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Mac Pro & Seiki 39" 4K display - under $500 delivered
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The only lag is the screen refresh rate of 30Hz/fps. For the price, the desktop space can't be beat for a couple more months.
thanks! my wife actually just bought this for Christmas! got it tonight! i do notice a very slight lag moving the mouse, but not much. love it so far!
Congrats! Be sure to apply the terminal command to disable VSYNC in terminal: -sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver Compositor -dict deferredUpdates 0
This is fascinating. An amazing deal... Although I see the price went up today. Personally, I'm going to wait until sometime next year to make the jump, although at that sale price point it's a no brainer... Worst case you replace it later when the tech matures and relegate it to the wall as a wicked digital picture frame.
I'm curious... I've been using dual monitors for over a decade now (currently 2x24" 1920x1200), and I'm wondering if this could be the display that does away with the need for dual screens. Can any of you comment on that?
Also, there seems to be a variety of 4K panels hitting the market at different sizes... 24", 28", 32", 39"... What do you think the sweet spot will be for size at this resolution? (For example, I think 24" is retina territory requiring scaling - too high DPI for native res). Thoughts?
I'm curious... I've been using dual monitors for over a decade now (currently 2x24" 1920x1200), and I'm wondering if this could be the display that does away with the need for dual screens. Can any of you comment on that?
Also, there seems to be a variety of 4K panels hitting the market at different sizes... 24", 28", 32", 39"... What do you think the sweet spot will be for size at this resolution? (For example, I think 24" is retina territory requiring scaling - too high DPI for native res). Thoughts?
Dell announced three upcoming 4K monitors. The 28" which they say will be under $1000 might become quite popular.
If it really is under $1000 it'll be a steal, the 24" doesn't have a price yet though, and the 32" is over $2500 I think.
If I was to get a 4k display it'll probably be the Dell as it's geared towards professionals, and won't have a nastily glossy screen.
A 32" would be prefect for me, as I like the screen real-estate but don't like multiple monitors or bezels breaking up my work space. It's just that price tag.
Two 28" at $2000 is still more space, and costs less than a single 32".
Oh certainly! Although the only thing that's stopped me form getting a Seiki 4K TV is that they don't sell it in Europe.
Plus I'd need a GPU upgrade to even get over that 30Hz limit of it.
Yes, I'm sure many people will be looking for GPU upgrades as 4K monitors become more and more common.
When I looked at the Dell specs, it said it handled 4K @ 60Hz over DP 1.2, but there was an asterisk next to "DP 1.2" and I could not find any footnotes relating to it. I guess I will have to wait and read the reviews for more info...
When I looked at the Dell specs, it said it handled 4K @ 60Hz over DP 1.2, but there was an asterisk next to "DP 1.2" and I could not find any footnotes relating to it. I guess I will have to wait and read the reviews for more info...
I certainly look forward to those as well. If they're out before the nMP, I hope Anandtech and others do a combined review to see just how well the nMP handles 4K.
There is such thing as Dell support knowledge base online. The manual for the 2414Q isn't online yet but the 3214Q is:
http://www.dell.com/support/Manuals/us/en/19/Product/dell-up3214q
One of the notes inside is consistent with other UHD 4K monitors released so far.
" .. NOTE: Ensure that your graphics card driver can support DP1.2 with MST feature, capable of displaying 3840 x 2160 at 60Hz and its driver supports DisplayID v1.3, or the display may not show correctly. ... "
page 37 in the Monitor's User Guide.
The graphics card , OS , and drivers need to deal with all the aspects of DisplayPort v1.2 including doing MST ( multi stream transport). What happens is that two screen data streams are pumped out and then merged in the monitor.
Graphics cards that are DP 1.2 capable but effectively have just DP v1.1a capable drivers aren't going to work at this resolution and refresh rate.
'Out of the box' the default for these displays are set to DP v1.1a (" The default out of factory setting in the UP3214Q is DP1.1a." p. 46 same manual ). That shows what the expectation is about what kind of GPU+drivers that most folks have right now. That is probably why the asterisk.
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There is a price. There was a whole thread yesterday on the front page
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/12/0...t-1399-28-inch-4k-model-coming-at-under-1000/
Most likely the $1000 models dumps the "Precision Color" (i.e., uses a less expensive backlight system. ) and looses several other features. It may also be different panel technology also.
The 32" is well over $2500; actually closer to $3,500
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=210-ACBL
Hopefully they have improved their antiglare hard coat. For a while some were nastily glazed instead.
There is no content "real estate" difference here between these Dell UHD monitors. It is same number of pixels. The pixel density is varying. To a large extent is about how small/big stuff is on the screen. Pragmatically I don't think the OS's are going to be up to more effectively using these pixels. Infrastructure there but how that works with the need for MST and this many pixels and aspect is new, so probably has glitches.
If the high fidelity color isn't an issue then yes it is cheaper. TN panels are cheaper still.
Ah I never visit the front page anymore, all I saw on other sites was 24" and 28" ones are coming.
Quite true, it has been a tad harsh sparkling whites and all that.
yup, although since I'll most likely be mounting this on the wall in front of my desk, the larger monitor with larger text and icons will help.
It's a damn shame OS X still doesn't give the same control as Windows in regards to system wide font, and icon sizes.
After years of IPS, I can't stand sitting in front of a TN panel anymore. They're only saving grace is refresh rate, and there's already a VA panel that offers 120/144hz refresh rates.
Regarding the new Dell 4K options and New Mac Pro's, would we be stuck with using the HDMI port as oppose to Thunderbolt?
Or is there a clear working Thunderbolt to DisplayPort converter?
Id like to avoid the mess I have with using current Mac Pro > GEFFEN DUAL DVI > Apple Cinema 30s.
The cabling is horrendous and at times flaky during switching.
Or is there a clear working Thunderbolt to DisplayPort converter?
Id like to avoid the mess I have with using current Mac Pro > GEFFEN DUAL DVI > Apple Cinema 30s.
The cabling is horrendous and at times flaky during switching.
You won't need a Thunderbolt adaptor of any sort since neither the monitor nor the Mac Pro has that port.
Many video cards have HDMI so you wouldn't have to convert it to use it on the HDMI port of the monitor.
From what I understand, and I could very well be wrong, to get full 4K resolution, you will need to use Display Port.
Many video cards have HDMI so you wouldn't have to convert it to use it on the HDMI port of the monitor.
From what I understand, and I could very well be wrong, to get full 4K resolution, you will need to use Display Port.
To get 4K ar 60 Hz you need to use one of the thunderbolt 2 ports
By using the hdmi port, you will get 4k at 30 Hz
There is no such thing as a thunderbolt to mini display port adapter as you said. TB carries the DP signal via the same port.
Having said that, OS X itself needs to be updated to deal with 4k at 60 Hz, if I recall correctly.
A Thunderbolt 2 port. The new Mac Pro will have 6 of them. You can connect 3 x 4K monitors. The late 2013 rMBP also has TB2 ports. TB2 port carries a DP 1.2 signal.
