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Trungha

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Trungha

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You haven't tell us what you did. You expect us tell you all possibilities, which most of them are meaningless?
Sorry for this omission! I tried to upgrade to X5690 before! I didn't open and install the CPUs! I have spoiled A Heastsink! I replaced it! Now I have no temperature values and the fans are noisy!
 

tsialex

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At least the CPU tray SMC controller is not working/damaged. In most cases, this requires a tray replacement to be solved. A tray repair at this level is too costly to be economical, since involves replacing the SMC micro controller with another one removed from an early-2009 CPU tray that have another problem, you can't just replace the SMC with brand new one since no one other than Apple itself has the source firmware to program a blank H8S micro controller.

The PCIe sensors not showing/working could be a collateral problem of the damaged SMC tray, test your Mac with a known working early-2009 CPU tray before anything.
 
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h9826790

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Sorry for this omission! I tried to upgrade to X5690 before! I didn't open and install the CPUs! I have spoiled A Heastsink! I replaced it! Now I have no temperature values and the fans are noisy!
If the CPU still with the lid, you have to pull out the fan connector on the heatsink, and manually connect them to the tray.

In any case, something is wrong. It's not just the CPU (and associated heatsink) sensors' problem or the tray's problem. The HDD 12V line also shows zero, which is on the logic board.
 

tsialex

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If the CPU still with the lid, you have to pull out the fan connector on the heatsink, and manually connect them to the tray.
Not the problem, look at the temperature sensors on the screenshot, not one from the CPU tray is working, while the both the boosters are working and showing rotation.
 
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Trungha

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At least the CPU tray SMC controller is not working/damaged. In most cases, this requires a tray replacement to be solved. A tray repair at this level is too costly to be economical, since involves replacing the SMC micro controller with another one removed from an early-2009 CPU tray that have another problem, you can't just replace the SMC with brand new one since no one other than Apple itself has the source firmware to program a blank H8S micro controller.

The PCIe sensors not showing/working could be a collateral problem of the damaged SMC tray, test your Mac with a known working early-2009 CPU tray before anything.
Oh my God! it is so awful! Can I test it with Mac pro 2010? I don't have 2009 to test!
 

Trungha

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If the CPU still with the lid, you have to pull out the fan connector on the heatsink, and manually connect them to the tray.

In any case, something is wrong. It's not just the CPU (and associated heatsink) sensors' problem or the tray's problem. The HDD 12V line also shows zero, which is on the logic board.
I have replaced the original CPU of the machine! 2.93
 

tsialex

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Oh my God! it is so awful! Can I test it with Mac pro 2010? I don't have 2009 to test!
No, SMC version mismatch between early-2009 (1.39f5) and mid-2010/mid-2012 (1.39f11), SMC will not work when it's firmware is mismatched between the CPU tray and backplane.

For anything else inside the Mac Pro, you can use early-2009 or mid-2010/mid-2012 parts, just not when you need to test the SMC.
 

Trungha

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No, SMC version mismatch between early-2009 (1.39f5) and mid-2010/mid-2012 (1.39f11), SMC will not work when it's firmware is mismatched between the CPU tray and backplane.

For anything else inside the Mac Pro, you can use early-2009 or mid-2010/mid-2012 parts, just not when you need to test the SMC.
What bad news! Do you think I should rerun Firmware? I still don't believe my tray is damaged!
 

tsialex

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What bad news! Do you think I should rerun Firmware? I still don't believe my tray is damaged!
Only Apple has the SMC firmware. Like I explained before, no one outside Apple is capable of updating or even writing a MP4,1 or MP5,1 SMC firmware.
 
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Trungha

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Only Apple has the SMC firmware. Like I explained before, no one outside Apple is capable of updating or even writing a MP4,1 or MP5,1 SMC firmware.
Thank you! Are there any dangerous pins that could be the reason?
 

tsialex

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Thank you! Are there any dangerous pins that could be the reason?
Changing early-2009 dual CPU processors are not trivial, too easy to damage it and lot's of things can/ perhaps will go wrong - even when you have experience.

Diagnose your Mac Pro with another known working early-2009 CPU tray.
 
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Trungha

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Changing early-2009 dual CPU processors are not trivial, too easy to damage it and lot's of things can/ perhaps will go wrong - even when you have experience.

Diagnose your Mac Pro with another known working early-2009 CPU tray.
Thanks You!
 

Macschrauber

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There are some odds on the report:

5 pcie Slots ?
Dimm on Risers ?

Is there OpenCore active spoofing another machine ?
 
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