Mac Pro PCI-E SSD Boot Drive

[7racer]

Yes. This attaches it to the logic board's SATA controller, and is the easiest way to have a bootable drive (no EFI compatible cards required). It happens to be the least expensive and easiest way to go.

hahaha thanks!! Let me know where to ship the pizza and 6 pack!

thanks for ALL of the help!

 

[nanofrog]

hahaha thanks!! Let me know where to ship the pizza and 6 pack!

thanks for ALL of the help!

Pizza.... Yum. But I don't think it would do well in shipping.
Beer... Meh... not my favorite. Balvanie single malt scotch OTOH... But not with a pizza.

But you're welcome to treat yourself, as you're the one paying for the new gear and doing the installation work.

 

[haravikk]

Sorry to bump this but I'm interested in bootable PCI-E SSD drives, but didn't see if any verdict was reached about one?

I currently have four 750gb hard drives in the internal bays of my early 2008 Mac Pro, in a RAID-0 (striped) software array, but I currently have it as a single massive volume which is also my start-up disk.

So I'm hoping to get a bootable SSD so I can have the OS and applications on the SSD, and user-folders/files on the big RAID drive. Then probably go all out and use a RAM-disk for /tmp and other hot-spots to avoid writing to the SSD too much (and since I have plenty of RAM for my needs so I can spare a bit).

I was hoping there'd be a good compatible PCI-E card for a single SSD, as while my lower optical bay is free I'm planning to get a Blu-Ray drive at some point as well, and installation for an SSD in that bay seems a bit unwieldy, plus with it using one of the spare SATA ports behind the main fan I'm not certain it would be bootable? I have an eSATA drive currently connected to one of those and although it's meant to be bootable OS X won't work from it.

Also, I'm hoping to run a boot camp installation of windows from the SSD, which is something I just can't do at the moment with the RAID array.


Lastly, to weigh on the RAID part of the discussion; I'd definitely just start with software RAID; installing most cards is expensive, and a massive hassle for usually very small gain at best. The Software RAID is actually pretty damned fast as it is for opening large files, so the main area you'd see improvement from a hardware RAID would be in small-files (which the SSD should cover the bulk of anyway), so in my opinion it's just not worth it.

I'm running a four-disk striped array and it's got huge capacity and high-speed. Of course there's no redundancy, but I have a pair of external USB drives in another array that is just as big, and which Time Machine can back-up onto.

 

[nanofrog]

Sorry to bump this but I'm interested in bootable PCI-E SSD drives, but didn't see if any verdict was reached about one?

For booting OS X, the answer is unfortunately No. They can boot Windows in a MP (been tried successfully with an OCZ Revo IIRC).

There's just not enough of a market (such cards would need EFI32 for 2006 - 2007 MP's, EFI64 for 2008 and newer, or EBC based firmware <runs in either EFI32 or EFI64, which allows a "one size fits all" approach>).

I currently have four 750gb hard drives in the internal bays of my early 2008 Mac Pro, in a RAID-0 (striped) software array, but I currently have it as a single massive volume which is also my start-up disk.

A stripe set definitely improves sequential throughputs (moving large files), but they don't improve matters for random access (what OS/applications use relies on).

So I'm hoping to get a bootable SSD so I can have the OS and applications on the SSD, and user-folders/files on the big RAID drive. Then probably go all out and use a RAM-disk for /tmp and other hot-spots to avoid writing to the SSD too much (and since I have plenty of RAM for my needs so I can spare a bit).

In terms of SSD's, the boot capability is to do with the SATA controller they're connected to, not the drive itself. So as the included SATA ports (ICH = I/O Controller Hub) are bootable in your system, just attach an SSD to one of the ports.

Please note, as you're interested in dual booting via Boot camp, use HDD bays 1 - 4, as the ODD ports won't boot Windows without a hack, which is somewhat complicated. Much easier to just use an HDD bay.

I was hoping there'd be a good compatible PCI-E card for a single SSD, as while my lower optical bay is free I'm planning to get a Blu-Ray drive at some point as well, and installation for an SSD in that bay seems a bit unwieldy, plus with it using one of the spare SATA ports behind the main fan I'm not certain it would be bootable? I have an eSATA drive currently connected to one of those and although it's meant to be bootable OS X won't work from it.

Then something's got to go external.

