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daneoni

macrumors G4
Mar 24, 2006
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I'd be polite but firm. My university is somewhat friendly to macs in that they'll help you most of the time for basic stuff but no lecturer ever told me macs break networks.

All i hear is oh, ah, pretty, cool, sleek, sexy...you get the picture:cool:
 

SpookTheHamster

macrumors 65816
Nov 7, 2004
1,495
8
London
When signing up for the WiFi network at my university, you have to fill out a whole load of stuff about the computer. Under "Operating system" I put "Mac OS 10.4 Tiger" and under "Anti-virus software (required)" I put "Mac OS 10.4 Tiger"
 

isleofjib

macrumors regular
Jan 21, 2007
191
0
CT
my ex-gf is a teacher and when she first started, their IT person told her she couldn't hook her macbook up to the network because it was a security risk for the network. :rolleyes: we both laughed about it for a several days. :D
 

smueboy

macrumors 6502a
Oct 30, 2006
778
1
Oz
It's downright scary that people are so ignorant.

What will happen when people start using VM software to run OS X on Windoze machines?

the mind boggles...
 

Nermal

Moderator
Staff member
Dec 7, 2002
21,020
4,598
New Zealand
I chuckle a little bit and keep on working, but she was serious! And she didn't just make me turn AirPort off- she made me put it away!!! :mad:

At that point I would have left the room and gone to the library or somewhere to continue working.

Yea really I hate when people say you cant do this because you're on a mac.

Ugh, I once went to a LAN party, and there was a DHCP server assigning IP addresses. One of the other attendees had his IP set to static (and the DHCP server wasn't aware of this), so the server assigned the same address to me. Apparently it was still my Mac's fault :rolleyes:
 

mkrishnan

Moderator emeritus
Jan 9, 2004
29,776
15
Grand Rapids, MI, USA
Ugh, I once went to a LAN party, and there was a DHCP server assigning IP addresses. One of the other attendees had his IP set to static (and the DHCP server wasn't aware of this), so the server assigned the same address to me.

It kind of amazes me that DHCP is not designed to be robust with respect to this. Granted that there are probably reasons to occasionally want two MAC addresses to share an IP, it's the exception and not the rule. I'm surprised DHCP isn't smart enough to know that the IP is in use, even if it did not pick it.
 

SpaceJello

macrumors 6502
Dec 2, 2006
446
101
Woh! I never really thought that people can be really that clueless. I am so glad that I go to a school where if you have a PC, people will look at you funny, unless of course you are stuck in the administration departments.

I would definitely bring that up with the Tech support of the school or something and get this cleared out. Obviously the teacher isn't getting the right training.
 

Krevnik

macrumors 601
Sep 8, 2003
4,101
1,312
Any wifi equipped computer can do this if the mode you have the wifi in is what's labelled as 'infrastructure'.

ie. you can set up two machines with wifi to communicate to each other without any access points nearby.

Maybe she was confusing that with a previous experience of a mac in that mode.

Uhm... I think you are confused a bit on this... First, the mode you are thinking about is "Ad-Hoc", which Apple calls "Computer-to-Computer" networking. Infrastructure is when you have the access point hooked up to the physical network, and computers connect to it.

Secondly, I find it a bit far fetched that this scenario would exist. Ad-Hoc is /very/ rarely used. I have tried Ad-Hoc /once/ in the past 6-7 years. A simpler, and more plausible explination would be that this teacher (like many who claim to know enough about technology to teach it), doesn't know what the fark wireless actually is, or that Mac wireless hardware is the same stuff found everywhere else.

I mean, this sort of thing reminds me of a networking teacher I had in college. I think I showed her up one too many times in class, because I got my final grade back at a D-, when the calculated grade (based on her own formula) should have been a B-/C+... and even then it was only that low because not showing work on how you got an IP address + net mask would get you a zero on the whole assignment.
 

SkyBell

macrumors 604
Sep 7, 2006
6,606
226
Texas, unfortunately.
Its surprising, yet not so surprising that people are this ignorant. Its been going on for years.


