MacBook Air Ordered

[zepharus]

Welcome to how a lot of PC users feel about Macs in general! That irritated feeling? That's exactly what a lot of folks get when people tell them to "get a Mac", when there's plenty workable stuff available for less money and better specs.

Welcome to the club. Except this time, it's also for Mac users. And I'm typing this from a Macbook, by the way.

you hit the nail on the HEAD. I love macs and was waiting until today to decide on another purchase.

Im just completely underwhelmed at this MBA thing. This is basically, and thinner, slower, non upgradeable Macbook, with a few of the MBP features.

And for the lovely price of $1800 bucks. Heck for a $1300 more you can get a 200Mhz speed bump and smaller HD to boot!! Not at all a good deal or money well spent if you ask me. Im disappointed, and i want to see what morons order this thing... I love Macs, but im not drinking the Kool-aid if it tastes bad.

 

[GfPQqmcRKUvP]

Zepharus:


What did you expect for a superslim laptop?

 

[Masquerade]

the thing was only one speaker!!! :/

 

[billmister]

Congrats

First Off to the OP, Congrats on the purchase. If you feel comfortable with your purchase that's all that matters.

Now My 2 cents (opinion for the once who don't know what that means).
Ok I like apple alot. I think their one of the BEST companies out! They have, in my opinion, very solid products with high quality with great look.

I purchased my first iMac a little over a year ago, and it's STILL going way strong. Upgrading my HD to 500gig, my ram to 2Gb, my 17' white iMac is kicking @$$. whether it's playing Doom, having multitasking appls (mail, firefox, itunes, finder, pages, ichat, adium, and previewing a video all together). It runs smooth with ZERO PROBLEMS.

For what i paid, $1,200 i believe i got what was right. A great company backing up my imac, good screen quality and size, enough hard drive, and ram.

NOw.....

If i get this correctly, you are getting LESS usb ports. LESS a cd/dvd drive. LESS HD space. PATA hard Drive. for $1000 more you get the 64gig. LOL EXTREMELY THIN computer for $1,700??? Which is REAL CLOSE to a macbook PRO.... But if you want the 64gig, will be $3,000+

I really thought it could of been an error in pricing. I though people would think it's to expensive and not buy it. I mean it's only obvious you getting less... For more money.

Now i'm not rich... Nor am i poor. But it really doesn't take much for me to realize when your getting something a bit way to less for the money. Now apple has been reasonable with prices when it came to ipods, imacs, etc... But with this new laptop, i think they really took it overboard. And the funny part is that people are actually waiting in line to get something less, for more money?

I just don't get it. I just don't know how there are people that follow that type of stuff? I mean Apple is in the position where they can poop and put on loops to use as earings, and there will be people waiting in line to buy it? LOL

I don't know... I will be looking foward to the price drops on the macbooks either on ebay or refurbished. the New macbook Air is not for me. I don't need to be THAT wireless.

One thing i found quite usefull for laptop users is their external Time machine thing. THat seems pretty cool.

I like apple alot, but i think they are going a little overboard on this product. But then again, they will have followers who will pay. So who cares.

Reminds me of when the iphone first came out. Even though some complained, others were litteraly waiting in line for it. Don't get me wrong iphone is a worth it product (just not cool with ATT). They bought it and not one complain about it.

THEN the price dropped like $200 and there they were trying to get their discount.... But they were satisfied with their $500 purchase (or was it $600?)

Anyway. I'm happy with my imac, and to the OP, hope you enjoy and make great use out of your macbook air.

No hate intended. If you are happy congrats, enjoy it, you're getting top of the line product. Make sure to post your opinions when you get it so we know feedback on the product!

 

[zepharus]

Zepharus:


What did you expect for a superslim laptop?

Tonestly the features and such are fine. The pricing is about $400 too high. seriously, in what application would this over a MB make ANY sense?

 

[connectingrodd]

Tonestly the features and such are fine. The pricing is about $400 too high. seriously, in what application would this over a MB make ANY sense?

There really is no good reason for buying this notebook. It's length and height are very similar to the macbook only the width is slimmer.... does that little bit of extra thinness really make that much difference to most people who want a portable lap top? No doubt the thinner dimentions will make it even more delicate than the already unsubstantial macbook.The battery life is worse than that of the already marginal macbook battery life (dont' for a second believe apples estimate). The keyboard retains the macbook horrible chicklet style keys. The processor and hard drive aren't up to the level of the macbook which is significantly cheaper.

 

[GfPQqmcRKUvP]

Tonestly the features and such are fine. The pricing is about $400 too high. seriously, in what application would this over a MB make ANY sense?

