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Macbook Air vs. Just leaked Thinkpad x300

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mashoutposse

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Dec 13, 2003
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NYCMacFan said:
Actually with an SSD, they will be comparably priced.

So IBM delivers a faster, smaller, lighter machine with more amenities and you just toss up your hands and say they are different and not subject to comparison. If you could install Leopard on the IBM would you still say so.
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The Lenovo is not smaller than the MBA. The MBA is half the size.
 
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Freyqq

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Dec 13, 2004
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gr8tfly said:
According to Gizmodo, the weight is up to 3.17 lbs. Which, I believe, puts it heavier than the MPA?

Guess we'll have to see what the final specs really are. Pretty hard to believe it contains more hardware, is thicker, but yet ends up lighter (without going to very exotic materials).

No matter what, the aesthetics of the MPA make it hard to directly compare. I think I speak for others in saying the design itself is a feature. So, even if they do have the same specs and price, the MPA would have more value to many customers.
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yes.. .17 extra lbs vs having a much more powerful system

lets see.....
 
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mashoutposse

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Dec 13, 2003
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Freyqq said:
yes.. .17 extra lbs vs having a much more powerful system

lets see.....
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...and double the size by volume. Additionally, it's not even "much more powerful" (MBA's 1.6/1.8GHz full voltage CPU vs. Lenovo's 2.0GHz LV processor)

This Lenovo is much closer in size to the MacBook than to the MBA.
 
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kuwisdelu

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Jan 13, 2008
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Quillz said:
The Thinkpad is better in nearly every way. Hopefully the second gen MacBook Air will be similar to this. Of course, it will be funny to hear Jobs try to explain why they were "wrong" about omitting the optical drive.
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That optical drive thing won't happen. It would be like adding a floppy drive to the 2nd gen iMac because it was a "mistake" to not have one in the first place. The lack of an optical drive is part of the MacBook Air's design, and it's no less a flaw than the iMac's lacking a floppy drive was a flaw. Maybe you use your optical drive everywhere, but there were a lot of us who, when Steve announced the lack of an optical drive, were somewhat taken aback at first, but then thought "hey...I guess I DON'T use my optical drive all that much anyway...hmm..."

There are even those of us who never have more than one thing plugged into our USB ports at once, and don't even know what 3G is. *GASP* I know. Amazing, isn't it? That some of us have different needs and wants in a computer?

Quillz said:
When your only counter argument is lame trolling, it's best to just not post.
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I don't think he was posting a "counter argument," merely an opinion. For some people, not running OS X is a deal breaker. I know it would be for me. At the end of the day, sacrificing OS X wouldn't be something I'd be willing to do, even if I can run Linux instead.

If the X300 turns out to really have those specs, I'll be quite impressed by the hardware. I'm certainly not denying that. I'm not saying either is better than the other, here, just trying to remind everybody that "better" is a often a matter of differing needs and wants with computers like these, and not just hardware specs and number of ports.
 
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clevin

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butterfly0fdoom

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Has anyone LOOKED at that internals diagram for this purported X300 (even the name seems odd)? Do optical drives that thin even exist? Where's the SSD? The gray thing under the trackpad? That's a bit on the small side, even for a 1.8" drive, don't you think? And the battery, that looks to be the width and length of the iBook's battery and, given the thickness, probably 1/3 the thickness of the iBook's battery, and you're telling me this can get 4 hours of battery life? The first picture certainly looks real, but the specs, even for Lenovo, seem rather unrealistic.

I'm not a Lenovo hater by any means. If I didn't have such a preference to the Mac platform, I would have gotten a T60 instead of a MacBook (I switched from a T42 to an iBook when Windows crapped out on me, and my family's had at least 5 other ThinkPads that have seen more abuse than a MacBook could handle, probably). But even then, it just doesn't seem realistic.
 
clevin

clevin

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Aug 6, 2006
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mashoutposse said:
Volume:

Lenovo X300 - 92 in^3
MacBook Air - 53 in^3

The MBA is heavier due to the use of metals versus plastics.
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oh you didn't, tell me how you calculated it.

tell me you do understand this MBA is different than that simply illustration, and from "0.16" to 0.76" isn't a smooth gradient at all?

MBA's volume is more like ~76in^3.
x300 is ~93 in^3
MB is ~123in^3

That means x300 is closer to MBA in volume, not MB.
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Gurutech

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If I had to choose a Windows laptop, I'd go with Lenovo. Although it's no longer IBM, they still make one of the best Windows laptops...

If you want Mac OSX, then no option.
 
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Kaiser Phoenix

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Are people forgetting that this thinkpad, no matter how wonderful it is, CANT run OSX????

Isnt that the whole point of using Apple products? Apple laptops were never top of the line or cutting edge but it had OSX, thats what matters!!!

Ofcourse if i could run OSX on this thinkpad, i will jump on it anyday, but until that day comes, I will use a MBA.
 
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Kaiser Phoenix

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lost eden said:
There's no denying that nearly all of Apple's products suffer in terms of functionality just so they can look pretty & the MBA is the prime example of this. Apple are more concerned with their products being visually appealing than highly functional, because this is their market; pretentious style-concious people who are more concerned with their stylish image than whether their computer is actually any use as a computer. In this regard, Apple pull it off very well.
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Wait wait wait, pretentious style-concious people who are more concerned with image????

Come on OSX is faaaaaaarrr more useful and productive, i can do so much with very little in terms of hardware with OSX.

What mattters is not Specs but Software in my opinion.
 
Agathon

Agathon

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Jan 19, 2004
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lost eden said:
With regards to all of the comments about the ThinkPad being ugly, you have to appreciate the important facts;

Apple design: form over function
IBM design: function over form
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Actually, you are completely wrong. This post demonstrates that you do not understand Apple's design philosophy at all. How many times do they have to say that function = form before some people will finally get it.
 
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