On the surface, it would appear to be cheaper to place the SSD externally. Unfortunately however, a bootable card under OS X is by no means common or cheap (I've only found one, and it's $400 USD). So you'd want to take the existing HDD stripe set externally. The easiest and cheapest way to do this, is to get a 2 port eSATA card that supports Port Multipliers (example), and a 4 bay Port Multiplier enclosure (example kit = card + enclosure). But there is a speed penalty for this (PM chips top out at ~250MB/s).

For additional speed, you need a 1:1 disk to port ratio. To do this, you'd need a 4 port eSATA card (cheapest I know of that works in a MP = here), and either a 4 bay enclosure that has 4x eSATA ports on the back (these are getting hard to find as most, if not all have been discontinued, but here's an example), or 4x individual disk enclosures.

Either way, OS X can still operate these drives in a stripe set (backup the data first, as they'll almost certainly be re-initialized to create a new set on the new location = existing data will be wiped out).

Also, I'm hoping to run a boot camp installation of windows from the SSD, which is something I just can't do at the moment with the RAID array.

You cannot do this with RAID at all. Neither software or hardware implementations support this.

Lastly, to weigh on the RAID part of the discussion; I'd definitely just start with software RAID; installing most cards is expensive, and a massive hassle for usually very small gain at best. The Software RAID is actually pretty damned fast as it is for opening large files, so the main area you'd see improvement from a hardware RAID would be in small-files (which the SSD should cover the bulk of anyway), so in my opinion it's just not worth it.

For stripe sets, there's no need to go with a RAID card at all (small throughput benefit at best), and it's costly.

It's other levels, particularly those that aren't supported by OS X, that you require the use of a proper hardware RAID card (OS X is only good for 0/1/10 and JBOD).

 

[haravikk]

For booting OS X, the answer is unfortunately No. They can boot Windows in a MP (been tried successfully with an OCZ Revo IIRC).

Damn, that's unfortunate

A stripe set definitely improves sequential throughputs (moving large files), but they don't improve matters for random access (what OS/applications use relies on).

Yeah as I've found unfortunately! Luckily my small-file access demands aren't large, and I have the array set to large-ish stripe-size (128k if I remember right) which actually seems to help start-up speeds stay close to what they were with just the one drive. In-use the latency for small files is definitely observable, but since most of my use-case is large files (huge images or media files) the trade-off has been okay, but with Lion round the corner it's time for my OS launch incremental speed tweak

In terms of SSD's, the boot capability is to do with the SATA controller they're connected to, not the drive itself. So as the included SATA ports (ICH = I/O Controller Hub) are bootable in your system, just attach an SSD to one of the ports.

In that case then that probably means the non-brand company that makes my eSATA dock flat-out lied on their box when they said it supported booting, as my SATA to eSATA back-plate definitely supports it, but the dock doesn't, damn! But as you point out later it wouldn't matter for Windows anyway, damned infernal pernickety operating system that it is.

[Then something's got to go external.]

Please note, as you're interested in dual booting via Boot camp, use HDD bays 1 - 4, as the ODD ports won't boot Windows without a hack, which is somewhat complicated. Much easier to just use an HDD bay.

Hmm, I don't suppose there are any other solutions, for example, is it possible to power a hard drive from one of the two GPU power ports, or rather, does an adapter exist?

As I'm only using one of those ports then the spare one, combined with one of the two spare SATA ports could connect one of the four hard-drive bays, while a bit of trickery and maybe a heat-resistant plastic shelf in a PCI slot should give me room to connect the SSD into one of the iPass to molex connectors.

In theory at least, or is there an easier way to draw the power down? I suppose at that point I'd be just as well finding out how to fit it to the other optical bay and getting the Blu Ray drive externally instead, since that's starting to sound simplest.

It's other levels, particularly those that aren't supported by OS X, that you require the use of a proper hardware RAID card (OS X is only good for 0/1/10 and JBOD).

That's mainly what I meant, but even so for the cost of a card supporting RAID-5 you can just do what I did and get some big external drives to back-up onto normally, so you have the speed of striped at the trade-off of deferred back-ups rather than effectively instant ones. The hassle, expense and/or utterly terrible drivers (Highpoint-Tech and their pathetic excuse for a company springs to mind) just doesn't seem worth it even on the professional side of things. Better to just get a machine dedicated to massive storage, a fibre-channel card and just stuff your Mac Pro full of cache drives and be done with it.

