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sirozha

macrumors 68000
Jan 4, 2008
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The 1.8 SSD is 1300 more. For the avg Joe that's a lot of money. Unfortunately I have more time then money so I went with the HDD. I think the biggest diff in speed will be when you boot but I hardly ever do that as I just suspend and it is fast.

If your company is paying for it or your loaded go with the SSD. If you are practical or even somewhat practical go with the HDD. I can tell you the ssd technology will depreciate faster then you can say "air". Also the hdd is durable enough. They have been used in millions of ipods and they bounce around more then your laptop.

Also the 16 extra GB is a nice bonus on these small drives.

When SSD prices come down to $150 or less, is it technically possible to swap out the HDD drive for an SSD drive in MBA? I believe both versions of MBA are using PATA, so if the connector is the same, it should be a one-hour-or-less job to swap out the drives, right?
 

designed

macrumors 6502
Nov 8, 2005
286
1
Finland
When SSD prices come down to $150 or less, is it technically possible to swap out the HDD drive for an SSD drive in MBA? I believe both versions of MBA are using PATA, so if the connector is the same, it should be a one-hour-or-less job to swap out the drives, right?

Certainly looks possible and talks about doing it have been the air (heh), I don't know if someone has done this yet. Currently you will void your warranty by opening the machine but probably the 1 year warranty will have already run out by then anyway.
 

kyleen66

macrumors regular
Jan 29, 2008
101
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Certainly looks possible and talks about doing it have been the air (heh), I don't know if someone has done this yet. Currently you will void your warranty by opening the machine but probably the 1 year warranty will have already run out by then anyway.

However, I believe you don't void your warranty if you have the work done by an authorized apple repair person.
 

johnwarrenod

macrumors newbie
Feb 6, 2008
7
0
First Impression: So far so good.....

A bit of perspective. I'm a recovering PC user, at least for my personal computers. I've been using a MacBook (2.0 gig/2 gig RAM/120HD) for about 20 months. Very happy with the device, but I travel quite a bit to do presentations and wanted a lighter device to schlep through airports, trains, rental cars etc. Enter the MBA....

I bought it yesterday when one of the two somewhat local Apple stores had them in stock. Packaging is typical Apple, incredible piece of industrial engineering/packaging. The MBA specific bag was unexpected but sort of cool....

Booted the device up and grabbed my settings/apps/data from my latest Time Machine backup of my MB and about 30 minutes later I had 24 gig of space left, then I started dumping languages etc and got up to 27.5 gig of space as of this writing. I had trimmed music, movies and photos off of my MB to put them onto the family iMac with access to all of the above via airport/Back To My Mac.

The keyboard feels very familiar, like the backlighting but not a huge thing. Screen is brighter than the screen on the MB, but not all that much different overall.

Having this thing under my arm from room to room or on my lap is incredible. Talk about light!!! Not that the MB was that heavy, but the combo of the MBA and my smallish LCD projector won't weigh that much more than just my MB. I'm looking to traveling the next few weekends with it to see how much of a difference it makes on the shoulders....

I set up a powered USB hub on my desk to allow me to use my ext HD for TM, USB headphones for podcasting and listening to tunes, synching my iPhone/iPods as well as sticking a memory stick or two onto the device as needed. I won't miss the firewire connection to my TM backup drive given the way that it runs in the background.

Overall, I'll give it 4.5 eyeballs out of a potential 5.0 Its not a 5 just because I've only used it for a day sofar....

John Warren, OD
http://www.warreneyecarecenter.com
 

queuecipher

macrumors member
Jan 20, 2008
52
0
Will this myth ever end?!

The warranty is only voided IF the failure is caused by your modification.

Sheesh!

So if a person switches in a SSD and something happens with the computer from that, then the warranty is voided? Sounds risky nonetheless.
 

desenso

macrumors 6502a
May 25, 2005
797
1
Will this myth ever end?!

The warranty is only voided IF the failure is caused by your modification.

Sheesh!

Aren't there seals inside some/all of the laptops which evidence you making a voiding modification, though?
 

chelseasian

macrumors regular
Oct 20, 2004
187
0
New York, NY (Chelsea)
I finally got the MBA. I was hoping for a MBP update this Tuesday but just couldn't wait any more. So everybody please welcome me as your latest member to the MBA owner's club :)

So far, I love it! I bought the external superdrive along with it. I was at the Apple store but the don't have any specific casing for it yet.
 

ctt1wbw

macrumors 68000
Jan 17, 2008
1,730
2
Seaford VA
Well, I just picked my Macbook Air up a few hours ago. I must say that this is a sweet laptop. Much faster than I expected. Boots faster than my Dell Inspiron 1520 which is only about two weeks old now. Apps open on a few bounces, Remote Disc is fantastic. All in all, I'm happy with the 1700 I spent.
 

