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Sharky II

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Good luck with that. I hope it works for you too.

Unfortunately it did not - despite being a RTL9210B chipset. It would just completely stop working after a few seconds. I couldn't get Blackmagic Speed test to work. I probably just had a dud so I'm sending it back.

It was also surprisingly badly made - as UGreen and Sabrent's similarly priced 10Gpbs enclosures feel much better - would have still kept it though, if it had worked. Also, the included heat pad doesn't actually touch the case and half the case was plastic which can't be great for heat. Very strange.

Anyway, I've given up. I've ordered an Acasis TBU405Pro (currently £105-120), which is a 40Gbps/USB4 drive enclosure with an OPTIONAL fan. I've also bought a 120mm fan + fan controller which I'll run at low speeds that will effectively silently blow over these drives and keep their internal fans off or on minimum settings.

So now I'll have a 2TB NVMe and a 1TB NVMe both in 40GBPs enclosures, and a few SATA SSDs in USB3 enclosures.

In the future I will not buy NVMe drives unless I'm going to put it into one of these 40Gpbs enclosures. I'll stick with pre-made Samsung T7 or T9 type drives for up to 1000MB/sec, or older SATA SSDs in a USB3 enclosure for 450-500MB/s.

I've also got the option of using the internal drive for current projects, which I currently do for audio. For video and photos though, they'll be stored externally as I 'only' have a 1TB internal drive and my main work is in audio.
 
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Unfortunately it did not - despite being a RTL9210B chipset. It would just completely stop working after a few seconds. I couldn't get Blackmagic Speed test to work. I probably just had a dud so I'm sending it back.

It was also surprisingly badly made - as UGreen and Sabrent's similarly priced 10Gpbs enclosures feel much better - would have still kept it though, if it had worked. Also, the included heat pad doesn't actually touch the case and half the case was plastic which can't be great for heat. Very strange.

Anyway, I've given up. I've ordered an Acasis TBU405Pro (currently £105-120), which is a 40Gbps/USB4 drive enclosure with an OPTIONAL fan. I've also bought a 120mm fan + fan controller which I'll run at low speeds that will effectively silently blow over these drives and keep their internal fans off or on minimum settings.

So now I'll have a 2TB NVMe and a 1TB NVMe both in 40GBPs enclosures, and a few SATA SSDs in USB3 enclosures.

In the future I will not buy NVMe drives unless I'm going to put it into one of these 40Gpbs enclosures. I'll stick with pre-made Samsung T7 or T9 type drives for up to 1000MB/sec, or older SATA SSDs in a USB3 enclosure for 450-500MB/s.

I've also got the option of using the internal drive for current projects, which I currently do for audio. For video and photos though, they'll be stored externally as I 'only' have a 1TB internal drive and my main work is in audio.

Yes it's really cheap quality, but for me it's working without a single auto ejection. Maybe it's because I have an older SSD in it. It was bought in 2017 or 2018. I think one of my 1TB WD blues. Have to look what those are. Found it it's just SATA III and from 2016. I think all of the drives I bought back then were only SATA. But seem to have the same problem in most enclosures.

Maybe I found out what the really good working RAID enclosure for two SSDs was called exactly. I don't know where I put it at the moment. There should be newer versions now and it already had 3.1 Gen 2 in 2017.
It also works with only one SSD in it and you can use RAID0 to have more speed.
Isn't Apple doing this RAID0 thing too in recent device? Or are the two flash modules only adding up their space together? Don't know what this RAID is called for only two devices, I think there is a different word for it. Found what I meant JBOD (just a buch of disks). That's also possible with that enclosure and of course mirroring with RAID1. There are jumpers to change those settings. It has just the size of a 2.5" drive.

Others I tried in the last time or a single drive didn't even recognize the drive in it or ejected every few minutes and were much more expensive. This sending back is annoying, there were times Amazon just gave you the money back for things that didn't work and you could just keep them. Some manufacturers do this if I contacted them directly per email outside of Amazon for stuff worth 40-50 Euro.

I'll only buy Thunderbolt enclosures in the future too. TB3 and 4 might get cheaper soon, when TB5 is available everywhere.

I have two of those in it's own USB-C enclosure and they are very good:


The fastest ones are only available for internal use. Would those work in a TB3/4 enclosure? Looks like they need big heatsinks.



Same link format, no preview. Strange. Sometimes even only the description of the link is seen here.


There are also those open adapters/docks where you can put in several drives in, m.2 and SATA. They have more space for cooling if you only but the m.2 drive in. But the one I tried also had the disconnection problem and also was only 5 Gbit/s and not 10 what was written in the description and box.
 
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PaulD-UK

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My minisopuru USB-C enclosure/hub also has a RTD-9210* chip (with a Kioxia NVMe 2TB).
It fails to stay mounted directly connected to my M1 Mac mini, although with different cables some are better than others...

However I now use it connected to a TB3 dock and it stays mounted and consistently reliably.
I think it's only disconnected once in about 12 months (during sleep).

So a cheap (or used) TB3 dock, preferably one with an Intel Titan Ridge JHL7440 chipset, is the way to make cheap USB-C SSD/NVMe enclosures compatible with M* Macs.
 

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My minisopuru USB-C enclosure/hub also has a RTD-9210* chip (with a Kioxia NVMe 2TB).
It fails to stay mounted directly connected to my M1 Mac mini, although with different cables some are better than others...

However I now use it connected to a TB3 dock and it stays mounted and consistently reliably.
I think it's only disconnected once in about 12 months (during sleep).

So a cheap (or used) TB3 dock, preferably one with an Intel Titan Ridge JHL7440 chipset, is the way to make cheap USB-C SSD/NVMe enclosures compatible with M* Macs.

I purchased that one from minisopuru, a hub where you can put a drive in:


It did not recognize any drive. Also tried it with TB4 and 3 Docks.

I have:

iVANKY FusionDock Max 1 (with double TB4 connection)
Caldigit TS4
Caldigit TS3 lite

But I didn't test it with everything and every port.
 
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PaulD-UK

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Mine is the original Mac mini stand:

Apart from the fact that a WD Blue NVMe blew up (which I got replaced under warranty :)),
it's subsequently worked fine with the Kioxia NVMe - connected to my WD D50 TB3 dock.
 
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I found this RAID-enclosure that is doing good work for me since 7 years on any port. But there is no model name or number anywhere and it's also gone from my Amazon purchases list somehow. I will search somewhere else and put the link in here if I find it.

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Good German quality, of course made in China. 🙃

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There is a new one with 20 Gbit/s now and some others:



One of those must be mine, only SATA but it's from 2016 originally:

MacOS isn't even mentioned only Linux and Windows, but for the newer ones it is.


Thunderbolt is also available, but this is only for one drive:


I wonder why they are not on Amazon anymore...

Many European countries are listed and even South Africa for shops to buy, but not UK.



Found some prices, not very cheap the cheaper one on the first pic is open box:

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Same shop (they somehow have two) but cheaper: https://direkt.jacob.de/produkte/delock-usb-type-c-42029-artnr-100494538.html

Found also this on Amazon:


I was able to buy with my German Amazon login in France, Italy, Spain and UK, even USA worked but I don't know if it was the same account.
 
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