It's simply not possible to lower it by $400. This is priced competitively for what it is. Miniaturization comes at a very heavy price, everyone should know this by now. Remember the whole iPod nano complainers? BuT fOr $50 mOrE U cOuLd LiKe gEt a FuLl iPoD, LolZ!

There really is no good reason for buying this notebook. It's length and height are very similar to the macbook only the width is slimmer.... does that little bit of extra thinness really make that much difference to most people who want a portable lap top? No doubt the thinner dimentions will make it even more delicate than the already unsubstantial macbook.The battery life is worse than that of the already marginal macbook battery life (dont' for a second believe apples estimate). The keyboard retains the macbook horrible chicklet style keys. The processor and hard drive aren't up to the level of the macbook which is significantly cheaper.

You registered today, and all of your posts are bashing the MBA. You really aren't important.

But in response to one of your "points", I type 110 words per minute on those little "chicklet" keys.

 

[sportsnut]

Congrats to all who have ordered the MacBook Air.


BTW

I sure wish all the bashers would tell us what kind of cheese they want with their whine

 

[nbs2]

I'd like to tell those who view the purchase as a waste of money about a friend of mine. He's a rather accomplished psych professor at a major university. He has lead authored 7 books, co-authored another 8. He give presentations on a fairly regular basis, and travels extensively. He's used Apple products for the last few years, but is by no means an expert.

Now, which of you is willing to tell him that his 6GB of text documents (plus another 10GB of materials) will not be accommodated by the tiny 80GB hard drive. I would like another person to please clarify the absurd FAA rules on spare Lithium batteries and why he shouldn't concern himself with getting as much battery life as possible from a single battery. That person can, or delegate another to, explain to him that every ounce and square inch doesn't matter when you travel for a week at a time on a single carry on.

Really. Please, be my guest.

 

[ddarko]

Can't you imagine not everyone shares your needs?

Jesus Christ, this happens every time Apple introduces a new product. It doesn't have every feature on somebody's checklist and instead of just saying this product doesn't fulfill my needs, they proclaim that the product is therefore a MISTAKE. How self-centered can you be? I've got no problem with anyone say that features XYZ are important to me, this product doesn't have them so I won't buy it. I respect that, I really do. But is it so hard to imagine that other people have different priorities?

Apple and Jobs surely have and will continue to make many many mistakes but the Macbook Air isn't one of them. I can EASILY see tons of people who will LOVE the Macbook Air's form factor and have that as the overriding consideration. All you people who are complaining about the small hard drive size or "underpowered" processor: can't you accept that the Macbook Air isn't a desktop replacement or even a substitute for a more-featured notebook? Its very design should clue you in that it's meant as a complement to someone who ALREADY owns another computer. You don't develop a feature like Remote Disc unless you think the buyer is going to have another computer.

Obviously, it would make no sense to buy this computer if you want it to store tons of porn/movies. But if you're going to use it on the road with email, word processing, Powerpoint, etc. or take it to class or the library: this is a GREAT machine. That's why all this talk about it being "underpowered" is ridiculous. Power/speed is not an absolute - whether a machine is "slow" depends entirely on what is being done with it. For Final Cut Pro or Photoshop editing, this machine probably won't be ideal. But for the tasks that it was obviously designed for? It'll be great.

One thing that still makes Apple distinctive is that it embraces product segmentation. It doesn't design every machine to be all things to all people. Almost every other industry does this - does anyone seriously criticize a Honda Accord for not doing 0-60 mph in under 4 seconds like a Ferrari? No b/c it's understood a Honda Accord isn't designed to do what a Ferrari does and vice versa - but there seem to be this stubborn mindset among a lot of computer users that every computer must be able to run every program with equal speed and dexterity. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Product segmentation is good because it brings more options to the table. Kudos to Apple.

 

[connectingrodd]

Jesus Christ, this happens every time Apple introduces a new product. It doesn't have every feature on somebody's checklist and instead of just saying this product doesn't fulfill my needs, they proclaim that the product is therefore a MISTAKE. How self-centered can you be? I've got no problem with anyone say that features XYZ are important to me, this product doesn't have them so I won't buy it. I respect that, I really do. But is it so hard to imagine that other people have different priorities?

Apple and Jobs surely have and will continue to make many many mistakes but the Macbook Air isn't one of them. I can EASILY see tons of people who will LOVE the Macbook Air's form factor and have that as the overriding consideration. All you people who are complaining about the small hard drive size or "underpowered" processor: can't you accept that the Macbook Air isn't a desktop replacement or even a substitute for a more-featured notebook? Its very design should clue you in that it's meant as a complement to someone who ALREADY owns another computer. You don't develop a feature like Remote Disc unless you think the buyer is going to have another computer.

