was pleasantly surprised to find the display is still fully recognised in Catalina as an authentic Apple Display with a link to the manual and all. Brilliant.

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I‘m thinking of retiring my MP 2010 5,1. I have the same display. Just curious what you did for storage? My MP 5,1 is stuffed with 4 big SATA drives. Did you end up using an external 4 bay enclosure? USB 3.1 or Thunderbolt?

Thanks
 

tevion5

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I‘m thinking of retiring my MP 2010 5,1. I have the same display. Just curious what you did for storage? My MP 5,1 is stuffed with 4 big SATA drives. Did you end up using an external 4 bay enclosure? USB 3.1 or Thunderbolt?

Thanks

I actually ended up getting a 2TB OWC Accelsior 4M2 card. Ultimately didn't want to compromise the insanely silent nature of the machine with spinning drives. Got a Radeon W5700X as well for the same reason. Would love a W6800X but even I have to tap out at those prices....
 

keith57

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Very interesting, thanks for the reply :). To make use of my existing drives I think I’ll try the OWC ThunderBay Flex 8 Thunderbolt 3 Enclosure with 8 drive Bays for now. But built in SSDs do sound like a good, but pricey, alternative.
 
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pertusis1

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Very interesting, thanks for the reply :). To make use of my existing drives I think I’ll try the OWC ThunderBay Flex 8 Thunderbolt 3 Enclosure with 8 drive Bays for now. But built in SSDs do sound like a good, but pricey, alternative.
What a fun thread to work through. I too am considering retiring my 5,1. It's a shame. I have had so much fun over the years souping up the 5,1, but I had some trouble upgrading to OpenCore, and I need my computer to work without hiccups.

The thing I most dreaded about upgrading was discarding the old 30" ACD. I have two of them (attached to a 4,1 and 5,1), and as others have pointed out, they remain beautiful. Not one missing pixel. Nothing burned it. Amazing!

At any rate, I'm off to shop for a new computer now that I know the ACD is still good to go.
 

EugW

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What a fun thread to work through. I too am considering retiring my 5,1. It's a shame. I have had so much fun over the years souping up the 5,1, but I had some trouble upgrading to OpenCore, and I need my computer to work without hiccups.

The thing I most dreaded about upgrading was discarding the old 30" ACD. I have two of them (attached to a 4,1 and 5,1), and as others have pointed out, they remain beautiful. Not one missing pixel. Nothing burned it. Amazing!

At any rate, I'm off to shop for a new computer now that I know the ACD is still good to go.
I use min 30" ACD with my 2014 Mac mini, and I hope to use it with a 2022 Mac mini too. Fortunately, my 30" supports HDCP, so I can get 1080p Netflix out of Safari with it. Not bad for such an old monitor.
 

keith57

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I use min 30" ACD with my 2014 Mac mini, and I hope to use it with a 2022 Mac mini too. Fortunately, my 30" supports HDCP, so I can get 1080p Netflix out of Safari with it. Not bad for such an old monitor.
Yep, I felt the same dread of dumping the 5,1. I went for the last iteration of Intel Mac Mini as a stopgap. It will run lots of old OSes under Parallels (Mac and PC) and the 30” ACD is great as well as a 2nd big screen for colour calibration (an Eizo Coloredge which will do 4K resolution).

If I’d had the desk space I might have been tempted to just keep the whole setup and get an M Mac to sit nearby, but it was not to be.

The OWC Thunderbay 8 is fantastic with 8 drives and a firewire card for connecting ancient kit. Means I’ve gone back in time to the way I used to use computers with a big external HD that will just move from system to system as things change.

The total setup is so small I can get an Mac M whatever/something to add to the system somehow when the need arises.

Though in reality I use my iPad Pros (I have 2!) most of the time… in the kitchen drinking coffee, I hardly ever have to sit in my ‘office area’. Being retired helps a lot. To sit in front of all the kit and do ‘real work’ has to be paid for really well or I’m not interested ?.

(I also have an old ½ hand laptop that was the last one to be able to run OS 9.1, so I can still access and edit old PageMaker files and other stuff if I need to, all remote controlled via ethernet so I don’t have to physical use it much directly or look at a small screen) (I should write a blog post on how to do this…. good old Apple still have downloads of 9.1 available on their servers for this very reason) I guess this Intel Mac Mini will sort of do the same thing over time. I still have some software (abandoned-ware) I don’t want to stop using that will never run on M powered Macs.

I‘ve ended up selling the bits from inside the old 5,1. I think I made more money on eBay that way. But I was selling to send them to a good home, not really for the cash, as I had my moneys worth from them over the 10 years or so I used it ?

Someone even wanted the Hard Drive carrier tray things !! I only have the Power Supply to pull out and sell as a spare part now. Had to check YouTube on how to remove it. Might even keep the empty box for some other purpose as I think it’s quite beautiful ?…

PS … my really nice sounding 20 year old Soundsticks lost the right channel a few days ago! Couldn’t be bothered to try and fix swollen capacitors right now, but may try later. Bought a new Subwoofer on eBay for next to nothing, being delivered by UPS today. Super expensive new over 20 years ago, cheap as anything used on eBay ?.
 
