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Horus

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...i mean, cd2 is like a 90s chip processor, they could have done it better.

lol

Back then, Arrandale chips had worse GPU than the current HD 3000, that's why the chose a Core2Duo over an Arrandale.
 

SR71

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Jan 12, 2011
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Samsung states that duralumin on the series 9 is twice as strong as aluminium on the MBA. I think this is a factor worth considering...

Only the top lid is duralumin. Reviewers have said the bottom is plastic, but Samsung says it's powder coated aluminum.
 

Legion93

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Apr 6, 2011
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Only the top lid is duralumin. Reviewers have said the bottom is plastic, but Samsung says it's powder coated aluminum.

Samsung claims everything, but in reality most are all false, for example the battery life on the series 9 - many reviewers did not manage to gain 7 hours on it, as Samsung claimed that it can reach 7 hours maximum. MBA wins again :d
 

SR71

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Samsung claims everything, but in reality most are all false, for example the battery life on the series 9 - many reviewers did not manage to gain 7 hours on it, as Samsung claimed that it can reach 7 hours maximum. MBA wins again :d

Yep, I mentioned that in one of my earlier posts. ;)

I've gotten 9 hours on my 13" MBA. ^_^
 

SR71

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The Samsung comes with a 3 year warranty, if that is a plus.

That is a plus for Samsung, but Apple also get's a plus for having amazing customer service and actual stores that you can walk into to get help on the spot, which if you ask me, is much better than a 3 year warranty that probably isn't that great (although I don't know Samsung to well when it comes to customer service, but I have heard it isn't great).
 

AppleScruff1

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Feb 10, 2011
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That is a plus for Samsung, but Apple also get's a plus for having amazing customer service and actual stores that you can walk into to get help on the spot, which if you ask me, is much better than a 3 year warranty that probably isn't that great (although I don't know Samsung to well when it comes to customer service, but I have heard it isn't great).

Yea, I don't think Samsung can come close to Apple customer service. The nice part about Apple is having a store to go to get help instead of shipping to a service center etc. Even if Samsung has great customer service, they don't have the stores like Apple does.
 

Cerano

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Oct 28, 2010
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really depends on the country. apple support totally sucks in my country. i would trust samsung more and there isnt an apple genius bar/ store here
 

bloodycape

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Jun 18, 2005
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This is one of these topics that has been beaten to death. Both have their pros and cons. The Samsung has a better CPU but loses in GPU power. It also has only 128GB SSD and is actually more expensive than MBA.

You won't be getting better graphics since Intel HD 3000 sucks.

Link the gpu info because most of the stuff I have read said that the gpu are pretty close to each other in real world usage and stuff. And I think the Samsung actually comes with the intel HD 2000(maybe it was a lower clocked HD 3000) as it is a LV cpu.
 

thunng8

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Link the gpu info because most of the stuff I have read said that the gpu are pretty close to each other in real world usage and stuff. And I think the Samsung actually comes with the intel HD 2000(maybe it was a lower clocked HD 3000) as it is a LV cpu.

There are links in many different threads. Bottom line... the Samsung's ULV Sandy Bridge GPU is less than half the speed of the 320M in the Macbook Air.

e.g.
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/samsung-series-9.aspx?page=3
http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1740,iid=291739,00.asp

3DMark is less than half of the Air (2188 vs 4611)

WOW ran at a miserable 14fps at 1366x768 res compared to the Air that runs at 53fps at 1440x900. Battery life is worse as well.

Lost Planet also, about 1/3 the speed of the macBook Air
 

bloodycape

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There are links in many different threads. Bottom line... the Samsung's ULV Sandy Bridge GPU is less than half the speed of the 320M in the Macbook Air.

e.g.
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/samsung-series-9.aspx?page=3
http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1740,iid=291739,00.asp

3DMark is less than half of the Air (2188 vs 4611)

WOW ran at a miserable 14fps at 1366x768 res compared to the Air that runs at 53fps at 1440x900. Battery life is worse as well.

Lost Planet also, about 1/3 the speed of the macBook Air

Maybe the test I saw was for the standard gpu in the i core models. Either way the series 9 doesn't really interest me.
 

solowmodel

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Jan 11, 2011
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Samsung states that duralumin on the series 9 is twice as strong as aluminium on the MBA. I think this is a factor worth considering...