 

[nanofrog]

Yeah as I've found unfortunately! Luckily my small-file access demands aren't large, and I have the array set to large-ish stripe-size (128k if I remember right) which actually seems to help start-up speeds stay close to what they were with just the one drive. In-use the latency for small files is definitely observable, but since most of my use-case is large files (huge images or media files) the trade-off has been okay, but with Lion round the corner it's time for my OS launch incremental speed tweak

The simple solution (to speed up OS and applications), is an SSD as a boot disk (gets around the lack of an EFI bootable PCIe Flash drive).

As per Lion improving matters, I wouldn't put that much faith in it, as disk I/O is still a major bottleneck for any computer (can be solved, but it takes hardware to get past what a single disk can do - SSD or HDD).

In that case then that probably means the non-brand company that makes my eSATA dock flat-out lied on their box when they said it supported booting, as my SATA to eSATA back-plate definitely supports it, but the dock doesn't, damn! But as you point out later it wouldn't matter for Windows anyway, damned infernal persnickety operating system that it is.

I expect they based it on a PC running BIOS and Windows.

The MP's firmware can cause limitations (most are boot related, but not all - there's been various firmware issues with MP's over the years; eSATA cards in the 2009 for example, and the inability to boot Windows off of the ODD ports in a 2008 is another - not a comprehensive list, but should give you an idea). And the inability to access the firmware directly makes matters harder (why some of these issues exist).

Hmm, I don't suppose there are any other solutions, for example, is it possible to power a hard drive from one of the two GPU power ports, or rather, does an adapter exist?

GPU power is +12V only. Disks and other peripherals use other voltages as well (i.e. +5V). Theres other voltages regulated by the PSU as well, but those are used by the boards.

I suppose at that point I'd be just as well finding out how to fit it to the other optical bay and getting the Blu Ray drive externally instead, since that's starting to sound simplest.

Something's got to go external.

There's options, including taking the optical drives external (I actually like this method <USB based 5.25" enclosure>, but it's not always that easy <finding a 5.25" enclosure> or cost effective to do). But if you're talking about a lot of drives, then it starts to make sense (i.e. there's 3rd party companies that specialize in MP accessories that allow for additional drives). MaxUpgrades and TransInt'l in particular (i.e. MaxUpgrades has a device that can allow for 8x SSD's in a single optical bay).

That's mainly what I meant, but even so for the cost of a card supporting RAID-5 you can just do what I did and get some big external drives to back-up onto normally, so you have the speed of striped at the trade-off of deferred back-ups rather than effectively instant ones. The hassle, expense and/or utterly terrible drivers (Highpoint-Tech and their pathetic excuse for a company springs to mind) just doesn't seem worth it even on the professional side of things. Better to just get a machine dedicated to massive storage, a fibre-channel card and just stuff your Mac Pro full of cache drives and be done with it.

Depends on what the user needs.

I totally agree on Highpoint being a waste of time and an equivalent to throwing good money down the drain (especially for RAID users), but Areca and ATTO are not (they make the fastest RAID cards out there, and they're also bootable under EFI). So if a user needs more than ~660MB/s in throughput (that figure is the bandwidth limitation in the ICH), or redundancy is needed, then a RAID card may be the way to go (DAS configurations).

SAN has it's place (multiple users - either mass numbers of them <database>, or fewer with very high bandwidth needs <i.e. video editors/animators>), but for a single user, it's not the right way to go. Setup a proper DAS, and be done with it. NAS too, but it has it's own limitations (good for low speed shared data amongst a few users/systems).

BTW, I like things like Fibre Channel and Infiniband... (me loves clusters and SAN ). Unfortunately, they're also expensive as heck for independents and SMB's (I stress "S = small", as they usually don't have that kind of budget, even if it's truly what they need to be using).

 

[Tom Sawyer]

OWC PCI-e SSD

I would hope this will be bootable for OSX being developed by OWC:

http://eshop.macsales.com/NewsRoom/Framework.cfm?page=PR/ssdent_100710.html

 

[elvisizer]

yeah, i've been eagerly awaiting more news of that OWC drive. the press release is the only thing i've seen so far, and we're well past the 'early 2011' release timeframe they talk about in it.

