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lieb39

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Mar 17, 2005
284
0
Melbourne, Australia
Hello everyone,

I'm having a hard time justifying this to a family member - why macs are better than PCs. I've thought of the obvious but I need some help. Thanks :)

Obvious:
- Easier
- Get more done overall
- Less crashes
- Beauiful O.S., Applications and hardware
- Little quirks (E.g. Spell checking in every textbox)

Thanks,

lieb39
 

ZoomZoomZoom

macrumors 6502a
May 2, 2005
767
0
lieb39 said:
Hello everyone,

I'm having a hard time justifying this to a family member - why macs are better than PCs. I've thought of the obvious but I need some help. Thanks :)

Obvious:
- Easier
- Get more done overall
- Less crashes
- Beauiful O.S., Applications and hardware
- Little quirks (E.g. Spell checking in every textbox)

Thanks,

lieb39

I enjoy using a mac, just because of the little quirks. f9, f10, and f11 make my day. The spell checking's nice. Program integration is a huge plus. And everything just looks really pretty.

However, I can't totally agree with less crashes. Safari crashes a ton on me, even after repairing permissions. And for some reason, Warcraft 3 crashes if I use force quit hotkey instead of exiting through menus. Just these little things annoy me greatly.
 

weg

macrumors 6502a
Mar 29, 2004
888
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nj
lieb39 said:
Hello everyone,

I'm having a hard time justifying this to a family member - why macs are better than PCs. I've thought of the obvious but I need some help. Thanks :)

The excellent hardware/software integration... though, to be honest, this is easier to achieve for Apple than for Microsoft, since Apple only has to support only its own hardware.
Furthermore, I love the consistent user interface. It's not like Linux, where everything seems to be just put together in an arbitrary way.
 

mad jew

Moderator emeritus
Apr 3, 2004
32,191
9
Adelaide, Australia
By the way, it's much easier to show people that Macs are better rather than explain it to them. If you have access to a Mac, give them a run on it for a little while. That's how I got my uncles, aunts and cousins to believe me that they're better, I lent them my iBook. :)

Of course, this isn't always possible.
 

Blue Velvet

Moderator emeritus
Jul 4, 2004
21,929
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The lack of genuine viruses for the platform — and impervious to the hostile swarm of nasties that await the unwary PC user.
 

lieb39

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Mar 17, 2005
284
0
Melbourne, Australia
All very good points guys. Also with the virus, the lack of spyware and such and such which bothers users.

I guess other points are finding the stuff you need a lot faster with Spotlight, and just the ease of use.

keep up the points :)

Thanks,

lieb39
 

Orlando Furioso

macrumors 6502
Apr 12, 2005
345
0
Bezerkeley
ZoomZoomZoom said:
I enjoy using a mac, just because of the little quirks. f9, f10, and f11 make my day.

yeah, those little quirks are annoying if you are accustomed to using f-key shortcuts in maya, flash, etc. The concept though, brilliant.

I would have to say I enjoy how intuitive using macs can be. For example I discovered loooooong ago that using the spacebar selects/confirms a "haloed" button/option. It does not make sense why it would be this, but I tried it one day for no reason, and it worked! Stumbling into little discoveries like this totally make me fall in love with the mac all over again.
 

Marky_Mark

macrumors 6502a
Sep 30, 2005
810
0
UK
Blue Velvet said:
The lack of genuine viruses for the platform — and impervious to the hostile swarm of nasties that await the unwary PC user.

This is a big one and the best qualitative reason to move.

1. There are NO Mac OS X viruses currently;
2. There is NO Mac OS X spyware currently;
3. The built-in firewall is extremely secure - all ports are disabled by default

Other reasons are:

4. A single hardware platform/OS supplier means superior integration
5. Unix back-end makes Mac OS far more stable than Windows (despite what you might deduce from these forums - in the main, most people aren't power-users and don't routinely stretch the OS so far it breaks)
6. Apple's design ethos means that the hardware is extremely good looking and durable, especially when compared with the raft of cut-price far-eastern clone manufacturers

If I think of more I'll let you know. I tried not to focus on trivial details - the above points are compelling, high-level, easily digestable points which should get the message across.
 

myrmidonjosh

macrumors newbie
Oct 5, 2005
10
0
STL
My macs just work without flaw...I think that pretty much sums it up.

Cutting-edge Tech with cutting-edge Style

Just sit 'em down in front of your mac and throw the flashy Expose and Dashboard effects in their faces and listen to the 'ooooooohhs' and 'aaahhhhs'. That's when you know you've got 'em hooked. ;)
 

FFTT

macrumors 68030
Apr 17, 2004
2,952
1
A Stoned Throw From Ground Zero
Microsoft made it's fortune based on lowest bidder mentality.
Most people still using Windows simply do not realize how much difference a well thought out operating system can make to their overall computing experience.

We have countless testimonials from switchers simply
stunned that so much power and control could be this easy
to use.

With Mac OS X and especially now with Spotlight, the user knows exactly where to find their information and the search
function in Spotlight is amazingly fast.

All your personal documents, files, photos, music, movies and preferences are stored just a few clicks away in your USER folder.

The applications and file names are much easier to identify and locate. None of that Win/32blahblah.dll stuff that is
meaningless to most people.

Add to this the security and stability of OS X with ZERO
effective viruses, adware, spyware & trojans ZERO,NADA NONE!
when compared to what Windows users face on a daily basis.