JasonBourne9

macrumors member
Jan 15, 2008
54
0
Don't have time to post my full impressions here (and I'd end up echoing other people's comments anyway).

One thing that has pleasantly surprised me is the not too shabby battery performance. Today is the first day that I've actually used the MBA in somewhat of a normal setting (yesterday I was busy doing a clean OS install, installing apps, copying files, etc...) and I have had it running for about 4:30 so far in normal use and it is just now reaching the end of battery life. I'm defining normal use as wireless, web, music, couple of videos, played around in photoshop, lightroom, etc... Nothing very heavy and I do have the screen brightness set relatively low (just below halfway) but that is pretty decent use.

I did notice that the time remaining indicator was jumping around a lot depending on the load at that time. Not surprising but maybe it could time average a bit more.
 

jjchando

macrumors newbie
Feb 5, 2008
12
0
Don't have time to post my full impressions here (and I'd end up echoing other people's comments anyway).

One thing that has pleasantly surprised me is the not too shabby battery performance. Today is the first day that I've actually used the MBA in somewhat of a normal setting (yesterday I was busy doing a clean OS install, installing apps, copying files, etc...) and I have had it running for about 4:30 so far in normal use and it is just now reaching the end of battery life. I'm defining normal use as wireless, web, music, couple of videos, played around in photoshop, lightroom, etc... Nothing very heavy and I do have the screen brightness set relatively low (just below halfway) but that is pretty decent use.

I did notice that the time remaining indicator was jumping around a lot depending on the load at that time. Not surprising but maybe it could time average a bit more.

Good to hear :)
 

echo44

macrumors 6502
Jan 21, 2008
373
147
mba day 3

flawless i have the 1.8 ssd the machine is completely silent
no battery issues
remote disc worked flawlessly
this is my 8th mac laptop and i feel the build quality is excellent!

Brought it to work and everyone fell in love with it as other people have pointed out it is just an amazingly sexy product.

Its design is worth the price!!!

The led screen is the best i have ever seen on a laptop.

the keyboard is a little springy for me but very usable.

Its kind of like a fancy sports car that people pay a lot of money for
usually there are cheaper sports cars that can outperform the more exspensive ones however they never feel or look as cool
 

barefeats

macrumors 65816
Jul 6, 2000
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....The SSD write rates at 30Mbps is the true maximum, because no matter how fast your data pipe is getting data into the MBA it isn't going to eat (accept) data any faster than that.

Don't you mean 30 Megabytes per second? (MB/s)? That's what we're getting when we run QuickBench's sustained large block test.
 

ob81

macrumors 65816
Jun 11, 2007
1,406
356
Virginia Beach
flawless i have the 1.8 ssd the machine is completely silent
no battery issues
remote disc worked flawlessly
this is my 8th mac laptop and i feel the build quality is excellent!

Brought it to work and everyone fell in love with it as other people have pointed out it is just an amazingly sexy product.

Its design is worth the price!!!

The led screen is the best i have ever seen on a laptop.

the keyboard is a little springy for me but very usable.

Its kind of like a fancy sports car that people pay a lot of money for
usually there are cheaper sports cars that can outperform the more exspensive ones however they never feel or look as cool

Say that to yourself everynight, and one day you will wake up convinced.
 

JoeGaudet

macrumors newbie
Feb 7, 2008
1
0
First in Fredericton

Well that might be over stating it a bit, however I am probably among the first to receive their MBA in Eastern Canada.

My initial impressions were mostly amazement on how it was so light, lighter than the box it comes in.... crazy.

The migration was a bit more time consuming than I'd hoped, I even had the ethernet adapter.

So far it seems pretty snappy, I do really like waking it up from sleep as compared to my powerbook.

Barring that... It's a computer just like my other macs... just small...

I will say this though, the screen is gorgeous. I hardly want to look at my poor 17" iMac any more, the screen on it is dim by comparison.

All in all I feel it was a good purchase, I am a university student, heading into my masters and I travel a lot. Furthermore for my work I cannot leave my laptop at work, and I need something that runs both OSes so this is a great solution. Beats having two laptops by far.

On a side note, at least 50 people at my school nearly lost it when they saw this baby... The joys of being in computer engineering, people are actually impressed by your new computer!

- Joe
 

scottkifnw

macrumors regular
Jan 17, 2008
217
0
Trophy Club, TX
Caveot Emptor!- Printer woes to avoid

You have two more printing options: wirelessly or via Bluetooth.

