Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
10,625
11,296
Look at 'Stats for nerds' when playing YouTube. Is it decoding VP9 which should be default and less taxing. Or, AV1 if you explicitly configure YouTube to prefer AV1 and more taxing. Have zero issue with VP9 4K60 HDR on 16GB MBA M1.
 

seeyou

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 13, 2010
28
2
Look at 'Stats for nerds' when playing YouTube. Is it decoding VP9 which should be default and less taxing. Or, AV1 if you explicitly configure YouTube to prefer AV1 and more taxing. Have zero issue with VP9 4K60 HDR on 16GB MBA M1.
This is vp9 in 4k60 fps. It's not a performance issue but rather the way chrome renders the video I think.
 

seeyou

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 13, 2010
28
2
this video
is a good example, if we look at the buildings on the side during the scrolling I see many stuttering
 

mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
10,625
11,296
this video
is a good example, if we look at the buildings on the side during the scrolling I see many stuttering

Have tested video playback extensively via YouTube and also locally downloaded via youtube-dl. No issue with your two YouTube VP9 4K60 videos or any VP9 4K60 for that fact but mine is 16GB. It's only with more taxing AV1 4K60 videos where issues start to crop up. Even VP9 8K60 is playable at ~90% while AV1 8K60 is unplayable since it's choppy throughout.
 

seeyou

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 13, 2010
28
2
Have tested video playback extensively via YouTube and also locally downloaded via youtube-dl. No issue with your two YouTube VP9 4K60 videos or any VP9 4K60 for that fact but mine is 16GB. It's only with more taxing AV1 4K60 videos where issues start to crop up. Even VP9 8K60 is playable at ~90% while AV1 8K60 is unplayable since it's choppy throughout.
Can we download youtube videos in 4k60? I thought it was not possible at least not on pc. I also want to ask if there is another way to use youtube? (app download) on mac I am new in the apple universe :) . I tested the same two videos in 1440p60 and no worries with chrome (almost perfect) I think that the 8gb of ram do not allow me with chrome to enjoy the 4k60.
 

mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
10,625
11,296
Can we download youtube videos in 4k60?

That would probably be my next suggestion. Boot your MBA M1 in safe mode then try playing the videos with IINA. You can download the YouTube videos on your Windows device and share with the MBA M1. You'll need youtube-dl and ffmpeg. I put the four executables in one folder.

https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/releases/tag/2021.04.26/
https://www.gyan.dev/ffmpeg/builds/ffmpeg-release-essentials.7z
https://github.com/iina/iina/releases

D:\Downloads\Videos>dir *.exe
Volume in drive D is HDD
Volume Serial Number is 3813-2721

Directory of D:\Downloads\Videos

04/09/2021 02:05 AM 76,434,432 ffmpeg.exe
04/09/2021 02:05 AM 76,296,704 ffplay.exe
04/09/2021 02:05 AM 76,334,592 ffprobe.exe
04/27/2021 09:10 AM 8,171,402 youtube-dl.exe

