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heretiq

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Jan 31, 2014
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How long do we need to wait for the new MacBook Pro with the new M2 ULTRA?
Does it sound good?
M2 Ultra
24-Core CPU
76-Core GPU
32-Core Neural Engine
192 GB RAM
800GB/s memory bandwidth
16 TB SSD
Two video decode engines
Four video encode engines
Four ProRes encode and decode engines
Better Video, HDR 10+, ...
Better Audio, MP4, ...
Better Speaker
20-inch
8K Camera
1xHDMI 2.1
1xDisplayPort 2.1
1xSD Express 8.0
1x10Gb Ethernet port
3xThunderbolt 5
2xUSB-A
1xUSB-B
1xUSB mini
1xUSB micro
1xUSB micro B
Wifi 7
Bluetooth 5.4
5G+
Face ID
Touch ID
OLED
3000 nits brightness
refresh rates up to 360Hz @ 4K
8K @ 120Hz
Keyboard with additional separate F1 to F12 keys and additional Touch Bar
Better MacBook Pro case
Best high-end thermal compound
Best heatsinks
Improved rotation speed of the fans
Improved fan noise
Improve airflow of the fans
...
With no CF ports this thing is DOA. 😏
 

Appletoni

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Mar 26, 2021
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...because that laptop has a smaller battery? You know you can google things?
This answer doesn't make much sense. Look our discussion before:

The 16" is also exactly at the limit of what is allowed for air travel, the battery comes in at 99.6Wh. There is no way to make up for a decrease in battery life since the battery size cannot be increased. The entire design is based around fitting the biggest possible battery.
How does it come that other people do air travel with
and the battery Wh. and size is not a problem?

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-It has 18-inch, so 16-inch has nothing to do with air travel limit.
-There are airlines which allow 5x to 20x batteries with 99.9 Wh. Sounds to me like no problem if someone is using a MacBook with four Extreme chips inside.
-Others allow external battery with up to 160 Wh. in hand baggage. You only need to take it out from your laptop before.
-Some airlines needs to be asked if it is okay for them if you take the 160 Wh. with you.
 

deconstruct60

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Mar 10, 2009
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But the problem if someone needs a laptop is:
-M1 ULTRA isn't inside.
-They could buy the M1 MAX
-But they need to wait every time 2 years = 10 years in total for M6 MAX, until they will get the performance of the M1 ULTRA.
-Why should someone wait 10 years if they can buy directly a laptop with i9-13980HX + RTX 4090?


How many "someones" is that?

The mobile RTX 4090 is really an underclocked 4080. The market selling into is the fringe of the fringe where Nvidia blowing smoking up their butts labeling it a 4090 ( when it isn't) is 'just fine'. About as much 'lust' factor selling these system as anything sensible from normal laptop metrics. Apple really isn't out to sell everything to everybody.

These 18" ( mostly plastic body ) laptops you have linked in a flurry really are not going to do as well as aircraft grade aluminum chassis when it comes to portability. Apple's solution will be heavier than these. As others have pointed out there are caps on battery size if portability is suppose to span riding in an airplane. So operating lifetime is sagging.

At some point of sagging battery life and 8-10 lbs of laptop the 8 lbs studio is about just as luggable if only going to use it on a 'plugged in' desktop location after transport. ( is there is a display docking station at either end of the desktop-to-desktop journey then the keyboard , mouse , monitor doesn't really 'have to' move for a substantive number of people. )


The other major flaw here is the concept of "Apple has to sell it to me , right now or it is a fail.". If Apple doesn't sell to certain people now , but sells to more folks in the future ... that is just fine. Short term it isn't like they are broke and can barely pay the bills. Incrementally, growing the Mac product line into future areas they don't tap now is not a 'bad thing' . Apple doesn't have to have exactly the same set of customers in 2024 as they did in 2009.

Usually there is a flurry of "but there will be a 6090/7090/8090 in the future ... blah blah. What matters more is what user's workloads are. There is a narrowing subset of users for which moving to those future jumps will be enitrely. However, there will be another sizable subset for which it does not.

There are still more folks on the planet that do not have a classic PC (laptop or desktop) than do. The group of max lustful tech fanatics that churn their laptops chasing the latest shiny "max power consuming laptop GPU" is relatively stagnant. It isn't a high growth market. They are sales, but it isn't moving in an expansive way.


Odds are pretty low that Apple is going to do a "luggable , desktop placement" laptop anytime in the future. Stuff bigger and heavier than the old legacy MBP 17" .... probably not. An more affordable, lightweight 15" model will likely sell an order of magnitude more units per year with zero tweaks to the SoC design constraints the other laptops are using.
 

mcnallym

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Where is the MacBook M3 ULTRA?
Well as no M3 Ultra SoC yet then kind of hard.

Apple have a VERY WELL identified pattern now

Launch Mx series on the BIG Sellers ie MBA, MBP
Once demand out add the Studio with the Ultra SoC.

With M2 then they even entirely skipped the iMac.

Didn't even update the Mini either even though in theory the M3 and M3 Pro are out for it now.

Studio and Pro will see the launch of the Ultra SoC ONCE the demand in MBP for M3 Gen slows.

Same answers for an M3 Ultra Macbook are going to be the same answers as the current 3 pages
 
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