Obviously, it would make no sense to buy this computer if you want it to store tons of porn/movies. But if you're going to use it on the road with email, word processing, Powerpoint, etc. or take it to class or the library: this is a GREAT machine. That's why all this talk about it being "underpowered" is ridiculous. Power/speed is not an absolute - whether a machine is "slow" depends entirely on what is being done with it. For Final Cut Pro or Photoshop editing, this machine probably won't be ideal. But for the tasks that it was obviously designed for? It'll be great.

One thing that still makes Apple distinctive is that it embraces product segmentation. It doesn't design every machine to be all things to all people. Almost every other industry does this - does anyone seriously criticize a Honda Accord for not doing 0-60 mph in under 4 seconds like a Ferrari? No b/c it's understood a Honda Accord isn't designed to do what a Ferrari does and vice versa - but there seem to be this stubborn mindset among a lot of computer users that every computer must be able to run every program with equal speed and dexterity. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Product segmentation is good because it brings more options to the table. Kudos to Apple.

Well if honda charged 600 grand for an accord you mind have a point.

It's simply not possible to lower it by $400. This is priced competitively for what it is. Miniaturization comes at a very heavy price, everyone should know this by now. Remember the whole iPod nano complainers? BuT fOr $50 mOrE U cOuLd LiKe gEt a FuLl iPoD, LolZ!



You registered today, and all of your posts are bashing the MBA. You really aren't important.

But in response to one of your "points", I type 110 words per minute on those little "chicklet" keys.

Actually I have been on this forum for a long time under another name. Thanks for coming out though.

btw your abilities with the macbook keyboard astounds me

 

[GfPQqmcRKUvP]

Well if honda charged 600 grand for an accord you mind have a point.

Except for the fact that charging that amount would be outpricing the competition by a ludicrous amount. You are forgetting that the MBA is priced fairly against the competition! Look at the Sony TZ, the MBA is, if not the steal of the century, at least fairly priced.

Actually I have been on this forum for a long time under another name. Thanks for coming out though.

O yes, so you just happened to re-register on MacRumors today under a new name where 100% of your posts are expressing your dissatisfaction with the MBA?

btw your abilities with the macbook keyboard astounds me

It's pretty much any keyboard that has some tactile feedback, which both my Powerbook 12" and the macbook have.

 

[connectingrodd]

Except for the fact that charging that amount would be outpricing the competition by a ludicrous amount. You are forgetting that the MBA is priced fairly against the competition! Look at the Sony TZ, the MBA is, if not the steal of the century, at least fairly priced.

the sony TZ is a superior machine in many respects, it is lighter, has much longer battery life, has as smaller screen ect. Also sony has a habit of overpricing their computers too so i wouldn't assume fair market prices from them. The fact remains that the macbook air is substandard in every respect except.... you guessed it thinness

O yes, so you just happened to re-register on MacRumors today under a new name where 100% of your posts are expressing your dissatisfaction with the MBA?

as a matter of fact yes


It's pretty much any keyboard that has some tactile feedback, which both my Powerbook 12" and the macbook have.

the macbook keyboard is a flawed design and once again is based only one looks not function

 

[jnc]

Well anyway, I forgot to mention that when you're a student with a textbook or two in your bag, an extra 2lb saving on the computer doesn't really make much difference.

This student disagrees.

I know there are lots of students who like to watch DVDs on their computer too, especially when staying away from home. MacBook Air can't cope with that unless you buy a break out box and really, that destroys the elegance.

I think anyone who's in the market for a MBA can rip a DVD themselves or obtain a torrent. I can't remember the last time I played a physical DVD.

 

[neiltc13]

The number of posts comprised purely of elitism is much higher here than I have ever seen on any other message board.

I come here and I constantly see messages like the one above posted by "nbs2" about his friend. If people are not boasting about their own job/income etc then they are trying to score points off each other by talking about people they know or their family.

I don't understand it. Why does this community attract this sort of attitude?

 

[heatmiser]

The number of posts comprised purely of elitism is much higher here than I have ever seen on any other message board.

I come here and I constantly see messages like the one above posted by "nbs2" about his friend. If people are not boasting about their own job/income etc then they are trying to score points off each other by talking about people they know or their family.

I don't understand it. Why does this community attract this sort of attitude?

It's part of the "cult of Mac". Some people honestly believe they become better people by virtue of the brand names they identify themselves with. Don't worry; the rest of us see them the way you do.

 

[MazingerZ]

Ordered one...should complement my current MBP pro when I travel.

 

[neiltc13]

Ordered one...should complement my current MBP pro when I travel.

So instead of carrying one machine, you're going to carry two, one of which will be vastly inferior to the other.

 

[MazingerZ]

So instead of carrying one machine, you're going to carry two, one of which will be vastly inferior to the other.

