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MacBook Pro with the new M2 ULTRA?

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How long do we need to wait for the new MacBook Pro with the new M2 ULTRA?
Does it sound good?
M2 Ultra
24-Core CPU
76-Core GPU
32-Core Neural Engine
192 GB RAM
800GB/s memory bandwidth
16 TB SSD
Two video decode engines
Four video encode engines
Four ProRes encode and decode engines
Better Video, HDR 10+, ...
Better Audio, MP4, ...
Better Speaker
20-inch
8K Camera
1xHDMI 2.1
1xDisplayPort 2.1
1xSD Express 8.0
1x10Gb Ethernet port
3xThunderbolt 5
2xUSB-A
1xUSB-B
1xUSB mini
1xUSB micro
1xUSB micro B
Wifi 7
Bluetooth 5.4
5G+
Face ID
Touch ID
OLED
3000 nits brightness
refresh rates up to 360Hz @ 4K
8K @ 120Hz
Keyboard with additional separate F1 to F12 keys and additional Touch Bar
Better MacBook Pro case
Best high-end thermal compound
Best heatsinks
Improved rotation speed of the fans
Improved fan noise
Improve airflow of the fans
...
 
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Appletoni said:
How long do we need to wait for the new MacBook Pro with the new M2 ULTRA?
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Infinity and beyond - its not happening.

Too expensive, too hot, too much power being consumed. Nearly every metric that Apple uses to market their MBP line is negatively impacted by an ultra in laptop form.
 
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Of course the M3 Ultra 3nm will be much better with support of:
pext
sse
mmx
sse2
ssse3
sse41
avx2
avxvnni
avx512
vnni256
vnni512
ARMv9
hyperthreading
 
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Troll thread, of course, anyway, they are removing the Mac Studio from the line to leave the ultra for the Mac Pro only and they do a MacBook with it? LOL
 
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Troll thread, of course, anyway, they are removing the Mac Studio from the line to leave the ultra for the Mac Pro only and they do a MacBook with it? LOL
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It would probably have fans as loud as an intel i9 MBP, and I wonder how they would wedge that chip into that chassis, even not counting the cooling for it!
 
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bobcomer said:
It would probably have fans as loud as an intel i9 MBP, and I wonder how they would wedge that chip into that chassis, even not counting the cooling for it!
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There's no way they wouldn't have to create an even bigger laptop with at least twice (or thrice?) the thickness just to cool that thing effectively.
 
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Given the size of the heatsink used in the Mac Studio for the M1 Ultra, how would you even begin to try to fit one into a laptop?

Ultra Heatsink.png
 
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Given the size of the heatsink used in the Mac Studio for the M1 Ultra, how would you even begin to try to fit one into a laptop?

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You don't. The M1 Ultra inside a 16" MBP would be slightly better than the old Intel 16" MBPs in terms of thermals and noise. But you'd hear the fans for sure. M1 Ultra reaches 114w. Old Intel MBPs were also around that. But M1 Ultra has better idle power. So Apple could put the M1 Ultra in a MBP 16" if it will tolerate fans spinning up really high and throttling during workloads.
 
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senttoschool said:
You don't. The M1 Ultra inside a 16" MBP would be slightly better than the old Intel 16" MBPs in terms of thermals and noise. But you'd hear the fans for sure. M1 Ultra reaches 114w. Old Intel MBPs were also around that. But M1 Ultra has better idle power. So Apple could put the M1 Ultra in a MBP 16" if it will tolerate fans spinning up really high and throttling during workloads.
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According to Apple the Ultra reaches 215W in the Studio.
 
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That is for the entire Mac Studio. I think the M1 Ultra probably consume a lot less than 215W when going all out.
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I guess. The max version uses up 115W at peak while an MBP is ~90W iirc so I think an Ultra in a laptop will definitely be meaningfully over 114W.
 
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Digitalguy said:
Troll thread, of course, anyway, they are removing the Mac Studio from the line to leave the ultra for the Mac Pro only and they do a MacBook with it? LOL
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Is that the reason why they released a new Mac Studio with new M2 Ultra chip?
They are still working on an Extrem chip for the Mac Pro only.
 
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bobcomer said:
It would probably have fans as loud as an intel i9 MBP, and I wonder how they would wedge that chip into that chassis, even not counting the cooling for it!
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That's not a problem, because it will be the M3 Ultra chip and not the M2 Ultra.
 
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thenewperson said:
There's no way they wouldn't have to create an even bigger laptop with at least twice (or thrice?) the thickness just to cool that thing effectively.
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We will see 14-inch iPad Pro with M3 chip and 16-inch iPad Ultra with M3 Pro / M3 Max chip.
Due you still believe that it's impossible for Apple to release a MacBook with M3 Ultra chip?
I mean we are talking about Apple and I don't mean the red ones.
 
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