If this was your first time there, you should ask her how many times the network has crashed before. When she tells you the number, tell her that's how many times your Mac has not crashed the network. :)
 

likeavaliant

macrumors regular
Oct 14, 2006
155
0
i have an english class where dell laptops are provided and there is a lot of online work to be done. the first day i asked the teacher if could just use my mac. she told me that i was more than welcome to and that she is a mac user herself.

when it came time to access the internet, not one of the dells would work, but my mac sure connected! we've met about 3 times so far this semester, and while all the other students are trouble shooting and trying to access the internet, i sit there browsing macrumors...
 

ktbubster

macrumors 6502a
Jan 20, 2007
794
1
US
My University caters to Macs...they have a "Custom Apple Store" inside!

And i dont have to install the VPN Client (Cisco Clean Access) to access the internet, nor do I have to use an anti-virus program that PCs have to install.

MINE TOO! :) We have a special mac lab just in our union and then another apple store down the street :-D I love the signs in all the dorms reminding people to install antivirus software with the little * and the "unless you are running mac os or linux" it makes me smile :-D
 

xPismo

macrumors 6502a
Nov 21, 2005
675
0
California.
Oh My & Gawd.

Am I the only one who would tell her off? I'd look at changing schools if that happened to me. Gah, I *hate* when someone in the school environment who knows nothing about an issue insists on making policy.

Man I would so stick it to her. Heck I'd report it. Grrrrrr.


(well yes its been a bad day actually... but still)
 

laidbackliam

macrumors 6502
Feb 1, 2006
330
0
i end up helping people in my computer lab at school that use macs, as the people that work in the lab can't even close a program. one guy told me there is no file system on a mac, just the dock, which can get annoying.

this guy is a computer science major. HOW?!
 

Pressure

macrumors 603
May 30, 2006
5,182
1,546
Denmark
My University caters to Macs...they have a "Custom Apple Store" inside!

And i dont have to install the VPN Client (Cisco Clean Access) to access the internet, nor do I have to use an anti-virus program that PCs have to install.

How do you get around not using the VPN Client?
 

e12a

macrumors 68000
Oct 28, 2006
1,881
0
How do you get around not using the VPN Client?

Easy. Cisco Clean Access is only for Windows.

Funny thing is, I dont have to install it on my Bootcamp Windows installation either. I guess my university associates IPs with OSes (the network detects what OS you're using, and if it's Windows on a non Apple it directs you to a site with CCA (if not installed already)...otherwise you just log in with your student id and pass on an online log-in.)

edit: apparently CCA is also discontinued.
 

daneoni

macrumors G4
Mar 24, 2006
11,844
1,579
My University caters to Macs...they have a "Custom Apple Store" inside!

And i dont have to install the VPN Client (Cisco Clean Access) to access the internet, nor do I have to use an anti-virus program that PCs have to install.

Same here, everything i use is in-built to OS X. So i just have to Name the VPN configuration and enter my username and password. Same for internet/Wi-Fi access, just enter username and password and i'm good to go. No third party software whatsoever.

My windows counterparts had to install some software and do some hacking and everyone had to visit the IT guy so do some setup before they could access the network even though this University swears by XP Pro. Some even had to buy External Wi-Fi cards because their in-built ones were incompatible apparently.

Long live the Macintosh.
 

holamiamigos

macrumors 6502a
Aug 10, 2006
541
0
My University caters to Macs...they have a "Custom Apple Store" inside!

And i dont have to install the VPN Client (Cisco Clean Access) to access the internet, nor do I have to use an anti-virus program that PCs have to install.

so lucky
 

BlackMax

macrumors 6502a
Jan 14, 2007
901
0
North Carolina
She tells me that I can't use my macbook over the schools WiFi network because it's a Mac and it might disrupt the connection to the other computers and cause the network to fail... :confused:

I hope she is not a computer science instructor, otherwise you need to switch schools. WiFi standards are just that, WiFi standards, and it doesn't matter if you connect with a PC, Mac or your Internet ready refrigerator, they all use the same standards and for the most part the same equipment (wireless chipsets) at the hardware level. You should ask her to explain the exact technical process by which this disruption might occur. :p
 
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