How so? To be fair, more durability is generally better...but how many times have you had problems with the aluminium structure of Apple's current laptops?
 

gwsat

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Apr 12, 2008
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https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1119174/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1120865/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1119174/

This is one of these topics that has been beaten to death. Both have their pros and cons. The Samsung has a better CPU but loses in GPU power. It also has only 128GB SSD and is actually more expensive than MBA.
I agree. I usually don't post to threads that have been as over discussed as this one and do so now only to say you are right.

Since I am here, I will add that comparisons between Windows machines and Macs make my eyes glaze over; I have no interest in being limited to a Windows only environment. Before anybody says "Hackintosh" let me also add that I am equally uninterested in a kludgy hack to let a Windows machine run OS X, sort of. I routinely run a couple of Windows apps on my MBA thanks to VMware Fusion, so a dedicated Windows machine of any sort wouldn't give me anything I don't already have.
 

entatlrg

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Mar 2, 2009
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Samsung is junk compared to the MacBook Air ... a poor cheaply made copy.

Read all the reviews out there, it's common knowledge now.

When has a knock off ever been better than the Apple original? So far, never.
 

Twe Foju

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Dec 20, 2007
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WOW ran at a miserable 14fps at 1366x768 res compared to the Air that runs at 53fps at 1440x900. Battery life is worse as well.
Do you have the video / source for the Samsung 9 playing WoW?

because i have searched countless times in Youtube for Samsung 9 gaming, but there is none

not that i dont believe you, i just want to see how the fps is gaming on the Samsung 9
 

mrsir2009

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Sep 17, 2009
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Samsung states that duralumin on the series 9 is twice as strong as aluminium on the MBA. I think this is a factor worth considering...

The alu build of the MBA and MBP is rock solid. If Samsung made something twice as strong, the extra strength doesn't matter. Are you going to buy a computer just so that it'll survive if you drop it out of a 3 story window or run over it in a truck?

The air is by far strong enough for everyday life.
 

thunng8

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Twe Foju said:
WOW ran at a miserable 14fps at 1366x768 res compared to the Air that runs at 53fps at 1440x900. Battery life is worse as well.
Do you have the video / source for the Samsung 9 playing WoW?

because i have searched countless times in Youtube for Samsung 9 gaming, but there is none

not that i dont believe you, i just want to see how the fps is gaming on the Samsung 9

The source is the review which I linked which tested WOW.
 

stroked

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I'm glad Apple has some stiff competition, hardware wise. I just wish there was more competition with OSs. I know there is Lenox, but I'm talking about something anyone can use.
 

Legion93

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I'm glad Apple has some stiff competition, hardware wise. I just wish there was more competition with OSs. I know there is Lenox, but I'm talking about something anyone can use.

You know most of Apple's hardware is supplied and manufactured by third party companies, just like Samsung or Toshiba, to name a but a few. Apple's so-called A5 chip is manufactured by Samsung (well, around 40%) and yet Apple has the gut to tell consumers "don't worry about the hardware, just feel the experience". That's right, try to hide the actual supplier of that particular hardware part and pass it off to customers with little knowledge. If Apple breaks relationships with Samsung, in this case trying to rival off the MBA with the series 9, they will also lose a company that supplies almost half of their hardware parts.

I agree with you, maybe it's time for a new OS to be put forward?
 

BENJMNS

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Dec 28, 2005
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for those that don't make the os a religious battle, check out the x220 by lenovo. im seriously tempted to go back to windows 7. i love the x2 series.
 

SR71

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Jan 12, 2011
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You know most of Apple's hardware is supplied and manufactured by third party companies, just like Samsung or Toshiba, to name a but a few. Apple's so-called A5 chip is manufactured by Samsung (well, around 40%) and yet Apple has the gut to tell consumers "don't worry about the hardware, just feel the experience". That's right, try to hide the actual supplier of that particular hardware part and pass it off to customers with little knowledge. If Apple breaks relationships with Samsung, in this case trying to rival off the MBA with the series 9, they will also lose a company that supplies almost half of their hardware parts.

I agree with you, maybe it's time for a new OS to be put forward?

See, but what you didn't think of was that in turn, Samsung would be losing it's second biggest customer. Samsung would lose billions, so I'm thinking that they aren't just going to kick Apple out of their list of customers. So, now the question is: what will happen next? :)
 
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