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Apple: Hey! Let’s run it back 😄

  • Apple’s custom-built UltraFusionpackaging technology uses an embedded silicon interposer that connects two M3 Max dies across more than 10,000 signals, providing over 2.5TB/s of low-latency interprocessor bandwidth, and making M3 Ultra appear as a single chip to software.
 
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Apple: Hey! Let’s run it back 😄

  • Apple’s custom-built UltraFusionpackaging technology uses an embedded silicon interposer that connects two M3 Max dies across more than 10,000 signals, providing over 2.5TB/s of low-latency interprocessor bandwidth, and making M3 Ultra appear as a single chip to software.
So the chip could have literally been out a year ago.
 
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this all makes no sense. I was ready to spend 8k on an m4 ultra this year, but hey- apple doesn't seem to want my money!
Because Tim wants an extra 3k from you by selling the M4 Ultra in the Mac Pro.
 
So in two years do we get the M6 Max and M5 Ultra?
Mehhhh in two years my M2 Ultra will feel seriously old, while rn going to the m3 makes no sense. I assume they’ll come out with a beefy Mac Pro in the meantime.
 
Oh agreed. His understanding is low and so his far out prognostications are suspect, especially when based on his own chain of logic rather than evidence, but usually in the past when he has said, X is happening in the next couple of weeks, his accuracy has been high.

However, the tweet is actually very not confident about what chips will be there - the actual quote is that "There are signs these will come with an M4 Max but that its new Ultra chip will actually be an M3 Ultra". So in fairness he's hedging his bets here (unlike the last time he made an almost equally puzzling prognostication that the M4 iPad Pro was launching soon that turned out to be true and he was fairly adamant it was happening). So he simply may be not understanding what the "signs" mean. Whatever those "signs" are.

Kremlinology Gurman edition.


Perhaps. Sure.
Mr Clownfish is down bad. I’m getting the impression the only info Clownfish gets comes from one camera dude who tags along with a YouTube personality to the Apple hands-on events prior to launch.

Clownfish hedged so much on the M3 Ultra and waited all the way until the day before launch to post because - he has no sources at Apple.

And not a single person would call him back to corroborate what Camera Dude passed along to him.

Lucky break for Clownfish that Camera Dude hooked him up.
 
this all makes no sense. I was ready to spend 8k on an m4 ultra this year, but hey- apple doesn't seem to want my money!

So in two years do we get the M6 Max and M5 Ultra?
There is a possibility that we'll still get M5 Ultras with the Mac Pro this year. It depends on the identifiers for the upcoming M3 Ultra Studios - if they are 15,x (likely as that was what the M3 generation of Mac used) then there are still 17,x devices expected before the next OS release and those could very well be M5 Mac Pros. However, if the M3 Ultra Studio identifiers are 17,x then we don't expect any additional chips/devices at least before the launch of the next OS. Obviously the Mac 17s could refer to a non-Mac Pro M5 released before the next OS. But we should still know more in a couple of weeks.

Mr Clownfish is down bad. I’m getting the impression the only info Clownfish gets comes from one camera dude who tags along with a YouTube personality to the Apple hands-on events prior to launch.

Clownfish hedged so much on the M3 Ultra and waited all the way until the day before launch to post because - he has no sources at Apple.

And not a single person would call him back to corroborate what Camera Dude passed along to him.

Lucky break for Clownfish that Camera Dude hooked him up.
Camera dude?
 
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There's an interesting piece about Gurman from John Gruber over at Daring Fireball here. It pretty much sums up what I've thought about Gurman for a long time.

Also, people seem to be getting hung up on the M3/M4 numbers. They're just numbers, and they only have relation when comparing (ugh, gotta say it) apples to apples. Call the M3 Ultra M4 Ultra and suddenly nobody has a problem with it – even though it would be the exact same computer. I'm over-simplifying it of course (because there are variables at play), but that's essentially what's going on here – just like the M2 Ultra is more powerful than the M3 (nothing), and the more powerful M4 Ultra that probably gets released with the M5 (nothing).
 
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