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DigitaLife

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Hi,
i use this one and it works perfect for 30” ACD with Mac Pro 2019:
importent for all possible resolution list you need to hold the control key when change the resolution.
Hi Trike Mike, I recently bought a Mac Pro 7.1 and already having an Apple Cinema Display 30", I bought the Club 3D 3D Gen1 Type-C to Dual Link DVI-D HDCP off Version adapter for Apple Cinema Displays, CAC-1510-A but it doesn't work well!
When I start the Mac (both from Sonoma and Monterey), the monitor shows the Apple logo very large (it starts with a resolution of 1280 x 800). In fact (as you can see from the attached image) the default resolution is 1280 x 800 and even if I can bring the resolution to the maximum of 2560 x 1600, the default still remains 1280 x 800!
Is it possible to make that the default at 2560 x 1600?
I tried pressing the CTRL key and clicking on the resolution but nothing happens!
So it seems that this adapter doesn't work well!
You have the same problem mine?
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
 

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Regulus67

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Hi Trike Mike, I recently bought a Mac Pro 7.1 and already having an Apple Cinema Display 30", I bought the Club 3D 3D Gen1 Type-C to Dual Link DVI-D HDCP off Version adapter for Apple Cinema Displays, CAC-1510-A but it doesn't work well!
I have this adapter as well, but could not get it to work. My Display was manufactured December 2004.
Mine defaulted to the low resolution as well.
When I set the higher resolution, the screen was almost completely scrambled. A few times I managed to have some small area where the picture looked fine, otherwise I could not see anything.

Something like this, but mine was mostly blue everywhere
reddit, digital artifacts
I have seen one reddit post with the same issue as I had, but I seem to not have bookmarked the page.

I gave up, and hooked it up to my Mac Pro 3.1 (El Capitan) again. It works flawlessly with that machine.

Congratulations on your new Mac Pro 7.1 👍
 

DigitaLife

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I have a similar setup to the original post setup: Dual DVI 30" Cinema > Dual DVI to Mini Displayport adaptor (original Apple) to a USB C to Mini Displayport (female) adaptor into the Mac Pro 2019. But the result I'm getting is strange.

When booting, the screen shows the apple logo large and then resized, which I expeected. Then the screen stays black but shows the prompt for me to enter my password to get into the computer along with appropriate account image that was chosen. Once the password is accepted, the screen goes black.

If I change the cable to a different USB-C port, the screen appears normal with windows and the cursor/pointer moving as it follows the trackpad gestures. Then after 10 seconds it goes dark again.

When I have another monitor plugged in, on that monitor, I can go to About this Mac and see that it is recognized as the Apple Cinema Display 30". But it stays black. Display Preferences looks as if the monitor was working.

Any thoughts? I have this as my GPU AMD Radeon Pro W5700X

I have the Dual Link DVI adaptor USB A plug for power plugged into the Mac Pro as well.

Using this chain with my MacBook Pro 15,1 (2018 I think) works just fine. Mirroring or not - works consistently - though it's main purpose is to be a 2nd monitor for the Mac Pro.

Has anyone else had this issue about working fine briefly and then going dark? Or ideas how to solve this?

Thanks!
Hi Deegs,

in August I bought a Mac Pro 7.1 2019 (second hand but from 2022 still under warranty with Apple Care), 3.2 GHz Intel Xeon W 16 core, with 96 GB RAM and with the same GPU you have, the AMD Radeon Pro W5700X 16GB!
I'm going crazy because I can't get the 30’ ACD connected to one of the GPU's Thunderbolt 3 ports to work properly!
I initially tried an adapter like this:
connected via the Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter (Apple original), but the screen remains black even if the Mac Pro sees it (by opening System Settings, Displays) while I use another monitor (LED Cinema Display 27") connected to the same GPU as my main screen.
Then I tried this adapter:
connected directly to the monitor (without Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter (Apple original) and it actually works but the boot apple is very big because it starts with the default resolution (1024x640) and not with the maximum resolution (2560x1600)... so every time I have to go and change the resolution!
I have now installed a second GPU which I removed from a Mac Pro 5.1, an AMD Radeon VII 16 GB, to which the ACD 30’ is connected via the usual Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter (Apple original) and a DisplayPort (M) to Mini DisplayPort (F) adapter: this works fine but I need the GPU on the other Mac Pro!
I also tried other adapters like the first one I mentioned (from other brands) but to no avail!
Finally I went to the Apple Store, I contacted Apple Care, but even after numerous phone calls I haven't solved anything... they made me try to install macOS Sequoia where however the problem remains!
The only test I haven't done yet is to try connecting it with an adapter to the HDMI port!
If anyone, like me and Deegs, has the same problem I ask you for help to solve it!
Thanks in advance!
 

