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MP 7,1 Mac Pro 2023 Teardown

ZombiePhysicist said:
:rolleyes:


There's an old saying about "in the long run". Yea, in the mean time, who cares what other people need.
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Apple has no solution for the slice of pros in that space. No one is arguing with you. My personal caring or not doesn’t change the reality that Apple simply doesn’t have a working mode for a certain segment of pros.
 
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Spaceboi Scaphandre said:
Which they won't, because it's Apple

They made it clear they have no interest in supporting those GPUs anymore. They want everyone on the iGPUs of the M series chips. These GPUs are insane no doubt and are capable of great things, but for industry professionals it's not enough.
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It seems from, at the very least, Apple's claims, that the M2 Ultra GPU will handily beat out any one single GPU option that was available on the 2019 Mac Pro. If you were someone who bought a 2019 Mac Pro and only had one GPU (with no interest in adding a second one to the existing one), it sounds like what you'd get with any M2 Ultra configuration would be an upgrade in performance. So, other than industry professionals that specifically needed either (a) 2 of any one MPX module or (b) any of the Duo MPX modules, I'm not sure how you can make that claim.

Again, as a disclaimer (since this is clearly a hot button issue): I'm not saying the 2023 Mac Pro is a viable replacement for ALL 2019 Mac Pro customers. Clearly those who need more than 192GB of RAM are screwed. But, Apple, having just spent the last decade under fire by Pros for producing insufficient workstation options, likely calculated that this Mac Pro, while alienating some, wouldn't alienate enough for it to be a repeat of the trash can fiasco.
 
Mac Pro is now just a machine for super specialised work-streams, broadcasting and audio, which require various (audio, SSD etc) PCI-E cards that are absolute musts.

For Generic Workstation, we have the Mac Studio now. (Trashcan format v2.0) We just need to wait until Apple GPUs are closing the gap on standalone graphics solutions (and that's saying something)
 
tsialex said:
You are correct and I should have written current Apple Silicon Macs.

Most Macs with Apple Silicon M1 still have the traditional model identifier scheme, while the M1 Mac Studio already have the new Mac14,x identifier.

Interestingly the $500 DTK Mac mini with the A12Z had the model identifier ADP3,2.
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Yeah, or rather Mac13,x for the M1 Studios. It doesn't matter though. But I like the old identifier scheme better. :)
 
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