Be it e-mail, chat and surfing, or making home movies, cutting CD's recording songs, the iLife Suite provides any user the ability to perform these tasks with ease.
Office and small business users are perfectly comfortable
using Microsoft Office for Mac, File Maker Pro, Keynote, Pages
and a vast array of specialized small business applications.

Apple's Pro applications are widely accepted and praised for
the way they increase productivity.

It helps to undertsand that the real difference between P/C
and Mac is not so much in the hardware, but in the operating
system.

Right now a tremendous pool of developers are working to port previous "Windows Only" applications over to OS X.

These developers are finding that OS X flys on their Intel
test prototypes.

The Army, Navy, Air Force are all converting many intensive
projects over to Apple XServe and XSan and delighted with the results and savings. Not to mention the security.

If you want to actually enjoy the use of your computer,
there is no better operating system on the planet.

The best thing you can do to convince your family to consider
Mac OS X is to take them down to the nearest AppleStore.

Let them see all the products sided by side in a proper display.

If they're still on the fence after seeing the newest iMac
up close I would be surprised.

Good luck!
 

fayans

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2005
648
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MacRumors: Forums
The ease of simply dragging any application to the trash can relative to using add/remove in PC Control Panel.

In addition, F9/F10/F11 are simply superb. ;)
 

GorillaPaws

macrumors 6502a
Oct 26, 2003
932
8
Richmond, VA
Think of the two in terms of the transmissions in a car. The PC has a manual transmission where you are required to keep up with your car at all moments. Some people like that (I know I do when I drive). But the Mac is like those hybrid transmissions where it will shift automatically for you, and yet you can still manually shift if you choose. In other words, if you never do anything to your Mac out of the box it's gonna be fine (it auto-updates the software for you) and yet you can still tweak it as much as you want (if your into that sort of thing).

The biggest draw for me is in all of those little things that you never notice are there until you need them--like all of those hidden shortcuts, integrated spelling, consistency between apps (in general, I know some of them have differnt looks but still there pretty darn consistent).
 

shadowmoses

macrumors 68000
Mar 6, 2005
1,821
0
-Looks better
-Stable
-Just Works
-No viruses
-General coolness
-Sleep function
-Expose

Thats about it,

SHadow
 

kretzy

macrumors 604
Sep 11, 2004
7,921
2
Canberra, Australia
I agree with everyone else.....no viruses, no spyware, easy to use, look great, very few major problems in software/hardware/OS and of course all of the little things which make things much more useful and enjoyable - spotlight, dashboard, expose.

I think it's just the overall positive, unique experiences people generally have with Macs that makes them so appealing as opposed to a run of the mill PC running Windows.
 

PharmD

macrumors 6502
Aug 2, 2005
345
1
Oregon Coast
Expose and hot corners rock my world. On a laptop these are the single most useful feature in all of computerdom. I'm one of like 4 people in my entire grad school with a mac and all I get are oooohs and aahhhhs from the design, the functionality, and the stability of a Mac.
 

Melkor

macrumors 6502
Oct 12, 2005
354
0
I'm in the process of moving to apple at the moment (my 15" powerbook should be here tomorrow :D ) and the main reason I decided to move was because I am so pissed off with windows. It just crashes all the time and never, NEVER works efficiently for me.

Also another big thing that sold it for me was that there are no virus' on macs (so im told). My current pc has a virus on it and my norton antivirus isn't working. :mad:

The major only bad thing about moving to mac for me is that games run slower on macs and I cant get all the games I want :( . I WISH apple would sort this out and imagin how many more people would make the switch.
 

devilot

Moderator emeritus
May 1, 2005
15,584
1
Ask them to give it a try.


I never would have believed w/out having my own Mac first. I bought my PB as a 'trying out the Mac world' purchase, since I prefer using desktops. Over the course of 3 months I found myself using my Windows desktop less and less and my PB more and more; even when just at home.

You must try Macs and Mac OS X (and I mean an honest try; not just turning on the machine seeing the close window box on the 'wrong' side and promptly leave the machine) before you can believe the words that otherwise sound cultish.
 

Project

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2005
2,297
0
Letting them use it is the most powerful way. I only switched a month ago, but have managed to convert my girlfriend and two of my best friends.

One of the latter, I tried to convert BEFORE I even switched lol... he seemed interested, but you cant just expect to speak to them and then they switch just on your word. I told him not to buy his next laptop before he had at least had a mess around on my new iBook. He saw a good offer for a Vaio last week and decided to buy it. 4 days later it is getting ready to ship and he comes to mine because we are going to the club. I sit him down at the laptop and tell him to mess around with it. I point out the obvious pleasers, such as Exposé, CoverFlow, Dashboard, Genie effects, the single file DMG App concept, playing Quicktime movies in the dock etc, to the point where he was easily impressed. Then I reiterated the background features such as rock solid stability, lack of malware, viruses etc and he was sold. He cancelled his order for the Vaio immediately. Only problem is its going to take them another week to refund his money before he can buy an iBook.

Hes now facing that awful period of time we call Switcher Wait, lol.
 

Chundles

macrumors G5
Jul 4, 2005
12,037
493
FFTT said:
My favorite cool thing is the text Zoom feature Apple(Command) + or - to ZOOM the text of any web page.


I like screen zooming, option-command-+ to zoom waaay in nice and smoothly, then you can use your mouse to navigate around. option-command - to zoom back out.

So awesomely cool I couldn't believe my eyes. I've had this almost a year and didn't know that one till last week.
 
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