To see available resolution, frame rate, encoding, bit rate, etc. for a video do the following.
Code:
D:\Downloads\Videos>youtube-dl.exe -F https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ
[youtube] LXb3EKWsInQ: Downloading webpage
[info] Available formats for LXb3EKWsInQ:
format code  extension  resolution note
249          webm       audio only tiny   50k , webm_dash container, opus @ 50k (48000Hz), 1.88MiB
250          webm       audio only tiny   67k , webm_dash container, opus @ 67k (48000Hz), 2.51MiB
140          m4a        audio only tiny  129k , m4a_dash container, mp4a.40.2@129k (44100Hz), 4.84MiB
251          webm       audio only tiny  132k , webm_dash container, opus @132k (48000Hz), 4.96MiB
394          mp4        256x144    144p HDR   63k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.00M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@  63k, 30fps, video only, 2.39MiB
160          mp4        256x144    144p   70k , mp4_dash container, avc1.4d400c@  70k, 30fps, video only, 2.64MiB
278          webm       256x144    144p   82k , webm_dash container, vp9@  82k, 30fps, video only, 3.07MiB
694          mp4        256x144    144p60 HDR  179k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.00M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@ 179k, 60fps, video only, 6.73MiB
330          webm       256x144    144p60 HDR  212k , webm_dash container, vp9.2@ 212k, 60fps, video only, 7.96MiB
395          mp4        426x240    240p HDR  111k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.00M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@ 111k, 30fps, video only, 4.16MiB
133          mp4        426x240    240p  156k , mp4_dash container, avc1.4d4015@ 156k, 30fps, video only, 5.86MiB
242          webm       426x240    240p  160k , webm_dash container, vp9@ 160k, 30fps, video only, 6.00MiB
695          mp4        426x240    240p60 HDR  409k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.01M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@ 409k, 60fps, video only, 15.32MiB
331          webm       426x240    240p60 HDR  444k , webm_dash container, vp9.2@ 444k, 60fps, video only, 16.63MiB
396          mp4        640x360    360p HDR  220k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.01M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@ 220k, 30fps, video only, 8.23MiB
134          mp4        640x360    360p  337k , mp4_dash container, avc1.4d401e@ 337k, 30fps, video only, 12.64MiB
243          webm       640x360    360p  343k , webm_dash container, vp9@ 343k, 30fps, video only, 12.84MiB
696          mp4        640x360    360p60 HDR  862k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.04M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@ 862k, 60fps, video only, 32.28MiB
332          webm       640x360    360p60 HDR  954k , webm_dash container, vp9.2@ 954k, 60fps, video only, 35.70MiB
397          mp4        854x480    480p HDR  406k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.04M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@ 406k, 30fps, video only, 15.19MiB
135          mp4        854x480    480p  563k , mp4_dash container, avc1.4d401f@ 563k, 30fps, video only, 21.08MiB
244          webm       854x480    480p  619k , webm_dash container, vp9@ 619k, 30fps, video only, 23.18MiB
697          mp4        854x480    480p60 HDR 1652k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.05M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@1652k, 60fps, video only, 61.81MiB
333          webm       854x480    480p60 HDR 1848k , webm_dash container, vp9.2@1848k, 60fps, video only, 69.13MiB
398          mp4        1280x720   720p60 HDR 1151k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.08M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@1151k, 60fps, video only, 43.09MiB
247          webm       1280x720   720p 1220k , webm_dash container, vp9@1220k, 30fps, video only, 45.67MiB
136          mp4        1280x720   720p 1540k , mp4_dash container, avc1.4d401f@1540k, 30fps, video only, 57.61MiB
302          webm       1280x720   720p60 1964k , webm_dash container, vp9@1964k, 60fps, video only, 73.48MiB
298          mp4        1280x720   720p60 2475k , mp4_dash container, avc1.4d4020@2475k, 60fps, video only, 92.60MiB
698          mp4        1280x720   720p60 HDR 3829k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.08M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@3829k, 60fps, video only, 143.25MiB
334          webm       1280x720   720p60 HDR 4337k , webm_dash container, vp9.2@4337k, 60fps, video only, 162.26MiB
399          mp4        1920x1080  1080p60 HDR 2151k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.09M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@2151k, 60fps, video only, 80.49MiB
303          webm       1920x1080  1080p60 3475k , webm_dash container, vp9@3475k, 60fps, video only, 130.01MiB
299          mp4        1920x1080  1080p60 4376k , mp4_dash container, avc1.64002a@4376k, 60fps, video only, 163.70MiB
699          mp4        1920x1080  1080p60 HDR 6358k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.09M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@6358k, 60fps, video only, 237.83MiB
335          webm       1920x1080  1080p60 HDR 6738k , webm_dash container, vp9.2@6738k, 60fps, video only, 252.04MiB
400          mp4        2560x1440  1440p60 HDR 5529k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.12M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@5529k, 60fps, video only, 206.83MiB
308          webm       2560x1440  1440p60 10376k , webm_dash container, vp9@10376k, 60fps, video only, 388.14MiB
700          mp4        2560x1440  1440p60 HDR 15170k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.12M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@15170k, 60fps, video only, 567.45MiB
336          webm       2560x1440  1440p60 HDR 16231k , webm_dash container, vp9.2@16231k, 60fps, video only, 607.14MiB
401          mp4        3840x2160  2160p60 HDR 11707k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.13M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@11707k, 60fps, video only, 437.93MiB
315          webm       3840x2160  2160p60 25573k , webm_dash container, vp9@25573k, 60fps, video only, 956.58MiB
701          mp4        3840x2160  2160p60 HDR 28033k , mp4_dash container, av01.0.13M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0@28033k, 60fps, video only, 1.02GiB
337          webm       3840x2160  2160p60 HDR 28869k , webm_dash container, vp9.2@28869k, 60fps, video only, 1.05GiB
18           mp4        640x360    360p  642k , avc1.42001E, 30fps, mp4a.40.2 (44100Hz), 24.03MiB
22           mp4        1280x720   720p 1669k , avc1.64001F, 30fps, mp4a.40.2 (44100Hz) (best)

To download 4K60 VP9 non-HDR plus 132K Opus audio and merge them.
Code:
D:\Downloads\Videos>youtube-dl -f 315+251 --merge-output-format mkv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ
[youtube] LXb3EKWsInQ: Downloading webpage
[download] Destination: COSTA RICA IN 4K 60fps HDR (ULTRA HD)-LXb3EKWsInQ.f315.webm
[download] 100% of 956.58MiB in 01:04
[download] Destination: COSTA RICA IN 4K 60fps HDR (ULTRA HD)-LXb3EKWsInQ.f251.webm
[download] 100% of 4.96MiB in 00:00
[ffmpeg] Merging formats into "COSTA RICA IN 4K 60fps HDR (ULTRA HD)-LXb3EKWsInQ.mkv"
Deleting original file COSTA RICA IN 4K 60fps HDR (ULTRA HD)-LXb3EKWsInQ.f315.webm (pass -k to keep)
Deleting original file COSTA RICA IN 4K 60fps HDR (ULTRA HD)-LXb3EKWsInQ.f251.webm (pass -k to keep)
 
Last edited:

seeyou

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 13, 2010
28
2
Thank you very much, I will test this as soon as I have time, I also tried another browser based on chromium edge and brave. And the problem is exactly the same as with chrome. There is only safari that works perfectly for youtube for example.
 

seeyou

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jun 13, 2010
28
2
Firefox works well for me also
I'm going to give Firefox a chance too, I had probably wrongly had the impression that it was a little "abandoned" browser. Thanks for the comment :)
 

danb1979

macrumors 65816
Feb 5, 2015
1,126
1,679
Preston, Lancs - UK
Make sure you install the M1 version of Chrome. No issue here and works better than Safari.

Just discovered that myself today... Googled what issues may be known before I asked on here and presto; there's a fair few YT videos all stating the lag issues and that you've to download Chrome for the M1 Macs

Did that; zero issues and no glitchy Chrome at all; very impressed :)
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.