Nope, the MBP pro stays at home connected to my 30" Display.

 

[jnc]

Ordered one...should complement my current MBP pro when I travel.

Now that I don't understand. You'll travel with both computers?

Never mind - saw the post above. That's the home setup I wanted, but I went with a Mac Pro. I'll still get a MBP for on-the-go (Current MacBook will go to a family member).

Don't you think juggling two notebooks will get annoying? Personally I wish I could sync files to my MB like I can an iPod

 

[ddarko]

Well if honda charged 600 grand for an accord you mind have a point.

Wrong. It's got nothing to do with the price of the cars because even if the cars were in the same price range, you still wouldn't criticize a car because it doesn't do what another car can. No one says the Accord is flawed because it can't carry the youth soccer team like the the Dodge Caravan minivan, a similarly priced vehicle. You simply recognizes that Accord vs. Caravan is a senseless apples-to-oranges comparison.

The same goes for Macbook Air versus Macbook Pro versus Mac Pro. Now, I completely agree that price is a very legitimate criticism if you questioning whether the price is too high for what the Macbook Air is designed to achieve. On that basis, maybe the Macbook Air is too expensive, I think it's a valid criticism. But if you're saying the price is too high because you can get more speed, more space, more connectivity choices with another machine, I say that's a mistaken way to look at it.

 

[MazingerZ]

Don't you think juggling two notebooks will get annoying? Personally I wish I could sync files to my MB like I can an iPod

Yep, it will be. I'm own a software development company so I might look into some file syncing solution. Email is easy since we have an exchange server hosting all our emails.

Travelling over 200k miles a year from the US to Asia, my bag is now be getting 2lbs lighter. Along with my Kindle to hold my reading material, I've shed a lot of lbs this year.

 

[ditzy]

I've been reading through this thread and to be honest I'm kind of shocked at everyones reactions. Whatever makes a product worth buying in my opinion is all good. For some people I'm sure that the MBA is the best computer on the market for their needs. For others the other options are more their style. A person doesn't have to have more money than sense to want the MBA, and a person isn't tight because they wouldn't have one.

 

[zepharus]

Jesus Christ, this happens every time Apple introduces a new product. It doesn't have every feature on somebody's checklist and instead of just saying this product doesn't fulfill my needs, they proclaim that the product is therefore a MISTAKE. How self-centered can you be? I've got no problem with anyone say that features XYZ are important to me, this product doesn't have them so I won't buy it. I respect that, I really do. But is it so hard to imagine that other people have different priorities?

Apple and Jobs surely have and will continue to make many many mistakes but the Macbook Air isn't one of them. I can EASILY see tons of people who will LOVE the Macbook Air's form factor and have that as the overriding consideration. All you people who are complaining about the small hard drive size or "underpowered" processor: can't you accept that the Macbook Air isn't a desktop replacement or even a substitute for a more-featured notebook? Its very design should clue you in that it's meant as a complement to someone who ALREADY owns another computer. You don't develop a feature like Remote Disc unless you think the buyer is going to have another computer.

Obviously, it would make no sense to buy this computer if you want it to store tons of porn/movies. But if you're going to use it on the road with email, word processing, Powerpoint, etc. or take it to class or the library: this is a GREAT machine. That's why all this talk about it being "underpowered" is ridiculous. Power/speed is not an absolute - whether a machine is "slow" depends entirely on what is being done with it. For Final Cut Pro or Photoshop editing, this machine probably won't be ideal. But for the tasks that it was obviously designed for? It'll be great.

One thing that still makes Apple distinctive is that it embraces product segmentation. It doesn't design every machine to be all things to all people. Almost every other industry does this - does anyone seriously criticize a Honda Accord for not doing 0-60 mph in under 4 seconds like a Ferrari? No b/c it's understood a Honda Accord isn't designed to do what a Ferrari does and vice versa - but there seem to be this stubborn mindset among a lot of computer users that every computer must be able to run every program with equal speed and dexterity. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Product segmentation is good because it brings more options to the table. Kudos to Apple.

Is the product a Mistake? Well NO not to manfucture. What is a mistake is the price. The simple fact is people keep saying that that is the price you pay for small form factor and ultra portability.

This thing is at its thickest .75" .I love apple but the fact that they felt the need to taper this product implies that they really wanted to make it smaller than they physically could . So you are telling me that .75" vs 1" is such a substantial space saver that the premium justifies this? You MUST be kidding.

Just as thier ads show... I could stuff a macbook into an envelope too. guess what... The envelope will be .25" thicker...

 

[sk8ordie]

NEWSFLASH:


Small is expensive!!




In other news, water is wet.


Back to you, Steve.