I got a new printer to go with my MBA and airport extreme. I got the printer bundled with my MBA. Unfortunately, it was a Canon Pixma ip3500, and guess what? Doesn't run off of the Airport Extreme! I had to switch it out for anHP.

Therefore, even if you buy a printer from the Apple Store, be sure to ask if it is compatible, don't assume!
 

instant hit

macrumors member
Jan 26, 2008
98
0
received my mba on monday, but haven't really had the chance to spend some QT with it till yesterday. so far after 12 hours of cumulative usage:

the backlit keyboard feature needs help. i'm certain it's a driver issue, and it appears it's a problem with the mbp's as well. i argue that if it's advertised, it had better work. i mean if bmw advertises rotating headlamps, it's expected that when you turn right they also turn right; similarly, the ambient light sensor shouldn't shut the backlight off when it senses total darkness. and yes, sometimes my settings stick, but there's no consistency.

spotty 802.11n WPA performance. for reference, i have a DIR-655 with the latest firmware. anyway, i could be seated right next to the router and the connection will drop. also, streaming video from another computer that is hooked up via ethernet results in choppy playback. i've had to pre-buffer the stream to alleviate the problem, something i haven't normally had to do. interestingly, 802.11g WEP performance at work is fine.

those are pretty much the two biggest gotchas at the moment. but rather than sound negative, here are some plusses:

i now use other features of leopard that i normally don't use. my finder is set to coverflow, and i now use spaces to manage different environments -- it also makes for an effective "boss key" to hide what you're really doing (e.g., posting on the macrumors forum!). i don't intend on adapting those habits to my mac pro however!

the screen is just gorgeous. no dead or stuck pixels, and this is the first machine that i've not had to calibrate out of the box. maybe down the road, though. brightness is close to crt, thanks to the led backlit display.

8-hour charge from 20-100% once. and that was monday evening when i took it home to break it in for a bit. a typical charge is about 3 hours on sleep, on par with gizmodo's observations.

it only gets warm. finally, a machine that puts the lap back in laptop. after 3 hours of use on my lap, i have not found it uncomfortable.

best of all, it's a mac. :D hope you all are enjoying yours as much as i am!
 

gr8tfly

macrumors 603
Oct 29, 2006
5,333
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~119W 34N
Got ours yesterday (1.6). Everything perfect, out of the box.

The MacBook Air is a work of art. Oh, yea - and a sweet computer!

I've been doing some post migration cleanup via screen sharing (it's 20' away on wife's desk - I wanted to be in the comfy chair on my MBP w/ACD). No connection problems at all (802.11n, WPA2).

I did the migration using a USB2 drive with image of old 667MHz TiBook. Everything came up fine, (email, etc), as expected.

Haven't checked out the Apple Superdrive yet - maybe later. I'm going to give the Remote Disk a try to install Office '08. Probably a bit big, as installs go, but I'm in no hurry.

After initial Time Machine backup, battery cal. cycle is next.
 

chillywilly

macrumors 6502a
Mar 3, 2005
675
26
Salt Lake City
Finally got around to visiting the Apple Store to see the MacBook Air.

Seeing pics of it only online and making my comments here and there, seeing it in person did something completely different.... I want one of these.

Sure, something smaller like an ASUS Eee PC would be more portable, but this was nice to type on, nice to hold. Very very thin... much thinner than any picture or photo can convey.

I still have my pet peeves about it: no firewire, $300 more than it should be, only one USB port, no user replaceable battery. But I tell you, this thing felt good to actually see in person and it's something that I could use, even putting my MacBook Pro up for comparison for simple tasks (email, Word, Excel, minimal web use).
 

bwiley

macrumors newbie
Feb 4, 2008
9
0
Don't you mean 30 Megabytes per second? (MB/s)? That's what we're getting when we run QuickBench's sustained large block test.

Ahhh yes. My bits and my bytes will bite me forever. :)

I guess it's all this giddiness in the Air... Love this thing.
 

Acex88

macrumors newbie
Feb 4, 2008
3
0
Best Migration

What have everyone found as the fastest way to migrate?

Ethernet (adaptor) Migration
or the USB Time Machine Back-up way?

Just curious.....approximate times anyone?

Thanks!
 

ctt1wbw

macrumors 68000
Jan 17, 2008
1,730
2
Seaford VA
I'm still impressed as hell with my Air after a few days. Plus, when I took it out last night to show my instructor at college, who is also a MacHead, I had several students come over and drool over it. When was the last time someone came over and drooled over a Dell or a Toshiba laptop? :)
 
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