 

[elvisizer]

BTW, I like things like Fibre Channel and Infiniband... (me loves clusters and SAN ).

you should come up here to skysound for a visit, nano! we've got fibrechannel infrastructure out the wazoo for the protools cluster.

 

[nanofrog]

yeah, i've been eagerly awaiting more news of that OWC drive. the press release is the only thing i've seen so far, and we're well past the 'early 2011' release timeframe they talk about in it.

I'm sure there's a few others as well, including myself (expect they've hit some snags with it, and are still trying to iron it out).

you should come up here to skysound for a visit, nano! we've got fibrechannel infrastructure out the wazoo for the protools cluster.

As in Skywalker Sound (skysound.com)?

Pics please. I've stored up some extra drool...

BTW, need anyone to keep it running or better yet, find a way make it faster?

 

[haravikk]

As per Lion improving matters, I wouldn't put that much faith in it, as disk I/O is still a major bottleneck for any computer (can be solved, but it takes hardware to get past what a single disk can do - SSD or HDD).

Oh I hold no allusions to Lion improving performance, moving the OS to the SSD is what will hopefully improve that, along with some extra RAM and clever use of RAM-disks for commonly used caches.

My computer is simply well overdue for being nuked and re-initilised fresh; I still don't know how I manage to bog my machines down so badly, but somehow I do! My point was though that since I'm waiting for Lion before I do that then I may as well hold off on setting up an SSD till then as well. I'm gonna have to set a day aside for all this, as I expect my Mac Pro's also overdue a spring clean to get out all the dust, and one of the fans has taken to giving off a high-pitched whine just to annoy me…


I think optical bay is where it's going to be at, it actually sounds easier than I first thought, as I already have cables for both of the spare SATA ports leading to my eSATA back-plate, but I only have one eSATA drive anyway so I can easily just route the cable to the optical bay instead. Then all I need is a splitter and a drive, I'm thinking that this SSD ought to be plenty, as while my applications folder is huge I ought to be able to keep some of the bigger ones (games and the like) elsewhere, and I'll put caches and things into RAM-disks or onto the regular hard-disks as appropriate.

 

[Transporteur]

I'm gonna have to set a day aside for all this, as I expect my Mac Pro's also overdue a spring clean to get out all the dust, and one of the fans has taken to giving off a high-pitched whine just to annoy me…

I recommend a "self-service", meaning to run the fans on full speed for a couple of minutes via SMCFanControl or iStatMenues.
Blows out the majority of dust and makes annual cleaning sessions unnecessary if you do it regularly. I did this just yesterday and it fixed an annoying humming noise one of my Pro's fans made since last week.
Bloody carpet.

 

[elvisizer]

I'm sure there's a few others as well, including myself (expect they've hit some snags with it, and are still trying to iron it out).


As in Skywalker Sound (skysound.com)?

Pics please. I've stored up some extra drool...

BTW, need anyone to keep it running or better yet, find a way make it faster?

i'll see if I can get some pics for you, nano, and PM you- I'm working at the other ranch (big rock) and the LDAC offices right now- sky sound is at the main ranch. They owe me some favors, tho, I just set up their PGP server for them and trained them on instadmg imaging.

 

[nanofrog]

Oh I hold no allusions to Lion improving performance, moving the OS to the SSD is what will hopefully improve that, along with some extra RAM and clever use of RAM-disks for commonly used caches.

Exactly. There are solutions, but they require hardware. But to keep the system cost down, it's not included in base models, and has to be added by the user as either CTO or via 3rd party upgrades.

My computer is simply well overdue for being nuked and re-initilised fresh; I still don't know how I manage to bog my machines down so badly, but somehow I do! My point was though that since I'm waiting for Lion before I do that then I may as well hold off on setting up an SSD till then as well. I'm gonna have to set a day aside for all this, as I expect my Mac Pro's also overdue a spring clean to get out all the dust, and one of the fans has taken to giving off a high-pitched whine just to annoy me…

Sadly, it's the nature of computers and more importantly, the software (keep adding more and more files that the system wants to index, and then there's other things like code bloat to deal with too...).

I see it as a never ending battle.... Such as "WOOT! New computer!... 6 months later.... Dang this thing is SLOW!" sort of situation sound familiar?