DigitaLife

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Having barley justified the cost of my lovely new 7,1 Apple's new 6K display is out of the question. I've used my ageing but capable 30" Apple Cinema Display for a while now and it still suits me very well. For audio production I really appreciate all that 16:10 visual real estate and it's one of the few displays out there that really compliments the 7,1 aesthetically. Retina will be a nice upgrade later down the line, but I'm not a graphics or video editor who really needs it.

But to get an explicitly DL-DVI display to work required a bit of a dongle train. My 7,1 only includes x2 HDMI ports on the Radeon 580 and x4 DisplayPort outs via the TB3 ports. To get around this I got this neat little USB-C to MiniDisplayPort adapter on Amazon. Next in the chain had to be a MiniDisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI adapter. Thankfully I already owned the official Apple one for use with my 2011 13" MBP. So together it basically upgraded the Apple adapter to USB-C on one end. I was able to test this configuration successfully with a 2019 13" MBA before my Mac Pro arrived.

View attachment 884519 View attachment 884521

Thankfully all went to to plan and the day my 7,1 arrived I was able to boot up with eerie silence using my big beautiful 30" ACD. It might be old but it still manages to look better than most displays on the market today if you ask me. A small touch, but I was pleasantly surprised to find the display is still fully recognised in Catalina as an authentic Apple Display with a link to the manual and all. Brilliant.

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Hi Tevion5,
I have a Mac Pro 7.1 with AMD Radeon Pro W5700X MPX GPU (macOS Monterey, Ventura, Sonoma and Sequoia) and I'm desperate, because after trying different ways to connect my ACD 30" (see my post #69), without success, the last test I have left to do is to buy the CHOETECH adapter that you used and try!
What I ask you is if you can confirm if the ACD starts immediately with the maximum resolution (2560x1600) or not? And if you tried it only with Catalina or also with the most recent versions?
I await your response before proceeding with the purchase of the adapter!
Thanks in advance!
 

tevion5

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Hi DigitalLife,

My 30" ACD power brick sadly died over a year ago and I haven't replaced it, but while I was using it it worked perfectly with the Mac Pro 7,1. It always booted at full 2560x1600 resolution, I never had to adjust it. It worked at least up as far as Ventura, I presume it still works but just haven't tested it beyond that since my power brick died. I currently use the newer Studio Display so I just haven't had need to fix it.

FWIW I also upgraded my Mac Pro with the W5700X MPX so it shouldn't be an issue either.
 

DigitaLife

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Hi DigitalLife,

My 30" ACD power brick sadly died over a year ago and I haven't replaced it, but while I was using it it worked perfectly with the Mac Pro 7,1. It always booted at full 2560x1600 resolution, I never had to adjust it. It worked at least up as far as Ventura, I presume it still works but just haven't tested it beyond that since my power brick died. I currently use the newer Studio Display so I just haven't had need to fix it.

FWIW I also upgraded my Mac Pro with the W5700X MPX so it shouldn't be an issue either.
Thank you Tevion5!
I really appreciated your reply and it is encouraging!
But then do you recommend I buy the same adapter you used from CHOETECH?
Could you send me a link where I can find it?
Thanks a lot in advance!
 

DigitaLife

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Jan 24, 2019
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Hi DigitalLife,

My 30" ACD power brick sadly died over a year ago and I haven't replaced it, but while I was using it it worked perfectly with the Mac Pro 7,1. It always booted at full 2560x1600 resolution, I never had to adjust it. It worked at least up as far as Ventura, I presume it still works but just haven't tested it beyond that since my power brick died. I currently use the newer Studio Display so I just haven't had need to fix it.

FWIW I also upgraded my Mac Pro with the W5700X MPX so it shouldn't be an issue either.

Hi Tevion5,
I have a Mac Pro 7.1 with AMD Radeon Pro W5700X MPX GPU (macOS Monterey, Ventura, Sonoma and Sequoia) and I'm desperate, because after trying different ways to connect my ACD 30" (see my post #69), without success, the last test I have left to do is to buy the CHOETECH adapter that you used and try!
What I ask you is if you can confirm if the ACD starts immediately with the maximum resolution (2560x1600) or not? And if you tried it only with Catalina or also with the most recent versions?
I await your response before proceeding with the purchase of the adapter!
Thanks in advance!
Hi tevion5,

I bought the same adapter (CHOETECH) you used and connected it for the first time yesterday.


It works at full resolution, but with one small detail that I don't like at all: when starting the Mac, during startup, the ACD 30‘ shows the very large Apple logo (at the lowest resolution) on a completely black background and then, after logging in (still in black background and not with the Sonoma background), the ACD 30’ lines up at full resolution, the small Apple logo (maximum resolution) appears for a moment and then the desktop.
Do you remember if the same thing happened to you?
It's strange, because in any case if I go to system settings, monitor settings, the maximum resolution (2560 x 1600) appears as the default resolution!
Thanks in advance!
 

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