Whoa. So *that's* what happened to Creative Computers! I always wondered. They were awesome way back when.
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Whoa. So *that's* what happened to Creative Computers! I always wondered. They were awesome way back when.
Lol, forget that. Not even close. I guess I just got fed up with the stupidity of your statement and your whining, and thought, well, might as well link it for people that actually would care to read it.
And no, you really just suck at research, as well as thinking logically; What were your search parameters? I wasn't sure what to search for exactly. It was a while ago that I read the article. However, all that was need was a simple "Mac vs HP Workstation" - Having said that, anyone should have been able to infer that was all that needed to be sought for.
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Good to know! I figured they were dependable, given Dreamworks Animations uses more or less 100% HP workstations for their workflows. RIGHT ON HP. Good to know that there's an alternative if Apple ever doesn't work out. I just wish I had a reason to invest in an HP workstation - the Z800's are very affordable these days and offer a lot for the money.
Blender eh? How widely used is it? I know there's some pretty impressive work that's been done with it with awesome results, but is it used professionally at all? Or as much as other solutions? And "Ps" - as in Photoshop I'm guessing, meaning you dual boot into Windows, as well? Or do you somehow have it running with WINE or a translation layer under Linux?
Curious too why you choose Arch? I don't know TOO much about Linux distros; more than the average person, but not as much as to recommend this or that as much as I would like.
LOL! Nice attempt at spin. The intent of my ONE post was to get you to post a reference. You did just that. Spin it any way you want but you did exactly what I had set out to get you to do.
Good job, you got me all figured out. :roll eyes:
So you lie to get what you want? REALLY? Pathetic. Instead of contributing absolutely nothing to this conversation, why don't you try and stop trolling, and contribute something useful?
Not going toy reply to your nonsense again, unless you have something relevant to say.
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No. I'm surprised you would put up a graphic that eluded to the HP being cheaper than the MP.
But the HP Z can be much cheaper than the MP6,1 - that's the truth. It can also be much more powerful (and much more expensive).
Not everyone needs dual GPUs, or even a single GPU. (What if you plan to transfer your new GTX980 to the HP?) How many Apple MP6,1 buyers would love to get an MP6,1 with 4 GiB - so they can load it with cheaper 3rd party memory?
Just because comparable systems from HP and Apple are often similar in price, doesn't mean that you can't save some money with the HP if you need something less than a "comparable" system.
And of course, be sure to:
- Add Applecare to match the HP warranty (at least in years, but not in convenience)
- Include a 4 bay to 10 bay T-Bolt2 disk enclosure to match the internal slots of the HP
- Actually shop around for the HP instead of adding up list prices, since they're often on sale or available with discounts. (Right now Newegg has the $1260 Z420 at $1110 - that $150 savings would cover a GTX 750 Ti 640 CUDA core 2 GiB Maxwell card.)
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I don't see how either HP Workstations you listed would be a fair comparison ( Either in price and/or performance ) considering neither have any graphic cards.
What do you mean neither have any graphics cards? Are you referring to his specific comparison? Or in general?
According to the models and prices given, neither HP Workstations have graphic cards installed. Except at higher price points ( Around $2500-$3000 more )
Jeez guys it's not that big of a deal. Apple offers you the graphics cards they want while HP lets you buy the graphics card you want.
And by that token you can't compare an MP6,1 with a dual-socket 840 - since the MP6,1 only has a single socket and only four DIMM slots.
Thank you - that's exactly the point.
Did you miss the "starting at" on the graphic? The MP6,1 specs shown clearly didn't match the price shown.
Anybody could sell a barebones kit and call it cheaper. But unless we have a basic reference point its all relative.
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I think they oppose to your false description of the chart, you claim 3 things about the chart, all of which are false:
The comparison you showed has neither.
Nope, the comparison doesn't show that at all. You claim that one system is priced like the MP6,1 but is more powerful. The price is somewhat similar but the comparison says nothing about the specification of the system at the starting price. The HP machine CAN be configured to be more powerful than the MP6,1. The comparison doesn't show the performance per dollar at all so claiming that one system is more powerful for the same price based on the comparison chart is false.
Again, the comparison chart doesn't show that at all. Yes it shows that the MAX config is closer to the Mac Pro but the comparison chart doesn't show at which given price that config has; so claiming that one machine is cheaper but with similar specs is false.
To make your claims work we need to know the price for any given configuration, the comparison chart tells us nothing about that. Your comparison price by price for the cheapest possible configuration at the same time as you pair together the machines max configuration and making claims based on those pairing is not what i would call a "fair comparison", also:
Exacly, so why are you comparing them spec by spec and then claiming one is cheaper or more powerful than the other when the chart doesn't give that info since the prices are for the entry level machines and not the given specs. You can't group them together based on max spec and then make assumptions based on the entry level price. And you can't group them together by entry level price and then comparing the max specs.
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Use the barebones kit as the reference.
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The comparison chart is meaningless to compare similar configurations. What it does show is the starting prices for each system and (some of) their maximum configurations. It makes no attempt to compare price for any given configuration.
Yes, thats what i said in my entire post. So the person i quoted CANT claim that one computer has the same spec but is cheaper, or same price but more powerful. The chart doesn't give any such info to make such a claim.
Great, now I'm paying for a non functioning build it myself workstation that I have to provide my own support. I might as well bypass the OEM manufacturer entirely.
I finally watched the video kinda cool, thanks for the link!
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edit--now that you got me youtubing which I don't generally do I just watched a video about the new z840 which support 2TB of RAM..it just makes me smile
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Def! Also, I had some questions for you in post #28 that you never replied to, still sort of curious about them.
If someone was going for a Windows/Linux workstation, I wonder which would be the better choice between Dell and HP, and why.