BTW, I hope cleaning out the dust bunnies will tame the fan for you as it did for Transporteur.

I think optical bay is where it's going to be at, it actually sounds easier than I first thought, as I already have cables for both of the spare SATA ports leading to my eSATA back-plate, but I only have one eSATA drive anyway so I can easily just route the cable to the optical bay instead. Then all I need is a splitter and a drive, I'm thinking that this SSD ought to be plenty, as while my applications folder is huge I ought to be able to keep some of the bigger ones (games and the like) elsewhere, and I'll put caches and things into RAM-disks or onto the regular hard-disks as appropriate.

The optical bay makes the most sense for internal expansion past the HDD trays. There are other 3rd party solutions, but they're limited as to how many disks can be added that way (product I'm thinking of).

When you say splitter, do you mean for power?

As per the Kingston SSD, I'd search the forum for Kingston SSD's, as they may not have that great a reputation (seem to recall the didn't, though the recent TRIM Enabler application <has a thread in here somewhere...>, may solve the issues it had). Worth doing the research before you plunk down the cash IMO.

If it doesn't seem like the best way to go, you could consider Intel based SSD's (I know you can get them locally, but I'm not sure on the pricing falling within what you're willing to pay - there is a size discrepancy, as the Intel that best fits is 80GB <closest to 64GB>). OWC is another alternative, and they will ship it to you (other UK members have bought from them in the past). Not sure what will be the cheapest way to go however. Wish I were better with sourcing gear in the UK, but I've only seen the sort of gear I need to locate (usually after RAID gear) from scan.co.uk.

i'll see if I can get some pics for you, nano, and PM you- I'm working at the other ranch (big rock) and the LDAC offices right now- sky sound is at the main ranch. They owe me some favors, tho, I just set up their PGP server for them and trained them on instadmg imaging.

Looking forward to them.

 

[haravikk]

I recommend a "self-service", meaning to run the fans on full speed for a couple of minutes via SMCFanControl or iStatMenues.

Ah, I completely forgot iStat Menus can do this, it's worth a try at least! The damned fan seems to be working just fine, but it seems to have specifically developed the most annoying sound imaginable just for any occasion that my graphics card is working that little bit harder than normal… heh.

When you say splitter, do you mean for power?

Ah yeah sorry, it looks like the kind I need (4-pin to one or two 15-pin SATA) is actually really cheap, I was expecting a lot more hassle but I suppose power-splitters are a lot more common than the more obscure data cables I've looked for in the past.

As per the Kingston SSD, I'd search the forum for Kingston SSD's, as they may not have that great a reputation (seem to recall the didn't, though the recent TRIM Enabler application <has a thread in here somewhere...>, may solve the issues it had). Worth doing the research before you plunk down the cash IMO.

Thanks for the warning, I'll check that out! The other one I'm looking at is an OCZ Vertex which has only a slightly lower capacity (60gb rather than 64gb, though given the way drives are measured they may actually be identical in size). I'll have a rummage around anyway, as I've never had any trouble with Kingston products before, but then SSD's are pretty new territory for me!

[edit] Actually, won't Lion have TRIM support built-in? So it might not be an issue, however the OCZ drive has pretty good numbers for read and write speed, I'll have to go hunt for reviews…

 

[nanofrog]

Ah yeah sorry, it looks like the kind I need (4-pin to one or two 15-pin SATA) is actually really cheap, I was expecting a lot more hassle but I suppose power-splitters are a lot more common than the more obscure data cables I've looked for in the past.

Every once in a while, you luck up and are able to use standard, inexpensive cables designed for use in PC's.

Thanks for the warning, I'll check that out! The other one I'm looking at is an OCZ Vertex which has only a slightly lower capacity (60gb rather than 64gb, though given the way drives are measured they may actually be identical in size). I'll have a rummage around anyway, as I've never had any trouble with Kingston products before, but then SSD's are pretty new territory for me!

[edit] Actually, won't Lion have TRIM support built-in? So it might not be an issue, however the OCZ drive has pretty good numbers for read and write speed, I'll have to go hunt for reviews…

TRIM/garbage collection has been an issue with SSD's in Macs to date, but there's some issues Lion can't fix. Specifically, poor design (Bill Of Materials = parts selection - based on lowest cost, not actually tested properly for functionality) and Quality Control = high percentages of dud drives or those that fail quickly. This should come up when you research the drives (pay attention to various forums as well as the user review section of newegg.com - quite useful in terms of evaluating QC). BTW, actually read the newegg user reviews, as some will give 5 eggs due to newegg's return policy.

