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They are literally the most ridiculous prices I’ve ever seen. They compared the display to a broadcast monitor.
[doublepost=1559587498][/doublepost]The audience gasped when there was a 999 cost for the fu@&ing stand
 
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The mac pro is not for you guys but for pros, pros are not price sensitive
I am a pro thanks. And these prices are CRAZY. Pro doesn't mean endless funds. 6k for a system with a 256gb of storage as a base is crap. The display cost is absolutely shocking. $999 for a bloody stand. It's like selling a lasagne without the topping, and charging extra for it.
 
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I am a pro thanks. And these prices are CRAZY. Pro doesn't mean endless funds.
Even if you spec a Mac Pro, display and other stuff, lets say you spend 20k, keep it for 3-5 years, thats a TCO of 20k for up to 5 years, in the same time, the employee salary, taxes, etc etc (obviously depending on field) for the same time is +150'000USD (varies hugely obviously). So no complaint about the expenses for salary and other costs associated with it but complaining like crazy about the cost of the tools to get the job done, and that tool just cost a fraction of the employee itself.
 
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Good Grief. At $2500, the old Mac Pro was at least obtainable for someone who wasn't a pro but still wanted a modular Mac Tower without resorting to a hackintosh. At $5000, only professionals will be using this thing for sure. I'd love a consumer level version that would be make for a nice legit alternative to an unstable hackintosh.
 
Even if you spec a Mac Pro, display and other stuff, lets say you spend 20k, keep it for 3-5 years, thats a TCO of 20k for up to 5 years, in the same time, the employee salary, taxes, etc etc (obviously depending on field) for the same time is +150'000USD (varies hugely obviously). So no complaint about the expenses for salary and other costs associated with it but complaining like crazy about the cost of the tools to get the job done, and that tool just cost a fraction of the employee itself.
The bigger problem here with the MacPro is support. Apple basically neglected the previous version, will they do the same here?
 
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I don't know which model they came up with, but with on-going CPU war, their base mac pro price is crazily expensive.
I built my desktop, with 48 gig of ram, 2x 512 ssd, 2x4tb hd, 1080ti for less than $3,000.
WOW
 
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Even if you spec a Mac Pro, display and other stuff, lets say you spend 20k, keep it for 3-5 years, thats a TCO of 20k for up to 5 years, in the same time, the employee salary, taxes, etc etc (obviously depending on field) for the same time is +150'000USD (varies hugely obviously). So no complaint about the expenses for salary and other costs associated with it but complaining like crazy about the cost of the tools to get the job done, and that tool just cost a fraction of the employee itself.
Very accurate,but people that are not pros and needs this doesnt think in this logic,but in “this is ugly” this is pricy etc
 
I'm really impressed. Always something to complain about on these forums... If they charged $5,999 for the monitor and included the stand, people would complain that they don't want the stand because they VESA mount theirs.
I admit the 256GB SSD is a joke. Other than that, this was the high-end workstation pretty much everyone was asking for. If you don't want or need this level of performance, the iMac Pro and iMac fill in the lower performance tiers pretty nicely. It's expensive, but really delivers where it counts. For everyone else, there are PCs. I didn't see any of you budget millions of dollars for R&D, so you're paying for that when (if) you buy one.
 
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Even if you spec a Mac Pro, display and other stuff, lets say you spend 20k, keep it for 3-5 years, thats a TCO of 20k for up to 5 years, in the same time, the employee salary, taxes, etc etc (obviously depending on field) for the same time is +150'000USD (varies hugely obviously). So no complaint about the expenses for salary and other costs associated with it but complaining like crazy about the cost of the tools to get the job done, and that tool just cost a fraction of the employee itself.
missing the point my friend. Pro doesn't mean it "needs" to come with a ridiculous price point. For what it is offering to start with it's expensive. Configure a PC to the same base and you'll see it's overpriced, yes the OS is different. That's it. From someone who spent £7000 on a 2013 Mac Pro last time, disappointed would be an understatement.
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I'm really impressed. Always something to complain about on these forums... If they charged $5,999 for the monitor and included the stand, people would complain that they don't want the stand because they VESA mount theirs.
I admit the 256GB SSD is a joke. Other than that, this was the high-end workstation pretty much everyone was asking for. If you don't want or need this level of performance, the iMac Pro and iMac fill in the lower performance tiers pretty nicely. It's expensive, but really delivers where it counts. For everyone else, there are PCs. I didn't see any of you budget millions of dollars for R&D, so you're paying for that when (if) you buy one.
R&D they literally looked at the old cheese grater, and remade it. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS! Really?!
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Very accurate,but people that are not pros and needs this doesnt think in this logic,but in “this is ugly” this is pricy etc
Ok so to be a pro you need a massive company, turning over millions? Of course. That's the definition of PRO NOT!
 
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missing the point my friend. Pro doesn't mean it "needs" to come with a ridiculous price point. For what it is offering to start with it's expensive. Configure a PC to the same base and you'll see it's overpriced, yes the OS is different. That's it. From someone who spent £7000 on a 2013 Mac Pro last time, disappointed would be an understatement.
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R&D they literally looked at the old cheese grater, and remade it. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS! Really?!

2 million dollars pays about a dozen of their hardware engineers' salaries for a year. I would absolutely put money on it that Apple spent millions of dollars on R&D for this product over the past few years. Don't forget the firmware and software going into the mix... so yes, really.
 
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So the base model begins at $6K. That's $2K less than competing Win10 machines. The tricked out version of those boxes is $150K but have twin 28 cores while the new Mac Pro has a single.

This will be interesting.

Let's see, they compared the new monitor to its $43,000 competitor.

This appears to be the machine that the film industry has been waiting for at a significant $aving$ over its competition.

If you need this machine, you're an industry pro and have been cursing the price of the competition, none of it being made by Apple.
 
Good Grief. At $2500, the old Mac Pro was at least obtainable for someone who wasn't a pro but still wanted a modular Mac Tower without resorting to a hackintosh. At $5000, only professionals will be using this thing for sure. I'd love a consumer level version that would be make for a nice legit alternative to an unstable hackintosh.

Exactly
 
So the base model begins at $6K. That's $2K less than competing Win10 machines. The tricked out version of those boxes is $150K but have twin 28 cores while the new Mac Pro has a single.

This will be interesting.

Let's see, they compared the new monitor to its $43,000 competitor.

This appears to be the machine that the film industry has been waiting for at a significant $aving$ over its competition.

If you need this machine, you're an industry pro and have been cursing the price of the competition, none of it being made by Apple.
The reference monitors are typically used in Edit suites, for broadcast. They also have a huge host of inputs. SDI. Sync etc. They have compared it to that, so they can justify the cost. But you can but an EIZO display, professional display for A LOT less. I configured a PC a few weeks ago. Can pay £5 for a fully specd system.
 
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