 

[haravikk]

Right, I think I'm going for either the OCZ Vertex 2 120gb drive, or the mostly identical 120gb drive from OWC. Also, I noticed this on OWC, which might solve my problem of installing Windows with Boot Camp, as while an SSD I believe is safe to leave loose in the optical bay, a normal hard drive is not.
However, with that adapter, I should be able to move one of my current, regular hard-drives into the optical bay, and just slap the SSD into one of the standard drive bays so that it'll be Windows bootable?

Also, the way my computer is set up it's awkward to open so I prefer not to do so if I can avoid it, so I just want to confirm that this power splitter cable should be adequate for putting a hard drive in the optical bay of my early 2008 Mac Pro? I probably don't really need the split cable, but I figure I may as well not restrict myself in case I use it for something else in future, I just want to be sure I've got the right connections for actually putting it in, and will it be long enough?

It seems that I'm still in no rush as the current XCode doesn't appear to be Lion compatible for some mad reason, and with a few niggling bugs in the Lion GM release I might be waiting for 10.7.1 anyway.

 

[clyde2801]

Just get a normal SSD and put it in the lower optical bay (if it is free of course)

http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-InstallingSSD.html

Please provide link to free SSD's ASAP.

 

[haravikk]

Please provide link to free SSD's ASAP.

SSD's, like any technology, are not free. Playalistic was talking about your optical drive bay; on a Mac Pro you get two, and most machines only come with a single superdrive, so the bottom bay can be used to produce space for up to two additional 3.5", or smaller, drives.

 

[yauzers619]

San Diego based Apricorn has a PCIe SSD Array.

http://www.apricorn.com/product_detail.php?type=family&id=71

Not the fastest SSD, but there maybe a way to self upgrade.

 

[clyde2801]

SSD's, like any technology, are not free. Playalistic was talking about your optical drive bay; on a Mac Pro you get two, and most machines only come with a single superdrive, so the bottom bay can be used to produce space for up to two additional 3.5", or smaller, drives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humor

 

[haravikk]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ettiquette

playalistic's post didn't imply free SSD's sufficiently to warrant posting about it in jest to point out confusion, and in a forum for hardware discussion and support making a post solely to be an ass isn't appropriate in the slightest.

If you have no advice to give about SSD's, PCI-E or otherwise, then kindly do not post.

 

[clyde2801]

I'm finding this thread terribly enlightening, and will continue to quietly follow it. It's gratifying to learn about the multitude of options available to the MP coming from a consumer mac background. Having an 09 SP, I'm contemplating an SSD in the optical drive bay (My God, talk about easy-peasey!) and possibly phillipma's quad nehaelm to six core westmere transplant, but think I'll wait to see if 10.7 changes the mix by interfering with the hacked TRIM or EFI software before I attempt either, or the latter certainly.

Oh, and one last little thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prig

I will now flagellate myself offline for daring to make a little joke in an internet forum. Next time, I'll post one of those little smiley doo-hickeys to show that it was not meant seriously. Lighten up, Francis.

 

[emunity]

Old Thread But Great News for MAc and PC Laptop Owners I know and trust this company and just bought this for my MAc Pro it boots up the hard drive a couple ways. In Mac hold down the option key and or once in MAc OS tell it to startup disk the external Sata (eSATA)

Worked 100% on my Mac Pro 2008 and this works on Laptops Mac and Windows

One catch its expensive but can go up to 6G WOOOOOOOOWs

http://www.firmtek.com/seritek/seritek-6g/

 

[I N E R T I A]

Late, but nice to know.

So, I can't do this with my 2008 Mac Pro, but since you have a 2009 model, and you're STILL up to get this PCI SSD boot drive on your Mac or if anyone else is curious about doing this, here's a card that will enable you to install any SSD into the PCI slots and actually use the drive through the PCI port, rather than the card just being a platform to hold the SSD somewhere:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SSD-Upgr...ltDomain_0&hash=item1e69255b9d#ht_3203wt_1297

Remember, this card only works with 2009 or later Mac Pros. (really wish I had a 2009 model right now).